Face Shields..

[Woody]

Look at the number of cases. That’s all that matters. Yo

That is not true at all. The reason the death rate as % of cases was high is that in Canada the number of cases was mostly early and went rampant in old age homes. The % of deaths then were really high. Since then, total cases has dropped drastically so the much lower death rates in the past 2 months statistically cannot reduce the average. So it has nothing to do with quality of health care.

Is that a phenomena unique to Canada?

 

[MonacoMike]

How many “rich” Americans cross the border to get the off the charts Canadian healthcare?

 

[Creekwood]

How many “rich” Americans cross the border to get the off the charts Canadian healthcare?

Why do you keep morphing this into Canadian health care vs US? I am comparing cOVID containment differences. And all my posts about Canadian health care have been responding to people’s uniformed posted about what it is. Not saying it’s better or worse. It’s a different model. Focus on the issue which is the Canadian people ( not the health care system) have gotten COVID rates extremely low. The US has not. What is the difference? It’s you actions. Nothing more.

 

[Woody]

I like my odds over yours:View attachment 90268

That chart doesn't illustrate the odds...but OK here's some odds, if one person will die today in both Canada and the USA. The odds it'll be you are 1:38million, the odds it'll be me are 1:331million.

 

[ZZ13]

That chart doesn't illustrate the odds...but OK here's some odds, if one person will die today in both Canada and the USA. The odds it'll be you are 1:38million, the odds it'll be me are 1:331million.

He's still got better odds than you. US death rate in 2019 was 8.8 persons per 100,000. Thats an increase of 1.12% over the death rate the previous year. The Canadian death rate in 2019 was 7.7 persons per 100,000. That an increase from the previous year of .6%. So Canadians have better survival rate than US and the US death rate is increasing annually at twice the Canadian increase.

 

[Woody]

He's still got better odds than you. US death rate in 2019 was 8.8 persons per 100,000. Thats an increase of 1.12% over the death rate the previous year. The Canadian death rate in 2019 was 7.7 persons per 100,000. That an increase from the previous year of .6%. So Canadians have better survival rate than US and the US rate is increasing annually at twice the Canadian increase.

What you sayin'? I gotta move to Canada if I want to live?

 

[Creekwood]

That chart doesn't illustrate the odds...but OK here's some odds, if one person will die today in both Canada and the USA. The odds it'll be you are 1:38million, the odds it'll be me are 1:331million.

What you sayin'? I gotta move to Canada if I want to live?

No, you have to move to Canada if you want better odds of not getting COVID 19.

 

[Creekwood]

But, but, "...its free!..." What the snowflakes in the US dont realize is that there is no "free lunch".

I was speaking with my niece the other night and I asked her if most of the kids in her high school were Socialists. She said a lot were. I asked her if she knew or if her friends knew what being Socialist means? Of course she replied "yes". Sooo, ehehehehe, I asked her to explain it. Well after a dozen "...like, you know, well, like when you know..." I stopped her and explained this to her.

What if you have a 4.0 grade point average and I was your teacher. What if I came and told you and your other friends with a 4.0 grade point average that to be fair to everyone, so that we're all equal, not racists, and elitists, that I was going to deduct 2.0 points from each of their GPA's. Well I didn't even finish that statement before she jumped up in her seat and said "no way!".

I went on with the rest of the lesson. She is now a free marketist.

This is another example of a reason why there is so much division in the US. People that don’t actually want to truly understand complex issue and think that they can educate the next generation with simplistic explanations of complex issues. I would hope most kids would listen to the rantings of their crazy racist uncle and actually try to understand the truth. But unfortunately for many kids that kind of explanation is what forms their views. Ask El Capitan how he explained BLM to his niece and you will see why racism carries on from generation to generation.

 

[Golfman25]

This is another example of a reason why there is so much division in the US. People that don’t actually want to truly understand complex issue and think that they can educate the next generation with simplistic explanations of complex issues. I would hope most kids would listen to the rantings of their crazy racist uncle and actually try to understand the truth. But unfortunately for many kids that kind of explanation is what forms their views. Ask El Capitan how he explained BLM to his niece and you will see why racism carries on from generation to generation.

Are you really going to BLM, the group? Do you know anything about that group?

 

[Creekwood]

Are you really going to BLM, the group? Do you know anything about that group?

Why don’t you educate me about what you think BLM is all about. If you think it can be summed up in a witty two sentences you demonstrate my point.

I know exactly what BLM is. I know it has been high jacked too. I do NOT support defunding police. But I also know that the reason by BLM exists is deep and real and cannot be summed up in a quick few racists comments. Up in Canada there is a corporate initiative called “Black North”. It was just formed and has a bold mission to end racism in Canada. Yes Canada. Its there because its the right thing to do to help solve the reason BLM rose up. https://blacknorth.ca/Home

That is what I would explain to my niece or kid about what BLM is, why it is there and why there are better ways. So I hope you understand my point.

 

[MonacoMike]

Still believing in fairytales. You actually believe the Canadians “have it VASTLY more under control“. Viruses are not controllable by human beings in any way shape or form. That is a fact.

We can try to adapt our bodies with a vaccine or battle virus virus to win immunity. I am unaware of any other options.

So now we have established that puny humans cannot control a virus and a vaccine is a dream, just how much liberty should politicians take?

 

[Golfman25]

Why don’t you educate me about what you think BLM is all about. If you think it can be summed up in a witty two sentences you demonstrate my point.

I know exactly what BLM is. I know it has been high jacked too. I do NOT support defunding police. But I also know that the reason by BLM exists is deep and real and cannot be summed up in a quick few racists comments. Up in Canada there is a corporate initiative called “Black North”. It was just formed and has a bold mission to end racism in Canada. Yes Canada. Its there because its the right thing to do to help solve the reason BLM rose up. https://blacknorth.ca/Home

That is what I would explain to my niece or kid about what BLM is, why it is there and why there are better ways. So I hope you understand my point.

Let me sum it up for you. BLM, the phrase, is something 90%+ Americans agree with. BLM, the group, is a marxist organization out to destroy America by hiding behind a phrase 90%+ American agree with.

 

[Creekwood]

Let me sum it up for you. BLM, the phrase, is something 90%+ Americans agree with. BLM, the group, is a marxist organization out to destroy America by hiding behind a phrase 90%+ American agree with.

Hey. We agree. That is why Black North was created.

 

[CaptRonn]

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/d...ding-use-hydroxychloroquine-treating-covid-19

 

[bobeast]

Let me sum it up for you. BLM, the phrase, is something 90%+ Americans agree with. BLM, the group, is a marxist organization out to destroy America by hiding behind a phrase 90%+ American agree with.

Exactly right. And the more they can get well-meaning, mis-guided individuals to call each other racists when they have no clue what is in the hearts of their targets, the closer BLM gets to achieving its goal.

 

[El Capitan]

He's still got better odds than you. US death rate in 2019 was 8.8 persons per 100,000. Thats an increase of 1.12% over the death rate the previous year. The Canadian death rate in 2019 was 7.7 persons per 100,000. That an increase from the previous year of .6%. So Canadians have better survival rate than US and the US rate is increasing annually at twice the Canadian increase.

Somebody skipped statistics class ... or maybe they don’t teach it in Oh Caaaanadaaa.

 

[Creekwood]

Somebody skipped statistics class ... or maybe they don’t teach it in Oh Caaaanadaaa.

El Capitan won't see this (he has "ignored" me, LOL), but for the rest. Sitting where we are right now, using current trailing 14 day numbers of cases and deaths, the odds of getting COVID, and the odds of dying from it are significantly higher in the US than Canada. I am NOT saying that you all have a high chance of dying or even getting it. Just setting the statistical record straight (and yes I went to my stats classes and graduated cum laude, so I actually paid attention too).

 

[MonacoMike]

Selected paragraphs from a blog post on masks. Makes perfect sense to me.

Compliance is not enough. Popular actor Laurence Fox, interviewed on New Culture Forum, said that despite wearing a mask in shops and on public transport, he is still being criticised. You shouldn’t complain, he is told. Instead, you should feel happy. A mask shows that you care, purportedly, and that you are a good person – unlike those ignoramuses and conspiracy theorists who recklessly and selfishly endanger others. As Fox perceives, the coronavirus pandemic is being used to display moral superiority.

Masks have become a fault line in the culture war. Laws and the threat of fines force the majority of people to comply, but there is a thinly veiled contrast between those who want to wear them and those who dislike this excessive response to a mostly mild upper respiratory tract infection. The divide is heavily influenced by social class and ideology.

The mask advocates get their way, because they are the establishment, supported by the legions of graduates of campus puritanism. In this regime of Cultural Maskism, the ordinary folk are cast as germ-spreaders. And so sophisticates must mask themselves from the contagious plebs, who must themselves be muzzled – not only to control the virus that they carry, but also to silence their opposition to an unprecedented loss of liberty.

Do masks make any difference to the spread of Covid-19? The masses are told that their masters are following ‘the science’, yet there is little evidence to justify covering up our faces. Most masks are not sold on any pretence of protection.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/cultural-maskism-social-class-morality-covid-19-regime/

 

[mratlndmrk]

Selected paragraphs from a blog post on masks. Makes perfect sense to me.

Compliance is not enough. Popular actor Laurence Fox, interviewed on New Culture Forum, said that despite wearing a mask in shops and on public transport, he is still being criticised. You shouldn’t complain, he is told. Instead, you should feel happy. A mask shows that you care, purportedly, and that you are a good person – unlike those ignoramuses and conspiracy theorists who recklessly and selfishly endanger others. As Fox perceives, the coronavirus pandemic is being used to display moral superiority.

Masks have become a fault line in the culture war. Laws and the threat of fines force the majority of people to comply, but there is a thinly veiled contrast between those who want to wear them and those who dislike this excessive response to a mostly mild upper respiratory tract infection. The divide is heavily influenced by social class and ideology.

The mask advocates get their way, because they are the establishment, supported by the legions of graduates of campus puritanism. In this regime of Cultural Maskism, the ordinary folk are cast as germ-spreaders. And so sophisticates must mask themselves from the contagious plebs, who must themselves be muzzled – not only to control the virus that they carry, but also to silence their opposition to an unprecedented loss of liberty.

Do masks make any difference to the spread of Covid-19? The masses are told that their masters are following ‘the science’, yet there is little evidence to justify covering up our faces. Most masks are not sold on any pretence of protection.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/cultural-maskism-social-class-morality-covid-19-regime/

But you know what? There are a LOT of people who think wearing a mask helps THEM! Just look at people who are in their car wearing a mask, or walking alone in the woods. The facts are that a large number of people only get there "information" (mis-information?) from watching the news. The news says "wear a mask" so it makes them feel "safe" to wear a mask. I've been in group conversations where people have flat out said they wear a mask (you know, the cloth piece of shit that their cousin made them) so they won't catch it. smh

 

[MonacoMike]

But you know what? There are a LOT of people who think wearing a mask helps THEM! Just look at people who are in their car wearing a mask, or walking alone in the woods. The facts are that a large number of people only get there "information" (mis-information?) from watching the news. The news says "wear a mask" so it makes them feel "safe" to wear a mask. I've been in group conversations where people have flat out said they wear a mask (you know, the cloth piece of shit that their cousin made them) so they won't catch it. smh

That mindset coupled with a word that has been used quite a bit in this thread “control “as if puny humans can control a virus, really shows the number of people that can be led around like sheep.