I’m shopping for a 280DA with twin 4.3L / Alpha’s + gen

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Presentation, May 25, 2007.

  1. Presentation

    Presentation Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor

    Oct 3, 2006
    Wisconsin - Winnebago Pool chain of lakes
    280 Sundancer, Westerbeke MPV generator
    twin 5.0's w/BIII drives
    Good News / Bad News / Good News

    The Good news is we sold our boat! I think soon we will get a new forum member named Greg. I hope his family as has much fun and creates as many fond memories as we did.

    The Bad news is I am now no longer a Sea Ray boat owner. Actually, with a 3 person rubber inflatable dingy not withstanding, we are not boat owners.

    The Good news is I can now shop in earnest knowing I have no excuse to not buy when the right boat comes along.



    Seeking

    2001-2003 Sea Ray Sundancer (prefer 2002 as a balance between upfront cost and condition) Newer then this will simply get too expensive for us.



    Must:
    Twin 4.3L w/Alpha’s – no other engine / drive combination then this


    Want but can add:
    - Generator I am hoping that it has this already. Expensive to add.
    - Air w/reverse cycle heat I am hoping that it has this already. Expensive to add.
    - Windlass
    - Full camper enclosure
    - Remote spotlight
    - Stove Alcohol / electric combination
    - Steel tri-axel trailer
     
  2. SearayPaul

    SearayPaul Member

    875
    Oct 11, 2006
    Simpsonville, South Carolina
    34 Downeaster
    Cummins 5.9 480hp
    Congratulations on the sale of your boat. Now that you know your budget the fun begins. Good luck with your boat search.
     
  3. Hampton

    Hampton Air Defense Dept TECHNICAL Contributor

    Nov 26, 2006
    Panama City, Fl
    2008 44 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins QSC-500's
    Straight Drives
    I commend you on knowing what you want. I also commend you on buying it a couple of years old. Hopefully, there will be plenty of boats for you to choose from. For used boats, I personally believe it's a buyer's market.

    Once you find one that suits your needs, realize that it's not the only one out there. You have to be willing to walk away before you can buy it for the right price. Good luck, take your time, and you will be quite pleased with the overall experience.

    We spent about 6 months leading up to our purchase. But, when it came to be, we did it even though we had not yet sold our old one.
     
  4. Turtlesboat

    Turtlesboat Minister of Media TECHNICAL Contributor

    Feb 4, 2007
    New York City
    1996 450DA, TNT, Caribe dink w/15hp OB.
    3126 427HP TD transmissions
    I wanted MPI's on my 280 and they seemed to become standard around late 2002, mostly 2003. more horses for same juice. I have everything you want besides gen and trailer. Haven't used the remote spot yet so can't comment on that. It was hot yesterday and AC in the cabin was nice, I'm going to be missing a gen on those hot summer nights on the hook, but it's pricey to add after the fact. I'm considering an inverter and a bank of batteries to run the ac as opposed to adding a gen. we'll see how expesive that prices out.
     
  5. KevinReston

    KevinReston New Member

    54
    Jan 30, 2007
    Occoquan, VA
    I have the 2004 version of what your looking for and purchased it this season. The generator/lawnmower is a great option as Turtle points out but is awfully noisey. I think the 280da is a great boat and is a very popular part of the SR lineup from what I can tell.

    TT I suspect the battery bank your putting in for AC would be pretty quiet which would be nice.

    Good luck with your search.
     
  6. Presentation

    Presentation Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor

    Oct 3, 2006
    Wisconsin - Winnebago Pool chain of lakes
    280 Sundancer, Westerbeke MPV generator
    twin 5.0's w/BIII drives
    Turtle – my backup plan to an installed generator is a Honda 2000i portable + one wired and one battery CO2 detector in the cabin.

    Some advantages to this include having power out of the water – when the boat is in storage. This would allow me to do a mid-winter battery charge or two. Also it would help having power to do my spring waxing with a power rotary tool. Plus I could bring it home as a backup power supply + camping, etc. Simple (non) winterizing. Oh, and less cost.

    Minuses include convenience loss and taking up storage, likely under the cockpit sink.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’d prefer a generator and would pay about $4,000 more given two identical boats, one with and one with out.

    So far I am finding in this part of the country the dealers did not sell the boats of this size with a generator. Florida, sure. But the cost of getting one hauled up, expense of going to those lengths is simply cost prohibitive.

    I’m trying to stick to about a 500 mile radius, $65k with trailer and no gen or $70K with trailer + gen.
     
  7. BrentJones

    BrentJones Member

    405
    Oct 4, 2006
    Fenton/Lake Ozark, MO
    2005 240 Sundeck
    6.2L
    I've kept my eye open for that same range 280 for the last 6 months or so. They, atleast in my area, seem very hard to come across. I think the problem you may come across, considering the area you live, is one with a generator. You may have to buy out of your market.
     
  8. RiverRat

    RiverRat New Member

    Apr 1, 2007
    Creve Coeur, MO
    03 280 Sundancer
    Kohler 5 KW Gen.
    95 13' Boston Whaler Dauntless
    Twin 4.3 MPI
    Alpha 1 Gen 2
    Brent & Presentation... I've been looking for the same thing too. And guess what, my salesman called me yesterday and told me that they just took one in on trade. 280 with gen and vacuflush. It's an 04 and it's at the lake store. So if you guys are interested in something like this have at it. I think I'm gonna pass on it. Timings not right for me. I don't know if it has the 4.3's though.
     
  9. BrentJones

    BrentJones Member

    405
    Oct 4, 2006
    Fenton/Lake Ozark, MO
    2005 240 Sundeck
    6.2L
    I wonder if it is listed online yet. I had our sales guy keeping his eye out for a 280 also, I guess he's not doing that great of a job. I'm not sure if the time is right for us either. Now, if I sell about 8 homes in the next couple of months, the timing will feel great!
     
  10. BrentJones

    BrentJones Member

    405
    Oct 4, 2006
    Fenton/Lake Ozark, MO
    2005 240 Sundeck
    6.2L
    Ok, I spoke too soon. I just got an e-mail from the sales guy about the 280. It is a single w/ a genny. Will be listed for about 85k.
     
  11. jg300da

    jg300da New Member

    Oct 9, 2006
    None
    Your
    Business
    We've been through this before. I think that 65-70K range is about 10K short of reality.
     
  12. thomas

    thomas New Member

    296
    Oct 4, 2006
    Green Bay WI
    370 Express
    Twin 454's
    Doug/Lisa
    If you need any help with pricing and or book values of 280 dancers that have sold in the last year, please advise. I have helped several members in the past and would be happy to help a fellow cheese head.
     
  13. Presentation

    Presentation Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor

    Oct 3, 2006
    Wisconsin - Winnebago Pool chain of lakes
    280 Sundancer, Westerbeke MPV generator
    twin 5.0's w/BIII drives
  14. Presentation

    Presentation Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor

    Oct 3, 2006
    Wisconsin - Winnebago Pool chain of lakes
    280 Sundancer, Westerbeke MPV generator
    twin 5.0's w/BIII drives
    Hi Tom,

    Sure, thank you!

    My email is presentation_rentals at yahoo dot com or phone is 920-841-0835.
     
  15. thomas

    thomas New Member

    296
    Oct 4, 2006
    Green Bay WI
    370 Express
    Twin 454's
    according to soldboats.com, and what had sold in the last year, it looks like a pretty good value. In the past I have called searay customer service with the hull numbers, and they can tell you where the boat originated from.
     
  16. Nehalennia II

    Nehalennia II New Member

    Oct 6, 2006
    Marysville, WA
    sold '99 230OV
    5.7 EFI w/Alpha one
    What's a LOTO>?
     
  17. jg300da

    jg300da New Member

    Oct 9, 2006
    None
    Your
    Business
    Lake of the Ozarks
     
  18. Nehalennia II

    Nehalennia II New Member

    Oct 6, 2006
    Marysville, WA
    sold '99 230OV
    5.7 EFI w/Alpha one
    ok thanks
     
  19. Stray Cat

    Stray Cat Active Member TECHNICAL Contributor

    Oct 4, 2006
    Pool 10 Guttenberg, IA
    2006 300DA Sundancer
    350 Mags / Bravo III
    A lot of dealers along the upper Mississippi equipped their 280's with gennys. http://www.scuttlebutt.com/index.cfm
    is a good source for locating U.M. dealers and boat listings.

    Good Luck!
     

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