Fogging in the wood

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1998 Sundancer 450
2009 Sundancer 55
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Most of the boats in the 08 09 years with the dark cherry wood we have been looking at have the hazing, fogging in the finish. Anyone had any experience in stripping and refinishing the affected parts, Does it keep getting worse. A lot of the boats we have looked at are nice boats other than that but I would have to fix or it would drive my CRAZY!!
 
Are you confident the "fogging" is in the finish and not a covering that's starting to delaminate from the wood? In the 90's it was pretty common for a plastic sheet covering to start separating from the wood below. It did create a foggy like appearance...
 
My understanding from our sea ray dealer/broker is the wood still had moister in it when the polyurethane or what ever clear coating Sea ray used was applied.
 
I’ve always been under the impression that Sea Ray’s “wood” interiors were largely engineered products, plywood with a veneer of plastic laminate. Any fogging would be a failure within the laminate. Fogging is a common failure of plastic laminate.

Regardless, fogging does not happen on actual wood, like cherry, or walnut. Likewise on veneers made from wood.

As for comments that fogging is caused by moisture in wood prior to coating - pure hogwash (my diplomatic response). Basically, a statement made by someone who is simply guessing, or trying to not be the bearer of bad news. The failure mode for polyurethane applied over damp wood is peeling and bubbling.

 
If you're talking about the actual wood doors and not the laminate over lay - From discussions I have had, the finish has to be removed and then re cleared. I was told to expect around $1k per door. I'm living with it as I have also never seen one that has been "repaired" so I'm not willing to bet that it will actually work.
 
Thats about the number I was thinking on the cost. Thats really sad for a person to spend that kind of money for a boat and that happen to the wood. Sure does hurt the resale value.
 
My salon and dinette table have this issue. I haven't dived (or is it dove) into a fix yet.
 
What about just getting them vinyl wrapped? I've seen a number of various things done with that 3M DiNoc stuff and it's really nice. Would give you a chance to change the color/look, as well, if you wanted to. There was even a recent post on here about someone with an older 270 or 290 (I think) that did that - and they posted pictures.
 
My salon table is showing signs of this happening. To me is is a finish issue. I am going to start with sanding with 1000 grit take off some material and then 2500 and polish to see where I get. It is just like color sanding and buffing a car. If that fails I will sand it down to wood and re-clear it.
 
Cleaning the laminate with products that contain ammonia or chlorine will make the plastic hazy like they will do to vinyl windows. Windex for example is a no no.....
 
I think this is what you are writing about. I have only this one spot on my boat. It appears to be where the wrong cleaner was used and is adjacent to the power panel access so it is always in my face. Is there any hope of repair?
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