Carpet backing brittle - any way to save them?

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  1. stevediarchangel

    stevediarchangel Member SILVER Sponsor

    168
    Jun 28, 2015
    New York
    99 340 Sundancer
    7.4 Mercruiser w V drives
    The carpets I have on the boat have a black rubber backing. The backing has gotten so dry it's brittle. Any ideas on slowing this process down or stopping it. The black is flaking off and making a mess and/ or it's sticking to the deck.

    Thanks for any help!!!
     
  2. Captn TJ

    Captn TJ Active Member

    332
    Sep 19, 2017
    Catawba Island, Oh
    2005 280DA
    Raymarine E80
    5.0 with Bravo 3
    Best remedy is the trash can - you can't save it and if you keep it all of that crumbly backing will be impacted into your non skid. Then install Infinity Woven vinyl.
     
  3. wyrman

    wyrman Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    870
    Jul 12, 2012
    Tri-Cities, Wa
    2007 310 Sundancer
    Twin 350's, V drives
    1994 18' Bluewater bowrider
    There actually are ways to save it. There are several threads here about the subject.
    I'm in the process now of applying Flexseal to mine, and its turning out really good.
    I pressure washed as much off as I could, then rolled the Flexseal on.
    It should give me a few more years out of it.
    The Infinity and similar products do get warm/hot, according to a lot of people.
     
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  4. BrockA

    BrockA New Member

    5
    Jun 4, 2017
    Possum Kingdom, TX
    2006 Sea Ray 300DA Twin 5.0 Merc Bravo III's
    Twin 5.0 Mercruiser, BIII Drives
    I brushed white Flexseal on mine (2 coats), it works great! No more black stuff everywhere. I remove the carpets at the dock, wash down with a hi-pressure hose, they stay nice and clean and don’t shrink at all.
     
  5. JeffM

    JeffM Member SILVER Sponsor

    533
    Oct 6, 2006
    Magothy River, MD
    2000 Sea Ray 260 Sundancer
    5.7 EFI w/Bravo III
    +1 on flexseal. Used a power washer and stiff brush to remove the black and brushed on the flexseal. Just be careful not to get any on the carpet side (D’Oh!)!
     
  6. stevediarchangel

    stevediarchangel Member SILVER Sponsor

    168
    Jun 28, 2015
    New York
    99 340 Sundancer
    7.4 Mercruiser w V drives
    Sounds like Flexseal it is. Is this the stuff that you see on the bad infomercials? Where do you purchase flex seal?
     
  7. Michael Puckett

    Michael Puckett New Member

    1
    Jul 4, 2018
    1996 Sundancer 330, Garman 740S
    MerCruiser, Chevy 454 gas engines, w/V Drive
    Wall Mart. I just completed this project last Sunday. Flex Seal , white, was applied. Rust-oleum has a clear product that works well too.
     
  8. paulswagelock

    paulswagelock Well-Known Member

    Oct 25, 2010
    pa
    2018 SDX 270 OB 300 Verado
    Verado 300
    Durabak smooth works perfectly as well. I did mine and when I sold it three years later there still was not a spot of black dust.
     
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  9. CaptRonn

    CaptRonn Active Member

    252
    May 25, 2016
    Houston
    1999 Sea Ray 400 Sedan Bridge
    Mercruiser Horizon 8.1 MPI
    The commercials are corny, but that stuff works!

    I have a driver's floor mat in my FJ that had a hole worn in it from the heel (mat is rubber). I used the liquid black flex seal and repaired it, it's still there a year later.

    I've also used it on the bitter ends of my dock lines.
     
  10. wyrman

    wyrman Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    870
    Jul 12, 2012
    Tri-Cities, Wa
    2007 310 Sundancer
    Twin 350's, V drives
    1994 18' Bluewater bowrider
    I bought mine from Lowes, it sure is expensive.
    Around here it's $90.00 a gallon, if your a vet you can get a 10% discount.
     
  11. wayne0

    wayne0 Active Member

    379
    May 4, 2014
    Newburyport, Ma.
    2000 340 Sundancer
    Twin 7.4 ltr.V-drives
    I just did mine with white elastomeric roof coating ( $25 a Gal. at Home Depot ) as mentioned in previous threads. We'll see how it turns out.
     
  12. wayne0

    wayne0 Active Member

    379
    May 4, 2014
    Newburyport, Ma.
    2000 340 Sundancer
    Twin 7.4 ltr.V-drives
    Looks great! Bringing it down to the boat tonight. I will post results. (at the end of the season)
     
  13. LUnaCY

    LUnaCY Member

    71
    Aug 28, 2018
    Afton, MN
    310 Sundancer 2002. Mercruiser 5.0 MPI Bravo III
    Mercruiser 5.0 MPI Bravo III
    I just did a single carpet with white rustoleum “flex seal”. same product...$10 each can instead of $13. 2 cans for this small helm carpet. I used white in case it flakes. Ill let you know how this one holds up and then do my others. I used duct tape around the edges then sprayed on a sheet of plywood. Overspray wasnt bad at all.
     

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  14. wayne0

    wayne0 Active Member

    379
    May 4, 2014
    Newburyport, Ma.
    2000 340 Sundancer
    Twin 7.4 ltr.V-drives
    So far, so good. Took it up to check and all is good. It seems to be the cheap solution! Goes on like thick latex paint. I used a roller.
     
  15. duckmnn

    duckmnn Member

    540
    Jul 21, 2010
    Grafton IL where the IL and Mississippi rivers com
    270sundancer 1996
    454 B3
    I made new carpet for my cockpit. Used home burbur carpet . Had it binded . Then 2 coats of white flex seal with a roller. It Looks great and I’m in whole project less then 250$
     
  16. stevediarchangel

    stevediarchangel Member SILVER Sponsor

    168
    Jun 28, 2015
    New York
    99 340 Sundancer
    7.4 Mercruiser w V drives
    Bought the flex seal in spray and liquid. Home Depot didn't have the Rustoleum in white in a can...go figure. I will follow the advise above, high pressure hose and a stiff brush. Going to try and roll it on. Thanks for the advise!
     
  17. LUnaCY

    LUnaCY Member

    71
    Aug 28, 2018
    Afton, MN
    310 Sundancer 2002. Mercruiser 5.0 MPI Bravo III
    Mercruiser 5.0 MPI Bravo III
    One more thing i did with the spray...

    The first carpet I sprayed until completely coated. Took a lot of product. The next two I sprayed on heavy and used a cheap 4-6” plastic spackle knife to spread it. Worked great, used a lot less product, but it doesnt look as nice from the bottom. Let them air out a few days as mine were pretty stinky from fumes. You can repeat until covered to your liking.

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    Even though they turned out usable for a few years we will replace them this year to update the look. Not sure what color though.

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    Last edited: Oct 16, 2018
  18. domer94

    domer94 Member

    97
    May 14, 2017
    ny tristate
    1995 330da
    twin 454 inboard v drives
    flexseal… must be made out of the most expensive substance on earth... but it works. just be careful when you are flowing it on , it may bleed through the other side where the backing is completely off
     
  19. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Well-Known Member

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    2000 Cruisers 3870
    97 270 Sundancer
    85 Sea Ray Monaco 197
    8.2 Mercs,
    7.4 BII
    260hp Alpha 1
    Set the in the sun and see how hot they get. Some colors get hotter than others. I would let them sit in the sun for 30 minutes and then use a IR thermometer to compare. Of course you will end up with the color the Admiral chooses. LOL

    MM
     
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  20. LUnaCY

    LUnaCY Member

    71
    Aug 28, 2018
    Afton, MN
    310 Sundancer 2002. Mercruiser 5.0 MPI Bravo III
    Mercruiser 5.0 MPI Bravo III
    True on the color choice...especially since shes an interior designer. But she is very aware of the heat and wouldnt allow seadeck for that reason.
     
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