Garmim next generation of PC charting program?

[ChuckW]

Wow, step out for a few days on a business trip and get too far behind to catch up. :smt024

Update: Well we must not be the only ones complaining about the problem. Talked with Garmin Tech Support about it. Yes they know they have a big problem. The tech I was talking with said they have had a bunch a calls about it. At this time there is no fix. Yes you can buy maps that don't work with the new units and use them on the PC. He hopes they are working on a new program or a way to use the maps from the new unit, but at this time nobody know (IF or WHEN) it will happen???

Chuck1, all correct, but not really new. They were preaching this same story last year when I spoke to them about it. I called in today to order an update for my built-in maps, which are not ready yet. Maybe another month. Talked with rep a lot about these issues. Confirmed what you heard, but it is the same they've been saying for over a year. Which either means we are real close to a solution or still years away and its lip service.

One point worth clarifying on this thread more explicitly, which I confirmed with Garmin today, is the map products and where they can be used. Nothing new, but felt it was needed here.

There are essentially 3 marine mapping products:

1. Bluechart
2. Bluechart G2
3. Bluechart G2 Vision

The PC software (Mapsource) only uses Bluechart. The 3000 series plotters (mine) use Bluechart G2 and the 4000 & 5000 series plotters use Bluechart G2 Vision. The PC Bluechart maps are usable on a 3000 series plotter. They are NOT usable on the 4000 and 5000 series units. Garmin is looking (supposedly) at how to get higher quality maps on your PC without the double map purchase penalty. All routes, way points and planning data done on the PC Bluechart maps is usable on all 3000, 4000, 5000 series units. The straight Bluechart maps are being discontinued on devices and pre-programmed chips, but they will continue to be available on the PC CD-ROM until a new solution is offered. :smt038

To overcome the double purchase penalty for maps I had offered up an alternative planning method using free maps on the PC with a non-Garmin PC product in an earlier post, then showed how you can move the data for routes and way points from that software through MapSource and onto a Garmin plotter.

Now, if I see this correctly the original intent of this thread was really poking in at the fact that in order to use an ALL GARMIN solution to PC planning for your Garmin plotter you have to buy a set of maps for the PC and if your device doesn't have built-ins another set for your device. This is true if you have a 4000 and 5000 series. Not true for those with a 3000 series.

So either buy a set of Garmin maps for your PC and use their Vision plotters, or use a non-Garmin PC product and convert your data as needed to load up in your Vision unit. Either works. Just how much money do you want to spend?:smt038

Yes Chuck1, I agree MapSource is a superior planning tool, so pick your poison. Free maps and non-MapSource planning tools or buy the maps and use MapSource. At least until Garmin gives us a new and improved model.:thumbsup:

 

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[ChuckW]

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Looks like a deamon. The user account was just banned by admins.

 

[chuck1]

Just read on the "The Hull Truth" that Garmins Bluechart software has been discontinued. Anybody else heard that?

 

[ChuckW]

Just read on the "The Hull Truth" that Garmins Bluechart software has been discontinued. Anybody else heard that?

Yes, Bluechart is discontinued on devices. Bluechart G2 and Bluechart G2 Vision are very much alive.

...The straight Bluechart maps are being discontinued on devices and pre-programmed chips, but they will continue to be available on the PC CD-ROM until a new solution is offered...

 

[chuck1]

The comment I heard was that they were going to stop selling the bluechart at the end of the year, period????
Lets hope they finally have something to replace it on the PC like (G2 or Vision)

 

[ChuckW]

The comment I heard was that they were going to stop selling the bluechart at the end of the year, period????
Lets hope they finally have something to replace it on the PC like (G2 or Vision)

They better... they've been promising it for ever. I think many people out their get confused by their naming of things. The fact that Bluechart, Bluechart G2 and Bluechart G2 Vision are not only different in terms of mapping details, they are different in terms of product capabilities is very confusing. Hopefully they'll come up with better language as well. But I'm sure we won't lose our ability to work on a PC and transfer back and forth with our plotters, that would be the end of Garmin in marine electronics and they know it.

 

[Weave]

If your PC has a card reader slot already built in can this be used to put the update directly on a regular SD card? Or does it have to Garmin proprietary?

 

[ChuckW]

If your PC has a card reader slot already built in can this be used to put the update directly on a regular SD card? Or does it have to Garmin proprietary?

If you Garmin takes a standard SD card you're all set. Mine takes a proprietary Garmin memory card (physically like nothing you've seen before) so I needed the Garmin USB Card Reader.