GVWR question

[dpvandy01]

I am borrowing a 1999 F350 Deisel (4x4)from a friend for my trip to Norris Lake. The GVWR is 9900lbs. Does that mean it's only able to tow 9900? I'm going through the permitting process and I'm just a bit confused. There is no way this could be the towing max for this vehicle. Anyone got any insight?

 

[NateRW21]

Gross Vehicle Weight Rating is the maximum weight as read by both the front and rear axles together. What this means is it is the max weight the vehicle, any cargo inside the vehicle, passengers, fuel... etc etc. This ALSO includes the tongue weight of the trailer.

You'd need to have a look at the manual to see specifics on tow capacity. But, I did find this: http://www.swcp.com/pcaskey/ford-towing.html (keep in mind that is for crew cab)

Now, GCWR is the total weight of the truck and trailer, fully loaded as you'd drive it on the road way.

 

[nauticaldog]

The GVWR is the weight of the truck itself. Read this real quick: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GVWR, better yet, read the manual for the truck. My 150 has a GVWR of 8300# and a combined weight rate(truck and trailer) of 16000#.
Chris

 

[NateRW21]

not the truck itself. The truck's max weight loaded.

The weight of the the truck itself is the curb weight. (I assume this is what you were trying to say anyway; it just sounds like you were saying GVWR is the weight of the unloaded vehicle)

 

[nauticaldog]

I'm not much of a typist so I keep things short, that link explains it pretty well, if not a bit confused. Factory manual explains it the best.

 

[NateRW21]

yeah no problem... I did check out that link, it does a very good job of explaining it! I like wiki

 

[everthing's irie]

I am borrowing a 1999 F350 Deisel (4x4)from a friend for my trip to Norris Lake. The GVWR is 9900lbs. Does that mean it's only able to tow 9900? I'm going through the permitting process and I'm just a bit confused. There is no way this could be the towing max for this vehicle. Anyone got any insight?

I'm using a 2006 F350 4x4 to tow our 290DA. The max tow weight using the tow hitch is 12,500lbs. I calculated the weight including trailer, boat 1/4 tank of fuel in the boat, no water or waste and all the stuff we cary on the boat to be approx. 11,500lbs.

 

[bobnlee2007]

I just recently weighed my 1991 GMC Suburban R2500(2 wheel drive) with a
1977 SRV240WE. According to the sticker on the door post the Suburban is rated
as 8650lbs GVWR. The scales showed the truck with trailer&boat at 6250lbs.
Without the boat, just the trailer, the truck weight was 6050lbs.
So, I have about a 2600lb weight allowance to spend on gas, passengers, food,
and other goodies. The truck is rated for a 9600lb towing capacity.
So, you have the load bearing capacity of the truck called GVWR and the towing
capacity. My total weight with the boat and trailer was over 12,000lbs. 6 tons
going down the highway at 60mph...

 

[NateRW21]

BobnLee...

I assume that 6250 was the truck with tongue weight of the loaded trailer/boat? The way you typed it, it made it look like you were saying that's the combined weight of the truck, trailer and boat together. Which made me say "WHAT?!?!"... but I see down bear the bottom you mentioned total weight with boat and trailer as over 12,000lbs.

Anyhow, my only point to this is... you might want to check the GCWR for your truck (which is the truck and trailer together; but I think you already knew that)... I'd bet you don't have quite as much allowance as you think. Tacking that 2600lbs on-top of your 12,000 hits almost 15,000lbs, which may very well be over the GCWR.

Also, am I confused, or shouldn't the truck weight with tongue weight be higher? If you're truck with unloaded trailer is about 6000lbs, GCW of 12,000lbs, that means your boat/trailer is 6000lbs. Give the trailer 1000 of that (I'm sure that's a bit much)... tongue weight should be somewhere north of 500lbs. So the weight of the truck with the tongue weight of the boat and trailer should be somewhere north of 6550lbs right? With a 200lb tongue weight, you're only running with 4%. I'm not criticizing or anything... I'm just interested.

 

[Henry Boyd]

Guys,

The point everyone seems to be missing is that when working with these ratings is that all ratings must be below the respective maximum. For example, you are not ok if the gross weight of trailer, boat and truck is below the rated combination weight and one of the axles is overloaded.

When working with semi's, the practice is to look at each of the individual actual axle loadings compared to rated, then axle groups, then each vehicle, and then the combination vehicle.

Also keep in mind guys for those of you hauling longer boats and longer trailers you may reach a length where the distance between axles also has to be considered and axle ratings become based on the distance between each axle pairing.

 

[280 SeaRay]

I'm using a 2006 F350 4x4 to tow our 290DA. The max tow weight using the tow hitch is 12,500lbs. I calculated the weight including trailer, boat 1/4 tank of fuel in the boat, no water or waste and all the stuff we cary on the boat to be approx. 11,500lbs.

9,250 is the base weight of the 290DA

+Add on for each option on the boat (i.e. Spotlight, Engine/Drive upgrade from base, genset, etc, etc) as the weight given on SR site does not include optional items. SR customer service can provide you with the weight of the options.

+186lbs for your 1/4 tank of fuel

+ weight of trailer

I would be very surprised if you were anywhere close to 11,500. You may want to hit the scale and be sure. Our 280DA on the trailer is just under 14K.