carry on generators

THATS it !!, I'm calling the marina owner and have him pull my boat. :grin:

Its too scary to own a portable genny & boat at the same time. :wow:

I'm staying in my hiding room until winter gets here. :smt043
 
One of the links that I find very interesting is this one:

http://www.doubleangel.org/documents/NatlCaseListingBoat-RelatedCOPoisoningsMay2007April2008_000.pdf

It is a summary of all known CO poisonings in the USA April 2008. I have copied the lead in to the study below to peak your interest.

Reading over the document, by far the vast majority of CO poisonings in boats seem to be houseboats with built in generators, followed by "teak surfers" poisoned by engine CO, and then faulty or leaking exhaust on built in generators. Very few of them are indicated to be related to a portable generator.

In my mind, the key lesson is that you MUST have a functioning CO detector, or better yet two, on the boat, no matter what you do, even without a generator. Read this document. It will really open your eyes to the real danger of CO. (one of the examples involved someone that nearly died because they disabled the CO detector because it kept going off "for no reason". That my friends is Darwinism at its best!)

Sorry to add more fuel to the fire (make sure you keep the windows open while you have this post open) :wink:
BOAT-RELATED CARBON MONOXIDE (CO) POISONINGS
Updated: May 2007 – April 2008

At the request of the U.S. Coast Guard, an interagency team (comprised of representatives of the National Park Service, the US Department of Interior, and the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health) investigating boat-related CO Poisonings compiled a listing of CO poisonings occurring
across the United States. The last interagency update of the listing was dated October, 2004.

In January 2006 and continuing through the April 2007 update, the Double Angel Foundation (www.doubleangel.org) updated the interagency case listing. The Foundation is a non-profit organization dedicated to providing ongoing awareness of the dangers of CO poisoning on and around boats.
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Woody said:
If this is code what about boats that have engine exhaust ports out the stern?

As far as the alternator and flame arrestor scenarios go couldn't they be given the proper answer w/explanation without literally saying it's stupid and dangerous.
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It depends. On most days and to most people I probably would say it's dangerous to use an automotive part. But to an arrogant sob who spent 18 years in a marina and knows more than everyone else, I'd say it's stupid and dangerous. Hope that clarifies it.
 
Really?? Are we still in junior high school???

A new guy asks an honest question and you all ridicule the question rather than offer anything useful.

Thanks for reminding me why I don't come around here much anymore...


Frank
 
Don't forget the portable genny, it could come in handy in there. Zzzzzzzzzzz, I am getting sleepy...I wonder why?...oh well, this noisy generator should keep me awake. :grin:
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I rather have the genny running to kill the spiders than that bug bomb crap !!. :smt021 . :grin:
 
Thanks for reminding me why I don't come around here much anymore...
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Frank. Did you read the whole thread ??.

PS Its nice to see you on here posting. I have asked about you.

You was the first person to Welcome me to CSR.

Take care Wayne.
 
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Slippery When Wet said:
OK, I quoted his original post. Please show me where he asked anything related to the safety of portable generators. He simply asked for opinions on brands.

IMHO, you and everyone else that jumped on him about the safety concerns, when he wasn't even asking about that are the A-holes. Especially considering how juvenile and rude most of the comments were.

The OP is not at fault here. All of you "know-it-alls" are...

BTW, even after ALL of the threads on this topic, I still have not heard one legitmate reason why portable generators, when used properly, are any more dangerous than an onboard generator in regard to CO poisoning.
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I'm sorry, did you read my original post? Was I rude? I don't think so. I posted links with info and said "I'm out".
Now you want to label me an A-hole?? WTF??? I used to think you were an entertaining poster but I have to say I'm not a fan anymore.
 
Wayne's World said:
Frank. Did you read the whole thread ??.

PS Its nice to see you on here posting. I have asked about you.

You was the first person to Welcome me to CSR.

Take care Wayne.
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Honestly, no. The first 4 pages were enough for me. I stewed about it for the rest of the day before saying anything and then read the last couple pages before posting. I really hate the mob mentality that takes over when someone new asks what might be considered a "dumb" question.

We were all new once and can all learn something from pretty much anyone...


Frank
ps: Thanks for asking Wayne. I lost track of your trip. Did you ever make it to Lake Champlain?
I'm still out here on the water!
 
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We were all new once and can all learn something from pretty much anyone...
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Thats true !!. But he also said that he worked at a marina for 18yrs. :huh:
And he knows nothing about gennys ??. :wow:. Maybe he shouldn't own one then ??
 
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tdschafer said:
I'm sorry, did you read my original post? Was I rude? I don't think so. I posted links with info and said "I'm out".
Now you want to label me an A-hole?? WTF??? I used to think you were an entertaining poster but I have to say I'm not a fan anymore.
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I read your original post and thought it was proper and informative. I doubt that SJ was including you when he said "some of you are too stupid" although after your second post he probably changed his opinion.
 
Slippery When Wet said:
Hondas are VERY popular around here, and I have not heard of anyone dying from one yet. Just be smart about how you use it and where you put it and it will be just fine. Also, make sure you have a good CO detector. Many more people die from other boating accidents than portable generators, but we all still take that risk.

:thumbsup:
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By the way, isn't this you advising the OP on safe usage of the portable generator even though he didn't ask? I guess your in with the rest of us A-holes.
 
Re: Really?? Are we still in junior high school???

penbroke said:
A new guy asks an honest question and you all ridicule the question rather than offer anything useful.

Thanks for reminding me why I don't come around here much anymore...


Frank
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Amen. And for those who think submursible portable power cables are not safe, just do a search.Plenty of IP68 cables and connectors out there. So the OP might have already had that in mind with the onshore placement of the genny.

He had asked about the power plant itself, and not the distribution or location specs.
 
Woody said:
I read your original post and thought it was proper and informative. I doubt that SJ was including you when he said "some of you are too stupid" although after your second post he probably changed his opinion.
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I guess I was a little harsh but, how do I know who he was insulting? I only come here to gain knowledge and help others when possible. I don't have an opinion on the portable generator controversy because I never used one on a boat and don't plan too. I just know that several locals died recently and it seems to happen every couple of years here. I just wanted to relay that aspect to help the guy out and now I have others attacking me? Whatever....This is my last comment on this thread. :smt015
 
sjmorton said:
Well it's obvious that some of you are too stupid to get anything to work unless you have a dealer option to select when buying. I've worked at a marina for 18yrs. and it's amazing the amount of boaters that can't even check their own oil I think I just found a few. Thanks to the ones of you that actually had some real input. I was actually going to put the generator on the beach when we were at the island we go to. I've got a 100' shore power cord to keep it away from the boat. I couldn't imagine the noise and vibration from a portable running on a boat. I was just curious if there was another brand as good as a Honda.:smt021
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To answer you question... Yes there are other less expensive generators that would work, like the $250 2KVA at harbor freight. The Honda's are probably the best of all the portable gennys... If you are using a 100' extension, it would have to be rated to carry at least 20 AMP for a 2 KVA generator. The portable generator questions brings out the worst from this site. I would not run the genny at night on your island when you are sleeping... For everything but AC, an inverter would probably be a better choice. I am sorry for all the joking and jesting, it happened to me too... I just don't ask portable genny question on this forum...
 
I think we all would have been more tolerant if we had not just come off a marathon on this very topic. You know this will not be the last newbie to ask about gen sets and we know we all have an opinion so be ready next time. It doesn’t do any good to alienate each other as we all have good intentions on safe boating habits. As for me, I'll comment to poke fun but I have no dog in the fight either way.

This is my parting comment on the thread.
 
If that's the best you all can do at "rude and juvenile" when a new guy shows up, you all are a bunch of armatures.
 
tdschafer said:
By the way, isn't this you advising the OP on safe usage of the portable generator even though he didn't ask? I guess your in with the rest of us A-holes.
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Difference is, I wasn't a jackass in how I stated my opinion.

Sorry, but the following comment is juvenile and A-hole'ish IMO:

tdschafer said:
I believe that SJ is an AH and he is now dead to me. Run your genny all night in your cabin Capt. Know it all!!!
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