Considering a 2000 Sundancer 400

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  1. Pairadocs

    Pairadocs Member

    31
    Jan 15, 2016
    Fenton, MI/Tawas City, MI
    400 Sundancer 1998
    3116 Caterpillar
    This is probably a straight forward question for most of you. I am having a tough time getting straight info on the LOA of the 1998 Sundancer 400. I see 41'6" on paper, but when I talked to the seller he says 46'. Another seller stated 44'. Can someone shed some light on this? Thanks
     
  2. Boat Guy

    Boat Guy Well-Known Member

    I Think it's whether you add in the swim platform... roughly 41.5 w/o... 44.5 with, from memory..
     
  3. Alegria

    Alegria Well-Known Member

    Feb 21, 2009
    Lancaster,PA Boat: -Sue Creek, MD
    2000 410 DA
    3126 CAT
    I've seen 44' 6" for the 400 and 45' 6" for the 410.

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  4. HUMPH

    HUMPH Well-Known Member

    Nov 4, 2009
    SF BAY AREA
    2003 410DA,
    2004 C14 Caribe
    CAT 3126TA's 350HP/
    50HP Honda
    Yes, my 2003 410DA is 45' 6" LOA. The 1998 400DA is 44' 4" with the swim platform.
     

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  5. RollerCoastr

    RollerCoastr Well-Known Member

    Nov 15, 2007
    Cedar Point, OH / Miami, FL / MacRay Harbor, MI
    1997 400DA
    340HP 7.4 Mercruiser Bluewaters
    Garmin 8212, 741 24HD, Intellian I2
    1999 280BR
    Twin 250HP Merc 350 Alpha Ones
    The holding tank was 40 gallons though - the spec stating 28 was an error.
     
  6. Bigwake

    Bigwake New Member

    5
    Jan 28, 2016
    Lake Saint Clair
    400 Sundancer 1998
    Belle Maer Harbor
    Caterpillar 3116 TA
    I bought a 1998 400 Sundancer with Diesel's last year and my wife and I love it. It's a great boat with lots of room, You'll really enjoy it this summer. If you go to the Sea Ray website under model archives, click on spec sheets and you'll be able to access information on your boat.
     
  7. Pairadocs

    Pairadocs Member

    31
    Jan 15, 2016
    Fenton, MI/Tawas City, MI
    400 Sundancer 1998
    3116 Caterpillar
    Thanks. Good to know. We will be in Tawas for the season if you ever decide to make a trip up north let me know.
     
  8. Bigwake

    Bigwake New Member

    5
    Jan 28, 2016
    Lake Saint Clair
    400 Sundancer 1998
    Belle Maer Harbor
    Caterpillar 3116 TA
    We're at Belle Maer now. We love East Tawas.May be seeing you this summer.
     
  9. Pairadocs

    Pairadocs Member

    31
    Jan 15, 2016
    Fenton, MI/Tawas City, MI
    400 Sundancer 1998
    3116 Caterpillar
    Feel free. Tawas Bay Marina. Just south of the state dock in East Tawas.
     
  10. Pairadocs

    Pairadocs Member

    31
    Jan 15, 2016
    Fenton, MI/Tawas City, MI
    400 Sundancer 1998
    3116 Caterpillar
    I need to pick the forum's brain one more time. We have completed the out of water survey on the 98 DA 400. In general it went very well. Above average in essentially all areas. There were two areas of concern that I would like input on. First, there were several areas below water line that registered low to slightly more than low areas of moisture. The surveyor was not concerned with this. My question is if this is actually acceptable? This is April, and the boat has been in heated storage since last fall. Second issue: Initially the surveyor felt there was a 12" x 18" area of delamination on the hull. He revisited the boat with a fiberglass specialist. He is revising his report to state the area is actually a 4 inch diameter area of delamination. His thought is that this does not need repair at this time, and that it should just be monitored on an annual basis. Seems like a risk for me, and a possible issue for the boat. The plan is to launch within the week and then complete a sea trial. I am not sure that should be the plan if this is something that is unacceptable. Any input would be appreciated.
     
  11. Stee6043

    Stee6043 Well-Known Member

    Jun 1, 2015
    West Michigan
    1997 Sundancer 400
    7.4L Gassers
    Would it make sense to have the fiberglass specialist quote the cost of repair for the area of delamination and then use this quote to negotiate? If it can be repaired (with confidence) and you can get the cost covered in the deal I wouldn't consider this to be a deal breaker. My two cents only...
     
  12. magstang1

    magstang1 Active Member

    May 30, 2010
    Lake St.Clair
    1998 31 Sedan Bridge
    Twin 350 Marine Power
    Whatever you decide, St.Clair fiberglass behind West Marine on North River and Chart is who you want to talk to. Ask for Dan. I would avoid Bay Harbor in Belle Maer.
     
  13. ttmott

    ttmott Well-Known Member

    Apr 3, 2012
    Space Coast Florida
    2006 52 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins QSM11
    Specifically where are those areas?
    Transom, stringers, and deck are areas that concern me; only in that they are difficult and costly to repair.
    If the surveyor isn't concerned then agree not a deal breaker by any means.
     
  14. Pairadocs

    Pairadocs Member

    31
    Jan 15, 2016
    Fenton, MI/Tawas City, MI
    400 Sundancer 1998
    3116 Caterpillar
    Hull moisture detected on both sides from the stern 5-6 feet forward at and below water line. It was noted to be low on the port side and slightly higher on the starboard side. Not sure if this is appropriate given that the boat has been in heated storage (surveyor doesn't seem too concerned). The delamination was noted on the port bottom. It is noted to be 4-5 inches in diameter aft of the inboard lifting strake. They are recommending annual monitoring only, and no repair necessary at this time. Open to your thoughts. Thanks
     
  15. Pairadocs

    Pairadocs Member

    31
    Jan 15, 2016
    Fenton, MI/Tawas City, MI
    400 Sundancer 1998
    3116 Caterpillar
    Thanks for the recommendation.
     
  16. magstang1

    magstang1 Active Member

    May 30, 2010
    Lake St.Clair
    1998 31 Sedan Bridge
    Twin 350 Marine Power
    Check out Dri-boat. I have no affiliation, but it looks impressive.
     
  17. mquiet

    mquiet Member

    980
    Aug 4, 2009
    North carolina
    1999 480 Sedan Bridge
    Caterpillar 3196
    How old is the boat?? Sounds like this are not major concerns. As stated, stringers and deck areas would be more of a concern. If the surveyor did percussion sounds and the areas have strong report, then do not worry. Just make sure any thru holes are sealed up.


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  18. Pairadocs

    Pairadocs Member

    31
    Jan 15, 2016
    Fenton, MI/Tawas City, MI
    400 Sundancer 1998
    3116 Caterpillar
    Thanks for the info. She is a 98, and in general in outstanding condition.
     
  19. mquiet

    mquiet Member

    980
    Aug 4, 2009
    North carolina
    1999 480 Sedan Bridge
    Caterpillar 3196
    18 year old boat with those issues. That's why the surveyor is not flinching.


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  20. Pairadocs

    Pairadocs Member

    31
    Jan 15, 2016
    Fenton, MI/Tawas City, MI
    400 Sundancer 1998
    3116 Caterpillar
    Thanks for everyone's input. The area of delamination was evaluated further and corrected. Once sanded down it did not appear to be an real issue. ON TO THE SEA TRAIL!!
     

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