Current situation.....

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  1. Jeff8330

    Jeff8330 Member

    31
    Apr 22, 2019
    Toms river, nj
    1981 srv 310 sedan bridge
    Twin 454 mercruisers
    T/340(454) mercruiser straight drives
    So the previous owner installed a windlass in my boat. (81 310 sedan bridge). Well we've always had a problem with water entry into the berth, for obvious reasons. Luckily, this was done right before I got ahold of the boat so it hasn't rotted. I'm wondering what I should do with the gaping hole in the deck......I'm thinking of a metal cylinder, sealed to the deck with 5200, into some sort of a sump that I can pump out. Or maybe a hose off said cylinder into the bilge. Just reduce the hose size somehow. Or just rip the windlass off and seal it back up. Or a drain hole. But even if I drill one, I have no idea where it'd go...... Thoughts.???
     

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  2. Jeff8330

    Jeff8330 Member

    31
    Apr 22, 2019
    Toms river, nj
    1981 srv 310 sedan bridge
    Twin 454 mercruisers
    T/340(454) mercruiser straight drives
    Sorry about the pictures being sideways, not real sure why it did that.....
     
  3. hottoddie

    hottoddie Well-Known Member

    Jan 11, 2012
    Boston/Cape Cod
    1986 Sea Ray 390 EC
    Garmin 4212 Chartplotter
    Garmin 24 HD Radar
    Garmin 546s Plotter
    454 Crusaders
    There should be a gasket and or silicone sealing the base of the windlass to prevent water entry. In addition some will have a Sunbrella cover made for the windlass to deflect water when not in use.
     
  4. Jeff8330

    Jeff8330 Member

    31
    Apr 22, 2019
    Toms river, nj
    1981 srv 310 sedan bridge
    Twin 454 mercruisers
    T/340(454) mercruiser straight drives
    Yeah Im 99% sure I'm going to have to re-seat/seal it, but where the rope/chain enters the locker is my concern. It's just a Giant, raw hole. I'm not sure how to provision it so it'll drain correctly.

    The cover however seems like a plausible Idea. I also considered building something around it so that water drains off that.
     
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  5. KevinC

    KevinC Well-Known Member

    Feb 25, 2011
    Long Island, NY
    2004 340 Sundancer
    Twin 8.1 V-drives
    You can seal the raw wood edges with an epoxy resin. May need a couple of coats as the raw end grain will want to absorb alot of the the first coat.

    Kevin
     
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  6. Jeff8330

    Jeff8330 Member

    31
    Apr 22, 2019
    Toms river, nj
    1981 srv 310 sedan bridge
    Twin 454 mercruisers
    T/340(454) mercruiser straight drives
    That's most likely what I'll do, but drainage is where I'm stuck. It's solid glass to the outside of the boat. So drilling isn't an option I guess. Don't know how nill fit a sump in there...... Just not sure what to do with it.
     
  7. BillK2632

    BillK2632 Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 25, 2009
    Lake Norman, NC
    1999 185 Bowrider,
    Mercruiser 4.3, Alpha I
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  8. Skip Boyer

    Skip Boyer Member

    72
    Sep 24, 2015
    North Carolina
    1998 500DA Sundancer, 1999 Maxum 2800, 1998 270DA, FFG 7 Oliver Hazard Perry
    Twin Detroit 6V92TA
    I would that the windlass manufacture would make a cup with a cover for chain/rode entry area. Have you researched anything along those lines yet ? I have had windlass on several boats and even with all the openings properly sealed there was always a small amount of water entry. Have you checked to see if there is a factory drain on the bow for the chain locker ? I have had to pull all the chain out to find and clean out a drain that was plugged with mud.
     
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  9. Skip Boyer

    Skip Boyer Member

    72
    Sep 24, 2015
    North Carolina
    1998 500DA Sundancer, 1999 Maxum 2800, 1998 270DA, FFG 7 Oliver Hazard Perry
    Twin Detroit 6V92TA
    Ditto on the hawse pipe. I couldnt remeber what they were called.
     
  10. JimG

    JimG Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Nov 4, 2008
    Southern WV
    2007 310 DA
    Kohler 5ECD
    Twin 350 Mags
    Raw Water Cooled
    V-Drives
    Your anchor locker should have a drain hole. If it doesn't, I would drill one, finish the raw edges, and fit a clam shell over it.
     
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  11. Creekwood

    Creekwood Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 26, 2009
    Oakville and Georgian Bay, Ontario
    '97 330 Sundancer, Raymarine C80 suite with radar, Mercury 310 Hypalon w/8hp Yammie 2stk
    2X 454 carbs w/ vDrives
    It doesn't look like you have an anchor rode locker that is set up like a well. But its hard to tell from the pictures. It looks like a shelf that would allow any water to drain back to the cabin? If that is the problem, it should be easy to build a wall on the inside (maybe open at the top?) and glass it in so it forms a well. Then you do what Summer daze said above, drill a drain hole (or two, one on each side) at a low spot out the side of the hull so it drains overboard and cover with clamshells.
     
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  12. Jeff8330

    Jeff8330 Member

    31
    Apr 22, 2019
    Toms river, nj
    1981 srv 310 sedan bridge
    Twin 454 mercruisers
    T/340(454) mercruiser straight drives
    That's the route I'm going to go. But where the water runs into (the rope locker) there's NO drain. No holes no nothing. I guess because there was no windlass on this boat originally.
     
  13. Jeff8330

    Jeff8330 Member

    31
    Apr 22, 2019
    Toms river, nj
    1981 srv 310 sedan bridge
    Twin 454 mercruisers
    T/340(454) mercruiser straight drives
    That is the biggest issue I'm having. There is no drain.... It's solid glass to the outside of the boat. So it's really not an option to drill one either.
     
  14. techmitch

    techmitch Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    May 1, 2008
    Chesapeake Bay, Middle River/Frog Mortar Creek MD.
    1999 270 DA
    Twin 4.3s W/Alpa I Gen II's
    I would rebed the windlass and build a glassed in and sealed 2nd shelf slanted towards the bow and add the drain and clamshell.
    There will probably be many times that you will be glad you have that windlass.
     
  15. Jeff8330

    Jeff8330 Member

    31
    Apr 22, 2019
    Toms river, nj
    1981 srv 310 sedan bridge
    Twin 454 mercruisers
    T/340(454) mercruiser straight drives
    That looks like the route I'm gonna have to take
     
  16. BillK2632

    BillK2632 Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 25, 2009
    Lake Norman, NC
    1999 185 Bowrider,
    Mercruiser 4.3, Alpha I
    Why can't you put a drain in and cover with a clam shell like you see on most boats? Even if you get all the leaking stopped, you still have all the rode going into the locker wet - water has to go somewhere.
     
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  17. Jeff8330

    Jeff8330 Member

    31
    Apr 22, 2019
    Toms river, nj
    1981 srv 310 sedan bridge
    Twin 454 mercruisers
    T/340(454) mercruiser straight drives
    I guess I can. It's just oddly shaped down there. Gonna have to position the hole just right
     
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  18. DWABoat

    DWABoat Active Member

    194
    Aug 13, 2019
    S Louisiana
    2001 280 Sundancer
    1989 220CC Cuddy Cabin
    Twin 4.3 w/Alpha Ones
    5.7 Mercruiser Alpha One
    BillK is right. When you put that wet lake/sea water saturated rope in that dark enclosed compartment, you will have to clean and drain it or it will get nasty.
    I just pulled all my rope out and spent an hour sanitizing and washing the compartment with soap, water, and long brush. It sure looks and smells nicer in there now. Glad I had a drain.
     
  19. hottoddie

    hottoddie Well-Known Member

    Jan 11, 2012
    Boston/Cape Cod
    1986 Sea Ray 390 EC
    Garmin 4212 Chartplotter
    Garmin 24 HD Radar
    Garmin 546s Plotter
    454 Crusaders
    Make sure the drain is in the low spot and make the hole large enough (maybe 1/2") so that muddy water brought up on the rode won't clog it. If the side of the hull where you drill the drain hole is wood cored make sure you seal the wood with epoxy sealer to prevent rot. And as said use a clamshell cover pointed downward and toward the stern to keep water from entering in rough water.
     
  20. boatman37

    boatman37 Well-Known Member

    Jun 6, 2015
    pittsburgh
    2006 Crownline 250CR. 5.7 Merc BIII
    Previous: 1986 Sea Ray 250 Sundancer. 260 Merc Alpha 1 Gen 1
    5.7 Merc BIII
    Fiberglass up the bottom of that shelf so it slopes to one side then drill a hole to the outside at the low point. Seal the edges of the hole and add a clamshell on the outside. Then build a wall to put on the cabin end of that 'shelf' and glass it up to seal it. Doesn't need to go all the way up to the deck. Maybe just a few inches high to contain and water. As long as it is higher than the drain hole you just drilled in the hull. Be sure to seal all wood very good
     

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