Dinghy Tie Downs

Discussion in 'Dinghies' started by Irie308, Apr 22, 2019.

  1. Irie308

    Irie308 Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    955
    May 28, 2013
    CT
    2004 420 Sedan Bridge, GHS Hydraulic Lift
    Dual Raymarine E120W
    AB Mares 10 VSX with 30 hp Tohatsu
    Cummins 450C 8.3 L Turbocharged
    I’ve been searching for a post on here where someone had custom tie down cables made up for their dinghy. Our new dinghy has about 18” of room for securing the bow to the platform. My current ratchet straps are too long to accomplish this. Does anyone remember the thread or the site in which the custom cables can be ordered?
     
  2. superwa

    superwa Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    157
    Jul 27, 2013
    Rhode Island
    2001 Sea Ray Sundancer 380
    Mercruiser horizon 8.1S
    I use these ones. You can adjust the length to what you need and I like that they have the lip on the hooks so they don’t get undone and fall in the water like others I had in the past.
     

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  3. FootballFan

    FootballFan Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Jun 20, 2012
    Florida
    Marquis 59
    MTU Series 60
    I use a set of custom tie downs. They have stainless hardware, Heavy clip on each end that secure through a d ring on the platform then connection points on the dinghy. Plastic coated cable and a turnbuckle which allows for tightening and loosening.

    Had the same thing on my previous boat, very pleased.

    Will try to find a picture. They came from the company which I bought the dinghy from, they made them to length when they installed the dinghy.
     
  4. my3sons

    my3sons Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Feb 24, 2009
    Upstate NY (lake Erie)
    2004 400DB, Onan 9 kw Gen, Highfield RIB,
    Cummins 6CTA
    Check out Strapworks.com
    Available in stainless. Can buy complete or just parts.
    I just went with 1” stainless ratchet buckles and used my old straps and stainless carabiners. I had to sew on the strap that attaches to the buckle, but that would allow you to make it short enough to work for your setup.
    I think they were 8 or 10 dollars each
     
  5. TNT8808

    TNT8808 Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

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    May 25, 2016
    West Michigan
    2008 48 Sundancer
    Cummins QSC 8.3's
    Avon Seasport 340
    40 HP Yamaha
    I know that I replied to a thread awhile back regarding the custom stainless steel tie downs I had made. Here's the link I provided: http://www.umtmarine.com/stainless-steel/locking-turnbuckles I've had no problems with our dinghy moving at all, and their extremely easy to install and lock down tight with turnbuckle.

    -Tom
     
  6. Irie308

    Irie308 Active Member SILVER Sponsor

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    May 28, 2013
    CT
    2004 420 Sedan Bridge, GHS Hydraulic Lift
    Dual Raymarine E120W
    AB Mares 10 VSX with 30 hp Tohatsu
    Cummins 450C 8.3 L Turbocharged
    yes, that was it. Thanks! Still trying to sort this setup out but wanted to also throw this in there as an option.
     
  7. FootballFan

    FootballFan Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Jun 20, 2012
    Florida
    Marquis 59
    MTU Series 60
    This looks exactly like exactly what I have. On my second dinghy mounting with this approach, have been very happy with it. It is sensitive to placement side to side of the dinghy in the chocks - you have limited adjustment in the turnbuckles. Three inches side to side will make a difference.

    If I am in calm conditions I know where to line up. If it is rougher, I get the dinghy on the chocks erring on being a bit forward. Connect the tie down on the bow, then lower the platform enough for the dinghy to float, then pull it back with a line while raising the platform up.
     
  8. NotHerDecision

    NotHerDecision Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Jun 28, 2016
    Houston, Texas
    2001 Sea Ray 460 Sundancer
    2014 Seadoo 155 LTD
    2105 Seadoo 130 SE
    2013 Mercury Dinghy
    Cummins 6CTA 8.3L
    Just for another option I have stainless ratchet straps from suncor and they’re working on year 3.
     
  9. quality time

    quality time Well-Known Member

    Oct 30, 2007
    Upper Chesapeake Bay
    2003 480DB
    QSM11's
    I use a turnbuckle on the bow and very short ratchet straps on the stern. Pretty sure the straps came from GHS.
     
  10. Irie308

    Irie308 Active Member SILVER Sponsor

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    May 28, 2013
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    2004 420 Sedan Bridge, GHS Hydraulic Lift
    Dual Raymarine E120W
    AB Mares 10 VSX with 30 hp Tohatsu
    Cummins 450C 8.3 L Turbocharged
    I have the same however the eye on the bow is about a foot off of the deck. No way to really rachet it down.
     
  11. Irie308

    Irie308 Active Member SILVER Sponsor

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    May 28, 2013
    CT
    2004 420 Sedan Bridge, GHS Hydraulic Lift
    Dual Raymarine E120W
    AB Mares 10 VSX with 30 hp Tohatsu
    Cummins 450C 8.3 L Turbocharged
    This is what i'm thinking of doing
     
  12. quality time

    quality time Well-Known Member

    Oct 30, 2007
    Upper Chesapeake Bay
    2003 480DB
    QSM11's
    The turnbuckle works well for us and makes dinghy positioning easy. The only downside I see is getting the dinghy loose in an emergency where straps can just be cut quickly.
     
  13. FootballFan

    FootballFan Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Jun 20, 2012
    Florida
    Marquis 59
    MTU Series 60
    Totally agree. The turnbuckle approach functionally provides a very secure attachment and looks nice.

    It is not an arrangement that you could get the dinghy loose in a hurry for use as a life raft. Have considered this a lot and I don't consider the dinghy a replacement or substitute for a life raft.

    The time to unfasten, then the subsequent launching makes it prohibitive. If it is an abandon the boat situation - will there be power to lower the swim platform? If the boat is sinking where the dinghy would float off, is there time to get all the turnbuckles undone and the plug screwed back in? In rough water how practical is it to get everything unfastened, plug in, while standing on a swim platform which is moving up, down, and sideways?

    If this is an abandon the boat scenario, that means you do not have power and can assume the boat is in beam seas with some potential significant movement.

    Finally if I am open water, gulf stream crossing, how safe is the dinghy? As long as there is gas you have some control, but if you run out of gas then I would think being in very rough seas the dinghy would be swamped before very long.

    All that said, I love the dinghy we have but we will be adding a life raft shortly.
     
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  14. Irie308

    Irie308 Active Member SILVER Sponsor

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    May 28, 2013
    CT
    2004 420 Sedan Bridge, GHS Hydraulic Lift
    Dual Raymarine E120W
    AB Mares 10 VSX with 30 hp Tohatsu
    Cummins 450C 8.3 L Turbocharged
    Well assuming we were taking on water in the ER I would think the dinghy being strapped to the platform may give us buoyancy and possible keep the stern afloat :). Just kidding. I really don't like the idea of having to unscrew the turnbuckle in an "abandon ship" scenario. On our 320 we kept a knife by the transom locker to cut the dinghy away in the event of such an emergency and would like to maintain similar protocols on this boat. I currently have the suncor stainless steal ratchet straps that i'm trying to see if i can make work but looking at all options and weighing the pros and cons.
     
  15. TNT8808

    TNT8808 Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

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    May 25, 2016
    West Michigan
    2008 48 Sundancer
    Cummins QSC 8.3's
    Avon Seasport 340
    40 HP Yamaha
    All valid reasons for the different hold downs. I chose to go with the stainless cables with turnbuckles because no matter what straps I bought, or how tight I got them as soon as they got wet the material would start to loosen a little and my dinghy would start banging around.

    My slip mate was having similar issues and found straps that are made out of what looks like seat belt material. So far his have not loosened on him, so maybe this is the happy medium?

    -Tom
     
  16. Havana Shamrock

    Havana Shamrock Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor GOLD Sponsor

    Sep 9, 2008
    Long Island. N.Y.
    2005 500DB
    Furuno Tztouch2 12” MFD x2
    Furuno NXT radar
    Furuno Navpilot
    QSM11's,
    Honda 30HP
    Sea Doo 90 HP H.O.
    When I spoke to one ratchet strap manufacturer he said to use Polyester webbing as it won’t stretch like nylon (I haven’t switched yet) something to do when they both get wet nylon absorbs the water polyester does not the dingy doesn’t see much action since we got the sea doo.
    In my ditch bag is a seat belt cutter to cut the dinghy lose in one swipe.
     
  17. Jeremygavin

    Jeremygavin Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Mar 6, 2012
    Cape Cod, MA
    2011 520 Sedan Bridge
    2016 Sea Ray 19 SPX OB
    2019 Walker Bay Generation 340
    Cummins QSM11s
    Mercury 150 Fourstroke
    Honda 40hp
    I am using stainless turnbuckles to avoid movement but I am putting snap shackles at either end with a t-handle pull on the release so it would be easy for anyone to pull and release in an emergency. They are easy to clip back on to the eyes so for daily use I think they will be a good solution

    https://www.ronstan.com/marine/product.asp?ProdNo=RF6320
     
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  18. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    2000 Cruisers 3870
    8.2 Mercs
    85 Sea Ray Monaco 197
    260hp Alpha 1
  19. FootballFan

    FootballFan Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Jun 20, 2012
    Florida
    Marquis 59
    MTU Series 60
    My opinion. Take it for what it is worth - which is at best a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

    Do not consider your Dinghy as a life raft.

    If your cruising is over distances or conditions where you are concerned about having to abandon ship - then either rent or buy a life raft.

    Lots of scenarios about how to cut the tie downs on a dinghy. Think about after you abandon ship, your on the dinghy - which is sea worthy as long as you have gas to keep it pointed into the waves. How long till the dinghy is in beam seas - and turns over. No way to stop it.

    Not everyone needs a life raft - individuals have to evaluate their own cruising areas. But they are not interchangeable.

    Just my thoughts
     
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  20. Jeremygavin

    Jeremygavin Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Mar 6, 2012
    Cape Cod, MA
    2011 520 Sedan Bridge
    2016 Sea Ray 19 SPX OB
    2019 Walker Bay Generation 340
    Cummins QSM11s
    Mercury 150 Fourstroke
    Honda 40hp
    I agree with you if I was cruising far distances such as down the coast to FL or something of that nature I would invest in a real life raft. For how we are currently Boating, given we are always within 20miles of some piece of land and will not be out in conditions that would turn over the dingy I think having the dingy as an emergency raft is sufficient.
     

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