Guns on your boat

I have a better idea. Do what our politicians do. Let Australia open its borders to whoever wants to go there from any country, no matter their motives, religion, culture, or education. Take in hundreds of thousands of those people (so, your population is as diverse as the US). Put them up for free in isolated neighborhoods in your major cities. Give them free food, money for drugs, free cell phones, free health care, free utility bills, and don't forget to subsidize the construction of their mosques. Just enough money for them to barely get by in their slums. Then lower or eliminate the penalties for petty crime and assaults. Pass laws to allow public urination. Let them preach hatred and violence on the streets. Neuter your police force so that these people become emboldened. Allow frivolous law suits to provide them settlement money. Hell, let them sue the police individually to ruin their families. Then let lots of heroin, Ice, and cocaine into your country. The only thing the "migrants" have to do is reelect the leaders that allow all this. Yes, allow them to vote. (Forget that you are the subject of a Monarchy for a minute). Then be told that you are the problem because you are racist and privileged. Then let's see what your position is. That's what our tyrannical government has given us so far. Hopefully, this allows you to understand the importance of the Second Amendment.

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Thanks for the question. Here's how it is in the United states:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine

Thanks much, interesting. Do i read correct that if somenody enters unlawfully your home and catches a bullet you can basicly expect not to be sued and it will not be add to your criminal record ?

Regarding your migrants - that is exactly what happens in germany now , they call it refugees from the syrian war.
 
I live in Melbourne, Australia and have never seen a gun other than on TV.
When we go boating I lock my car doors on the way to the marina.
Funnily enough I don't carry any "ammo"
The only thing I'm "packin" is ice, beer, bait, and sandwiches.
I'm not judging, but holy **** that whole 2nd amendment thing is out of control.

From what I'm reading perhaps we do live in utopia, however unfortunately you guys seem to be past the point of no return.

i don't mean any disrespect but we live in different places with different cultures.


I've never "needed" it but I'd rather have than have-not. On this highway, sections of it get as close as 250 meters from the Mexico border. There's crime in that country that flows over to our country. It could be said the same thing about us from their side I suppose, not getting into that debate here....

If I'm on the road, through the mountain section where there is no cell phone coverage and someone wants to plan to harm, rob or attack any vehicles, then you're a sitting duck. Force damage to all 4 tires and you're screwed with no way to call for help.

One night, around 9:30 PM, we entered the mountain section and came across an accident. Lady had fallen asleep, hit a guard rail, spun the car to block the 2 lanes of traffic. Single car accident, legs pinned inside, had to be cut out. We arrived about 5 minutes after it happened. It was between 2 mountains, no cell phones worked. Someone had to hike up the boulder covered mountain, more than 100-150 meters to get a signal to call for help. It took over 35 minutes for the border patrol to arrive, and they are not even the right agency to handle it. At about the 45 minute mark, the highway patrol arrived and at the 60 minute mark, fire rescue arrived.

My story above isn't to show the need for a firearm in that situation, it's to show how long it took for help to arrive in certain areas. Crime isn't in every square inch of our country, but there are people in this country and world who know no other way. People hurt other people, weapons don't do it on their own. I pray that it never happens to me and that we live our lives free of being a victim in any dangerous crime, but if that day ever comes, I'll at least have a chance to protect my family and myself as a last option. I don't live in any type of fear, I'm just prepared. Trust me, I don't want to harm another person, but will if I'm forced to as a last option.
 
Thanks much, interesting. Do i read correct that if somenody enters unlawfully your home and catches a bullet you can basicly expect not to be sued and it will not be add to your criminal record ?

Correct. I'm in Florida and we take it a bit further. It's common refered to as the "stand your ground law." The law is under Florida state statute section 776.

"A person who is attacked in his or her dwelling, residence, or vehicle has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and use or threaten to use force, including deadly force[...]"

"A person is justified in using or threatening to use deadly force if he or she reasonably believes that using or threatening to use such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony. A person who uses or threatens to use deadly force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground if the person using or threatening to use the deadly force is not engaged in a criminal activity and is in a place where he or she has a right to be."

"“Forcible felony” means treason; murder; manslaughter; sexual battery; carjacking; home-invasion robbery; robbery; burglary; arson; kidnapping; aggravated assault; aggravated battery; aggravated stalking; aircraft piracy; unlawful throwing, placing, or discharging of a destructive device or bomb; and any other felony which involves the use or threat of physical force or violence against any individual."
 
Guys, I know I'm late to this thread, though I tried to read about three pages worth of posts to get an understanding. I see we went from questions about carrying on a vessel to gun control.

I can't say I'm surprised as it always seems to go down that path...

I, for one, thinks it's a problem and seven pages worth of posts just confirms it....I think it's crazy that I law-abiding US citizen has to be concerned about individual state laws concerning having a gun on your own vessel. I would like to see a system in place that it is within the law to have a gun on any vessel you own traveling through any waters of any states....

My personal interpretation of the Second Amendment is your right to bear arms shall not be infringed... I think it's very much infringed if I have to transport it in a way that is is unusable or illegal to transport.

Be safe and responsible out there...and hope it never becomes an issue.
 
How's that working out for you all? We have large hub in EDDK, I was saddened to see all that activity going on in places that I used to frequent on layovers.

not so good. people are angry we germans have to pay this all with taxes but tend to not speak much about it , when you are talking about EDDK or cologne in the new year events ... we are so dissapointed about our police which has completely failed. many say "try this in the centre of chicago or moscow and you will receive some hard punches with a baton by police to protect your civilians" . if its true when such an event would happen in chicago or moscow, i do not know.

is it common in usa what happened in cologne at new year ?
 
I am Canadian, live and boat in the PNW, mom was born in Sydney Australia. I can happily say that I don't carry nor do I feel the need to carry a gun on my boat. My hunting guns are left at home locked up where they belong, IMO. I can understand that many may feel more comfortable carrying a firearm on their vessel, especially our brothers to the south, but personally don't feel the need. Boating for me is meant to be serene and peaceful and that is how I plan to keep it. Fully respect the believes our American friends have in their 2nd amendment and good on them. Do what you feel you need to do, just please don't try bringing them north with you, you generally won't need them around here. I also think that you shouldn't have to feel the need to defend your beliefs and that everyone should be open to others opinions.


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I was relating this post to a friend who owns a custom 54 aOcean Super Sport. He fishes far offshore and also takes the boat to the Bahamas and the Virgin Islands. He told me that he and aeveryone he knows with similar boats has arms on their boats. He related an incident that happend offshore that was more or less an attempted act of piracy that would have been piracy had he not been armed. He pointed out that boaters are looked upon as wealthy, high value targets, meaning we are viewed as easy marks and likely to have something of value to be taken. Held further noted a large sport fisherman boat at a show had an option of a headboad that concealed a Men in Black style arsenal, so there is an awareness among that set at least for a need for preparedness. More grist for this mill.
 
Also late to the thread. Let me add that I asked our local river patrol about guns on a boat a few years ago. Those involved have moved on. To make a long story short, I was talking to two officers and asked what laws applied in our case, KY or IN, or was there anything Federal I needed to know? Was the boat treated like a house while at anchor or at the dock? How about underway? After long blank stares, all I got was, "Well just tell us about them when we first board." It's easier for them to let the judge figure it out.
 
I asked the coast guard about this. They said as long as you have the proper paper work it would be ok
 
not so good. people are angry we germans have to pay this all with taxes but tend to not speak much about it , when you are talking about EDDK or cologne in the new year events ... we are so dissapointed about our police which has completely failed. many say "try this in the centre of chicago or moscow and you will receive some hard punches with a baton by police to protect your civilians" . if its true when such an event would happen in chicago or moscow, i do not know.

is it common in usa what happened in cologne at new year ?
This is one of the reasons why I love America. We are not dependent on the protection of the government. We can speak about it very loudly and not be afraid of the consequences of doing so.
 
I live in Melbourne, Australia and have never seen a gun other than on TV.
When we go boating I lock my car doors on the way to the marina.
Funnily enough I don't carry any "ammo"
The only thing I'm "packin" is ice, beer, bait, and sandwiches.
I'm not judging, but holy **** that whole 2nd amendment thing is out of control.

From what I'm reading perhaps we do live in utopia, however unfortunately you guys seem to be past the point of no return.

i don't mean any disrespect but we live in different places with different cultures.

I get it... I also read earlier how you love and support abortion, drag queens in the women's bathroom and lesbians getting married.

Yep. Some twisted defenseless Godless "utopia" alright.
 
I get it... I also read earlier how you love and support abortion, drag queens in the women's bathroom and lesbians getting married.

Yep. Some twisted defenseless Godless "utopia" alright.

And there it is. I can't believe it took this long to show your true colours

I support a woman's right to choose.
I support diversity and equality.
I stopped having imaginary friends when I was 9

You are a right wing, gun slingin bigot.
 
And there it is. I can't believe it took this long to show your true colours

I support a woman's right to choose.
I support diversity and equality.
I stopped having imaginary friends when I was 9

You are a right wing, gun slingin bigot.

Actually, I am a Freedom loving Conservative and as luck would have it for you - I defend your right to disagree with me (no matter how perverse it may be). The beauty and irony of Freedom and freedom of speech is that (as it it proven time and time again) whereas one would expect the "educated" left to support it - instead they rail against it. Further - the apparently hedonistic right continues to protect the ability for all people to express themselves.

Unlike the
 
Well when all is said and done, guns do not kill, people do.

Not long ago around Christmas time in many parts of town criminals were ringing doorbells, then poking guns in the persons face and robbing them. These were not being done in just the worst neighborhoods, but all over town.

So if one does not wish to own a gun, then by all means don't, but don't condemn those law abiding citizens who choose to own a gun.
 

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