Dockhands and Docking

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So.............all that being said.............with my 230, I would prefer the dock hands to ask if we would like help. Stated above yes I can see the scenario that they are instructed to help so no-one rams the dock or get twisted up damaging anyone else's boat, but ask none the less.
On the 230 my crew does very well and I am proud to know I can stick that thing where I want it.
Now, it will take me a little practice and crew retraining to pull our next boat into the slip, but either way I would prefer they ask.
 
Guess I'll add my 2 cents.

Being a new to boating with a new boat I'll take any help I can get whether it be good or bad.
 
I'm with Morph too.... They ask me sometimes how I want it... and I just tell em 'here.. when i come back!' For the most part I have no issue but then I also am in protected areas, no tides, decent slips, little boat,etc. It's nice to hear all the ways it 'can' be done however when I move up. :cool:
 
Four Suns said:
I'm usually on my 10th cocktail.. get the stereotype right.

I knew I was going to get grief for that post as soon as I hit the submit button. Perhaps I should have chosen my comments a little more wisely based on the direction this thread is headed. No offense to anyone who's IQ happens to be larger than their LOA. My boats only 18’, so I happen to meet the requirement. (Just barely.) My only issue with big boats is that I don’t have one (yet.) There are a lot of stupid and/or incompetent boaters out there. Some of them have beautiful boats, some of them don't. My point is/was that you might not be able to tell from the dock which kind of captain you're dealing with, and that a clueless guy in a big heavy boat is probably a dockhand's worst nightmare.

Whew. Now I need a drink…

Edit: And for the record, I've seen people stumble off of just about every size boat. I do realize that LOA and BAC do not necessarily correlate.
 
Ok, so I have a small boat; smallest you can buy from SeaRay I think, and not that many people try to help such a small boat(we go to a secluded marina and have only once had someone ask to help), but I too like to do it all myself. I figure, hey, I've got this little boat to practice with, I might as well do it before I upgrade to something larger. So I always try to bring my boat into the dock perfectly, get it just where I want it, then tie off. Easier to practice striving for perfection now, then try when I have a larger boat which needs precision.

I think the bottom line is, if you want to help, ASK FIRST. If the captain declines, stand back; no problem, no issues. Simple.
 
Hopefully this will be the last post in this thread. How a thread went from discussing "dockhands and who should control the docking process" to "You have a big boat and should be thankful and just keep your mouth shut because you are usually snooty, drunk, stupid and insult people" is exactly how discussion boards like this go downhill.

I think the record here speaks for itself in that I don't recall any comments from "big boat owners" on this board insulting or degrading "smaller boat owners" because of the size of their boats. The reverse of that is not true as shown in this thread. Frankly, when running around in my boat, I just don't have thoughts like "There's a small boat owner and he must be lower on the success ladder of life than me" going through my head. In fact, that would be a stupid assumption as the guy in the smaller boat may have a bigger bank account, house, car, dog and wife than me. I assume he's in the boat because that's the boat he wants and enjoys and I respect that. And like Frank, some bigger boat owners may live in a mobile home. Heck, I've even had a guy in a "sport boat" insult my dinghy at the ramp... and I kept my mouth shut.

If it makes anyone feel better to think "That guy has a bigger boat than me but he obviously doesn't deserve it", that's fine... just please don't post it on this board.
 
Four Suns said:
Dear Mr. Democrat Man:

Huh? :smt017

This is the response I get from commenting that it's funny the problems big boat owners have. Can you not understand that? Can you not understand that a problem for a big boat owner might strike a small boat owner as being a little silly? I didn't say anything about you not deserving your boat, or you being drunk, or being a snob. Like you, I don't care what size boat anyone has. However, this is a forum. It's not a private conversation. If you don't want comments, don't post. Lighten up.
 
:lol: All the fun happens when I don't pay attention to a thread.




Frank, where does your wife work out of? :lol:
 
you mentioned that your wife worked as an escort :lol:
 
Perhaps the "small boat owners" who have chosen to participate in this thread by criticizing and characterizing big boat owners in an unfair, unenlightened and negative way would do well to remember who answers their questions and who are usually the first to help them solve their boating problems when they post questions on CSR.

Let me see if I can find my list.....................
 
A sad day on CSR ... the very first thread I have seen on this board since all us SRO folks came over here that really went South :smt009
 
Sorry Turtle Tone....short term memory loss. Can't tell you where as this board may be being monitored by the escort service police.....

FrankW...well said.

I have had enough of this topic....
 
Ok, lighten up in here or the beatings will begain! :smt021


Like someone one much wizier the I said one time,

Say good nite Gracie, this thread has ended it's life. :thumbsup:
 
Time to freeze this one. On most forums you have the arguments among different brands of boats. On this forum we don't have that. I guess we'll need to keep tabs on the small boat vs big boat crowd. I have never heard anything coming from the big boat guys towards the small boat guys, but I have seen the small boat guys give the big boat guys a hard time (fwiw I have a small boat). Boat size simply does not matter. Most get it, even the small boat guys that let a comment slip every now and again. In the future lets try to keep things on topic and not get our panties in a bunch over what size boat another poster has.

I think Gunn summed up this topic best:
"I think the bottom line is, if you want to help, ASK FIRST. If the captain declines, stand back; no problem, no issues. Simple."

Size of the boat is irrelevant.
 
I also want to add this: people on big boats do not mind help, and do not look down on the dockhands. This discussion is about dockhands that insist on securing lines their way and not listening to the captain that likely has more experience. This topic would not even be here if all dockhands would readily accept a simple "no thank you" when help is offered but not needed. In certain situations I know every boater on this thread would readily accept the help of a dockhand. Once you've spent enough time on the water you will no doubt have had a number of run-ins with dockhands that are pushy, which is the gist of this thread. A new boater seeking help at each docking situation will not have noticed this. It is safe to assume that most people with bigger boats have spent a good amount of time on the water which is why more comments about not wanting help from pushy dockhands is coming from big boat owners. A few experienced small boat owners chimed in with the same view.
 
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