Earth Day, The Hype Is Coming...

Discussion in 'The Tiki Bar' started by MonacoMike, Apr 19, 2017.

  1. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
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    As Cato's Pat Michaels says, "I've lived through eight environmental apocalypses ... overpopulation ... resource depletion ... Silent Spring ... global cooling ... acid rain ... the ozone hole ... global warming ... the next one is going to be ocean acidification."

    Cant wait to hear the same old trope...

    MM
     
  2. RollerCoastr

    RollerCoastr Well-Known Member

    Nov 15, 2007
    Cedar Point, OH / Miami, FL / MacRay Harbor, MI
    1997 400DA
    340HP 7.4 Mercruiser Bluewaters
    Garmin 741, 742, 8212, 24HD, Intellian I2
    1999 280BR
    Twin 250HP Merc 350 Alpha Ones
    Huh. Come visit the western basin of Lake Erie in July. I can show you what the effects of flagrant disregard for the environment looks like. DO NOT bring a swimsuit - you won't want to put a toe in the water. :(
     
  3. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    2000 Cruisers 3870
    97 270 Sundancer
    85 Sea Ray Monaco 197
    8.2 Mercs,
    7.4 BII
    260hp Alpha 1
    it is not "global warming" causing the issue. It is fertilizer use.

    MM
     
  4. sfergson727

    sfergson727 Administrator TECHNICAL Contributor PLATINUM Sponsor

    Oct 12, 2007
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    Which means it is time to play this again.
    [video=youtube;_4WUAhh4mB8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4WUAhh4mB8[/video]
     
  5. sfergson727

    sfergson727 Administrator TECHNICAL Contributor PLATINUM Sponsor

    Oct 12, 2007
    Washington Park Marina, Michigan City
    '07 340 DA, E97, A75, VV4, Soft Top
    '18 Boston Whaler 15 Montauk
    8.1 Mercruiser V-Drives, Mercury 60 HP Bigfoot
    Exactly
     
  6. Gofirstclass

    Gofirstclass Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

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    Yeah, but if the "experts" admitted that it was fertilizer, what would Al Gore have to say?
     
  7. northern

    northern Well-Known Member

    Jan 17, 2007
    West coast Vancouver to Alaska
    380 Aft Cabin 1989 GPS and Charts by Nobeltec
    Twin 454 strait shaft
    Have "Green neighbours" They own 3 cars one is a 1994 Suburban. Asked why they did not get a more efficient one. Cost too much. Green is good for them as long as it does not cost them Green. They also have a cottage with 4 boats some with old 2 stroke engines. Green people are like blow boat people if they could afford a cruiser they would. If they had a free parking spot they would drive to work.
    Such is life. We have ranch and produce over 500 tonnes of carbon credits a year so I feel I do my part.
     
  8. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

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    Cummins 6CTA8.3
    That doesn't offset the CO2 that those 454's produce does it?:lol:
     
  9. northshore

    northshore Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 17, 2011
    Cleveland, OH
    1989 340 Sundancer
    Raymarine E90W Radar/Chartplotter
    Twin 454 Mercruiser 340's

    Maybe CO ?
     
  10. Steve195

    Steve195 Member

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    I used to work in the residential audio/video and home automation business. We were working with a homeowner who owned a land development company. He was building a very large new home and wanted lots of cool AV equipment and money seemed to be no object. . Sensing an opportunity to increase the sale, I started talking to him about adding lighting control throughout his house, explaining how it was not only cool technology, but it also was a "green" product because he helped save energy, etc. etc.

    I remember his reply to this day. "Son, I rape and pillage mother earth for a living. Do you really think I give a crap about being green?" He then proceeded to spend about $50k on lighting control because he thought the automation was cool!
     
  11. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Nov 20, 2007
    N. Wisconsin/Lk Superior
    2005 420DA
    Cummins 6CTA8.3
    Nope....CO2. Northern mentioned carbon credits, not being put to sleep by your Honda generator.
     
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  12. northshore

    northshore Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 17, 2011
    Cleveland, OH
    1989 340 Sundancer
    Raymarine E90W Radar/Chartplotter
    Twin 454 Mercruiser 340's

    Now I'm puzzled - you mentioned 'offsetting the 'CO2' put out by the 454's' to paraphrase
    I own a couple of those and they put out A LOT more CO as opposed to CO2 - Hell, I probably put out more CO2 than my big blocks do.
     
  13. RollerCoastr

    RollerCoastr Well-Known Member

    Nov 15, 2007
    Cedar Point, OH / Miami, FL / MacRay Harbor, MI
    1997 400DA
    340HP 7.4 Mercruiser Bluewaters
    Garmin 741, 742, 8212, 24HD, Intellian I2
    1999 280BR
    Twin 250HP Merc 350 Alpha Ones
    I didn't say it was. Earth Day is about increasing awareness of our environment.
     
  14. northern

    northern Well-Known Member

    Jan 17, 2007
    West coast Vancouver to Alaska
    380 Aft Cabin 1989 GPS and Charts by Nobeltec
    Twin 454 strait shaft
    We also canoe in the artic. The water in the lakes and rivers is clean enough to drink without getting sick. Green people seem to think air is the bad thing. It is water if; you can not make ice what will we put in our rum and cola.
     
  15. Joel_MD

    Joel_MD Member

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    Great quote. How many thousands of people across the world actually feed their families by propagating the Global Warming cockamamie? Anytime you hear someone say that a complicated subject is "settled science" you know they're full of it. Nothing is "settled science," even something like the roundness of the Earth. Is the Earth spherical, or is it an oblate spheroid? Is it becoming more oblate with time? Is it because of the sun's gravity or some other reason? I'll bet you could pursue a PhD and write an entire doctoral thesis on the roundness of the Earth. Shutting down debate on Global Warming is important because it's a big lie. The fact is there is a lot of money to be made in Global Warming, whether it's government jobs, non-governmental organizations, educational grants to universities, etc.

    I'm certainly not opposed to clean water, but there is so much "winking and nodding" going on between between the green groups and government, and they seem to obfuscate the biggest sources of pollution. For example, for several years I lived on the Mayo Peninsula, between the South and Rhode Rivers on Chesapeake Bay. For many years all the homes and businesses there had septic systems, and there was a moratorium on new building because of it. Then in the '90s the county government built a sewage treatment plant and required everybody to abandon their septic systems and hook up to the new sewer system. However, the new system was grossly undersized and every time it rained hard or during a power outage you could see thousands of gallons of raw sewage rushing into the South River. But groups like the Chesapeake Bay Foundation will tell you not to fertilize your lawn because the runoff of nutrients might hurt the blue crabs.

    I think Earth Day is stupid.
     
  16. OllieC

    OllieC Active Member

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  17. Joel_MD

    Joel_MD Member

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    Ha! I loved George Carlin when I was a teen in the '80s.
     
  18. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

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    Engine Exhaust.jpg
     
  19. northshore

    northshore Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

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    Twin 454 Mercruiser 340's
  20. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Nov 20, 2007
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    You know, on a car they check emissions by sticking a probe up the tail pipe, :smt043
     

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