How do you use your canvas?

Discussion in 'Great Lakes' started by yobub, Feb 28, 2019.

  1. Korkie

    Korkie Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    377
    Feb 2, 2016
    Leonardtown, MD Potomac River / Chesapeake Bay
    340 Sundancer 2006, Garmin 7612, xHD Radome
    Merc 496 Mags, Bravo III Drives
    Everything off except the bimini's. Moored under cover in boathouse. Front window and sides up at night to keep dew off cockpit when out overnight.
     
  2. Phasma

    Phasma Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    303
    Sep 17, 2016
    West Michigan
    2003 360 Sundancer
    Mercruiser 8.1s Horizon
    Bimini always on. I take the center windshield section out. Most of the summer I remove rear Eisenglass glass every morning and replace every night. Lake Michigan is cold for 8-10 months of the year.
     
  3. Great Lakes

    Great Lakes Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    452
    Oct 11, 2016
    Lake St. Clair - Michigan (MacRay Harbor)
    2005 390 Sundancer
    GHS Platform
    Bow/Stern Thrusters
    8.1
    All canvas off and front windows left in. On really hot days I’ll either remove the center window and/or crack the vent and hardtop window.

    We’re getting closer boys!
     
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  4. Quint4

    Quint4 Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor SILVER Sponsor

    Oct 6, 2006
    S.W. Ohio
    330 Sport Bridge
    5.7 MPI 350 Merc Bluewaters
    I put "Smile" zippers in all my glass so its less than 5 minutes to roll it all up. Very easy to zip back down Screen Shot 2014-03-16 at 9.45.54 PM.png also.
     
  5. Creekwood

    Creekwood Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 26, 2009
    Oakville and Georgian Bay, Ontario
    '97 330 Sundancer, Raymarine C80 suite with radar, Mercury 310 Hypalon w/8hp Yammie 2stk
    2X 454 carbs w/ vDrives
    This is what I do too. But if it is really, really hot, its nice to take all the isinglass out, especially if we are at anchor and its light breeze. (its quieter at speed too to have all the glass out, even if it is a bit windier). But at night it all goes back in for bug/dew control. Its often easier to just leave the front on.

    I always leave the canvas bimini and visor up. Its a bit of shade, even on our 330.
     
  6. LUnaCY

    LUnaCY Active Member

    157
    Aug 28, 2018
    Afton, MN
    310 Sundancer 2002. Mercruiser 5.0 MPI Bravo III
    Mercruiser 5.0 MPI Bravo III
    Minneapolis here. If its under 50 degrees the canvas with camper goes on. Any other time i use a cockpit cover when in the slip and use the dial biminis only for sun shade (no canvas front or sides when on onboard regardless of overnights.

    Unless it rains, then front and sides go up.

    The dash and instruments can get quite wet from dew so we drape a towel over them at night.
     
  7. WV 320 Dancer

    WV 320 Dancer Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    592
    Oct 28, 2018
    2003 Sea Ray Sundancer 320
    Twin 350 MAG - V Drive
    Our glass only goes up if a thunderstorm is incoming or if we are out of the slip and spending the night at the levee. We like the breeze.
     
  8. techmitch

    techmitch Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    May 1, 2008
    Chesapeake Bay, Middle River/Frog Mortar Creek MD.
    1999 270 DA
    Twin 4.3s W/Alpa I Gen II's
    I hope so since it looks like she's in forward gear.
     
  9. Todd320

    Todd320 Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    731
    Jul 21, 2016
    St. Petersburg, FL
    2007 Sea Ray 320DA
    Twin V-drive 5.7L 350 Horizon
    Don’t have any! I had to drive back in a bad thunderstorm once in 2.5 years, I just try not to do that again!
    We have debated getting more shade for the rear of the cockpit, but never follow through. In the winter, when it’s “cold” I put on a ski cap and/or a hoodie to keep warm, only have needed that a few times.
     
  10. midexp

    midexp Active Member

    222
    Oct 5, 2016
    Harrison Township, Michigan Lake St.Clair
    1999 40' Sundancer
    454 merc
    I just had my 3 front windows redone in policarb, so I will most likely just flip up the middle piece (snaps to the arch) and leave the other 2 up. The PO had really nice custom cloth containers for all 3 pieces, so like EZ I may remove and place in them on really hot days (or days I just want the breeze). But after having my 37 DA for 12 years (which I loved) and couldn't stand up at the helm, it's really nice with my 40 to stand up and feel the breeze. And makes the need even greater to have nice clear front panels.

    As far as the front panels with the u-shape zippers, I believe that would annoy the crap out of me. But to each his own.
     
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  11. dpvandy01

    dpvandy01 Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Sep 6, 2007
    Cincinnati, Ohio/Ohio River
    2003 320 Sundancer
    &
    2012 185 Sport
    &
    2014 Sea Fox 256 Commander
    Twin 6.2L Close Cooled V-Drives & 3.0L Alpha 1, 300 Yamaha OB
    I leave mine in on my 320 but when I had new ones made I had them make them with the "Horseshoe" of "smiley" zippers. that way I can open them but I don't have to go through the often arduous task of removing them
     
  12. Great Lakes

    Great Lakes Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    452
    Oct 11, 2016
    Lake St. Clair - Michigan (MacRay Harbor)
    2005 390 Sundancer
    GHS Platform
    Bow/Stern Thrusters
    8.1
    Me too! It would irk my OCD as well
     
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  13. Jimmy Buoy

    Jimmy Buoy Well-Known Member

    Dec 3, 2008
    Sarnia, Ontario, Canada
    340 Amberjack
    twin 8.1S 370 Hp + 4.5 Westerbeke Genset
    I use the boat to experience all the outdoors have to offer, so all but the Bimini top (for shade) get removed weather permitting. If we're travelling through rain or cold weather, I'll go with all the canvas up and open the front windshield vent for positive air flow.
     
  14. bbwhitejr

    bbwhitejr Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Apr 14, 2013
    Lake Lanier GA
    2007 44DB
    Cummins QSC 8.3s
    The bridge enclosure was removed to transport our boat. It took me about 1/2 day to install it. The past two summers we have rolled up the four smileys. I just had upholstery covers made for all of the bridge upholstery. As soon as the pollen season is over here, plan is to remove the enclosure and leave it off until fall. We cannot wait. It is really nice to have it in the winter as we boat year round. The cockpit enclosure goes on in winter and will come off when the bridge enclosure comes off.

    Bennett
     
  15. yobub

    yobub Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor GOLD Sponsor

    196
    Jul 29, 2016
    Chicago
    1998 400 Sundancer
    Cat 3116's
    Thanks for all of the feedback - it looks like about half of you take the canvas down like we do, the other half leaves it all up - interesting. Glad to know we aren't alone.

    Next question: We are deciding whether to stick with the traditional tan canvas or whether to go with black. I think the black has a more updated look but we are concerned with the heat build up. Our canvas fabricator said that the heat is more a factor of the sun coming through the windows than the color of the top, but both obviously play a factor. Again, we are a Lake Michigan boat so we don't have the same type of sun that those of you down south get to deal with.

    Do any of you have black canvas, and if so, are you happy with it? Would you do it again?
     
  16. Quint4

    Quint4 Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor SILVER Sponsor

    Oct 6, 2006
    S.W. Ohio
    330 Sport Bridge
    5.7 MPI 350 Merc Bluewaters
    Black always looks good and ages well.
     
  17. Brent Nutting

    Brent Nutting Active Member

    194
    Mar 24, 2016
    Lk Saint Clair, Fair Haven, MI
    2002 480 Sedan Bridge
    10' Aventus RIB w/ 9.9 Merc
    Cat 3196
    We have black colored canvas and don't have any issues with the heat building up.
     
  18. Brent Nutting

    Brent Nutting Active Member

    194
    Mar 24, 2016
    Lk Saint Clair, Fair Haven, MI
    2002 480 Sedan Bridge
    10' Aventus RIB w/ 9.9 Merc
    Cat 3196
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  19. Steve S

    Steve S Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    798
    Jun 5, 2007
    Northern IL.
    2000 400 Sedan Bridge with twin CAT 3116's

    2000 340 Sundancer - SOLD!
    210 Monaco 1987 - SOLD!
    Twin Caterpillar 3116's 350 HP straight drives
    My 340 had dark blue canvas and was like an oven unless i opened her up. But my sides and rear had screens so i would open them up and the center window for a breeze. i rarely take the canvas down now on my 400 DB.
     
  20. midexp

    midexp Active Member

    222
    Oct 5, 2016
    Harrison Township, Michigan Lake St.Clair
    1999 40' Sundancer
    454 merc
    Great question about the black canvas. I agree the black looks the nicest. So thinking this may be the color I select next time I need canvas, I visited a fellow boater on a warn day who had black canvas and it, to me anyway, seems much hotter than my tan canvas. I will probably stick with the tan as having a camper top I spend a lot of time in the cockpit (as opposed to sitting outside the well).

    Brent, your hard top is white, so this isn't a far comparison.

    My only recommendation is to spend the money and get policarb on your front 3 panels.
     

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