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http://mobile2.wsj.com/device/artic...001424052702304510704575562643804015252.html?

As posted in the WSJ online

By PHILIP BREDESEN

One of the principles of game theory is that you should view the game through your opponent's eyes, not just your own.
This past spring, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (President Obama's health reform) created a system of extensive federal subsidies for the purchase of health insurance through new organizations called "exchanges." The details of these subsidies were painstakingly worked out by members of my own political party to reflect their values: They decided who was to benefit from the subsidies and what was to be purchased with them. They paid a lot of attention to their own strategies, but what I believe they failed to consider properly were the possible strategies of others.
Our federal deficit is already at unsustainable levels, and most Americans understand that we can ill afford another entitlement program that adds substantially to it. But our recent health reform has created a situation where there are strong economic incentives for employers to drop health coverage altogether. The consequence will be to drive many more people than projected—and with them, much greater cost—into the reform's federally subsidized system. This will happen because the subsidies that become available to people purchasing insurance through exchanges are extraordinarily attractive.
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In 2014, when these exchanges come into operation, a typical family of four with an annual income of $90,000 and a 45-year-old policy holder qualifies for a federal subsidy of 40% of their health-insurance cost. For that same family with an income of $50,000 (close to the median family income in America), the subsidy is 76% of the cost.
One implication of the magnitude of these subsidies seems clear: For a person starting a business in 2014, it will be logical and responsible simply to plan from the outset never to offer health benefits. Employees, thanks to the exchanges, can easily purchase excellent, fairly priced insurance, without pre-existing condition limitations, through the exchanges. As it grows, the business can avoid a great deal of cost because the federal government will now pay much of what the business would have incurred for its share of health insurance. The small business tax credits included in health reform are limited and short-term, and the eventual penalty for not providing coverage, of $2,000 per employee, is still far less than the cost of insurance it replaces.
For an entrepreneur wanting a lean, employee-oriented company, it's a natural position to take: "We don't provide company housing, we don't provide company cars, we don't provide company insurance. Our approach is to put your compensation in your paycheck and let you decide how to spend it."
But while health reform may alter the landscape for small business in unexpected ways, it also opens the door to what is a potentially far larger effect on the Treasury.
The authors of health reform primarily targeted the uninsured and those now buying expensive individual policies. But there's a very large third group that can also enter and that may have been grossly underestimated: the 170 million Americans who currently have employer-sponsored group insurance. Because of the magnitude of the new subsidies created by Congress, the economics become compelling for many employers to simply drop coverage and help their employees obtain replacement coverage through an exchange.
Let's do a thought experiment. We'll use my own state of Tennessee and our state employees for our data. The year is 2014 and the Affordable Care Act is now in full operation. We're a large employer, with about 40,000 direct employees who participate in our health plan. In our thought experiment, let's exit the health-benefits business this year and help our employees use an exchange to purchase their own.
First of all, we need to keep our employees financially whole. With our current plan, they contribute 20% of the total cost of their health insurance, and that contribution in 2014 will total about $86 million. If all these employees now buy their insurance through an exchange, that personal share will increase by another $38 million. We'll adjust our employees' compensation in some rough fashion so that no employee is paying more for insurance as a result of our action. Taking into account the new taxes that would be incurred, the change in employee eligibility for subsidies, and allowing for inefficiency in how we distribute this new compensation, we'll triple our budget for this to $114 million.

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Now that we've protected our employees, we'll also have to pay a federal penalty of $2,000 for each employee because we no longer offer health insurance; that's another $86 million. The total state cost is now about $200 million.
But if we keep our existing insurance plan, our cost will be $346 million. We can reduce our annual costs by over $146 million using the legislated mechanics of health reform to transfer them to the federal government.
That's just for our core employees. We also have 30,000 retirees under the age of 65, 128,000 employees in our local school systems, and 110,000 employees in local government, all of which presents strategies even more economically attractive than the thought experiment we just performed. Local governments will find eliminating all coverage particularly attractive, as many of them are small and will thus incur minor or no penalties; many have health plans that will not meet the minimum benefit threshold, and so they'll see a substantial and unavoidable increase in cost if they continue providing benefits under the new federal rules.

Our thought experiment shows how the economics of dropping existing coverage is about to become very attractive to many employers, both public and private. By 2014, there will be a mini-industry of consultants knocking on employers' doors to explain the new opportunity. And in the years after 2014, the economics just keep getting better.
The consequence of these generous subsidies will be that America's health reform may well drive many more people than projected out of employer-sponsored insurance and into the heavily subsidized federal system. Perhaps this is a miscalculation by the Congress, perhaps not. One principle of game theory is to think like your opponent; another is that there's always a larger game.
Mr. Bredesen, a Democrat, is the governor of Tennessee and the author of "Fresh Medicine: How to Fix Reform and Build a Sustainable Health Care System," just out by Atlantic Monthly Press.

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That's a very compelling arguement! It really makes you think what the heck is going to happen if this Obamacare doesn't get overturned by the new congress.
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You know what, I actually agree with much that is stated in this article.... BUT..... I think the answer is to do away with all consultants, subsidies and middle men in health care.

Single payer is the only real answer. No more death panels... err... insurance companies, just doctors treating patients.:thumbsup:
 
Is there any thing the government does well beside screw the public and Pi$$ away money? I think not

The only people that should get health care are the ones that don't have it now and they should have a $50 co pay per visit.

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I have heard this argument before.

It holds alot of merit.

Of course. . .what stops a buisness from dropping health care coverage *RIGHT NOW*?
 
I have heard this argument before.

It holds alot of merit.

Of course. . .what stops a buisness from dropping health care coverage *RIGHT NOW*?

Guilt. I think that is about it. Obamacare won't hurt the bottom line of many companies. But it won't help their employees. When you give people free healthcare with out any responsibility (copay) they will abuse it. You will see people show up at the Dr's office with every runny nose and skinned knee. We will be in for one heck of a traffic jam. I hope you like waiting 24 months for your hip replacement... Or waiting 6 months to see a specialist. We have no idea what we are in store for. The Lefties are in love with the single payer idea, but when it actually happens Americans are going to go BESERK!

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Guilt. I think that is about it.

I must agree with that one.

The $2000 "fine" is a bit of a joke if the actual intent is to discourage companies from abandoning health plans that average $7000 per employee.

As stated in the article, I think it will take a while for the "first" company to ditch healthcare; then there will be a huge race for "second".

Remember: The current fine for dropping employee healthcare is -zero-.

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I think Healthcare is a HUGE can of worms.

The whole "pre existing condition" thing is a serious issue in my mind. Solving this leads to many of the issues that are distasteful.
 
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You know what, I actually agree with much that is stated in this article.... BUT..... I think the answer is to do away with all consultants, subsidies and middle men in health care.

Single payer is the only real answer. No more death panels... err... insurance companies, just doctors treating patients.:thumbsup:

Pack Man you are missing a very important point in all of this. First order I might agree with you but after that no. Who will end up paying for all of these insurance subsidies that are implicit in the exhange concept? You guess it - both of us although in my case, I will be on Medicare so maybe just you. Don't kid yourself, the subsidies required will be far greater than any insurance premium savings and that is the rub. With the two boats and a house that are paid for, you my friend have wealth and your Messiah Obama wants to spread some of it to others that don't. So be very careful what you ask for.:smt009
 
I don't get why people think if they get something from the Gov. it is free! We are all paying for the free stuff of course unless you work for Obama then you can run the IRS and not pay your taxes that is the Chicago way do what I say and not what I do
 
I don't get why people think if they get something from the Gov. it is free! We are all paying for the free stuff of course unless you work for Obama then you can run the IRS and not pay your taxes that is the Chicago way do what I say and not what I do

The reason people think it's free is they are not the ones who are working and paying for it. We're not ALL paying for it. It's like any welfare program. If you are employed you are paying for it. If you are unemployed and on welfare (of any kind) it's free.
 
The reason people think it's free is they are not the ones who are working and paying for it. We're not ALL paying for it. It's like any welfare program. If you are employed you are paying for it. If you are unemployed and on welfare (of any kind) it's free.


OOp's sorry I forgot about Obamas base
 

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