Bypassing/ignoring low coolant pressure sensor guardian mode?

Discussion in 'General Maintenance/Repair Questions' started by Jmangus22, Mar 26, 2023.

  1. Jmangus22

    Jmangus22 Member

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    Looks like I have a coolant/water pressure sensor that has failed and is reading 0 psi at all times.

    For some reason this doesn't cause any problems under 1200 rpms.. but above it the engine goes into guardian mode and wont run at high rpm.

    The water TEMP is a steady 145 - 160 and it's a freshwater cooled engine..

    The problem is the repair place it needs to go to today or tomorrow is a MUCH LONGER trip at 1100 rpm vs 4000.

    Is there any way to tell the computer to ignore this sensor? I imagine this isn't the kind of sensor you can just unplug... because it NEEDS to get some kind of pressure reading..

    It's on a 383 stroker FWC mercruiser motor.. thank you for any help!
     
  2. scoflaw

    scoflaw Well-Known Member

    Aug 10, 2011
    cape cod mass, cape coral fl
    1999 Powerquest legend 260 sx 502 mag
    2005 Baja 242 islander 496
    502 mpi Bravo 1
    496 mag B1
    Buy a new sensor, common failure and easy to replace.
     
  3. Bill Curtis

    Bill Curtis Well-Known Member

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    Mar 24, 2022
    Eastern NC
    '95 220 Overnighter
    454 Mag. Bravo3 w/ 2.0:1 gears and 27 pitch props
    454 Mag Bravo3. 2.0:1 ratio gears w/ 27 pitch props
    As Scoflaw stated, sensor replacement is easy and fairly cheap fix if you now what you are doing.

    I would think a resister in there that resembles the operating resistance of that sender could fake out the ECM.

    Those sensors work on a 5 volt ref signal, through resistance, then to ground in ECM. ECM then reads the minute current / ref voltage through circuit.

    I personally wouldn't do it because of risk of doing it wrong and trashing an ECU.

    Quick video on replacing the sensor
     
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  4. Jmangus22

    Jmangus22 Member

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    That would be the easy way.. the problem is I'm on an island and parts will take a while.. was hoping to bring it to the painting place today. If not tomorrow will have to suffice. Looking at car parts as a temp solution now.
     
  5. Jmangus22

    Jmangus22 Member

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    Temp sensor is fine. Need the pressure sensor..
     
  6. hughespat57

    hughespat57 Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Sep 25, 2016
    Rock Hill, SC
    300 Sundancer 1994, trailered tri-axle LoadRite roller
    Mercruiser 5.7 260HP Alpha One Gen II, twin
    If you can get a hold of a potentiometer that is around 1-2k ohms connect it across the 5v and sensor terminals on the plug. Adjust to show around 5 psi on the engine.
     
  7. Jmangus22

    Jmangus22 Member

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  8. scoflaw

    scoflaw Well-Known Member

    Aug 10, 2011
    cape cod mass, cape coral fl
    1999 Powerquest legend 260 sx 502 mag
    2005 Baja 242 islander 496
    502 mpi Bravo 1
    496 mag B1
  9. Jmangus22

    Jmangus22 Member

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    Jul 1, 2020
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    If I just unplug it, will it give the beep every 2 mins? I saw a post that someone had to do that when they were 25 miles out to sea.. That would be fine... the part that isn't fine is 1200 rpms and blaring constant beep.. might just have to try that..
     
  10. Jmangus22

    Jmangus22 Member

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    One other weird data point. The code is not thrown when in N - it will run at 2k rpms as normal with no code thrown.. but the moment you try and do it in gear it throws it.

    Neutral position sensor and drive oil lube level sensor can be disconnected and the same thing happens.

    The coolant pressure sensor shows zero psi in Vessel view, which is why I'm focused on that one. Why would it make a difference if it was in N or FWD ?
     
  11. Jmangus22

    Jmangus22 Member

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    Thank you for your post and the video. Saved the day.. dropped it into a cup of salt terminator x and 10 mins later we had a working boat!!

    Going to order the correct part and move on.. super quick save though and much appreciated!!
     
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  12. scoflaw

    scoflaw Well-Known Member

    Aug 10, 2011
    cape cod mass, cape coral fl
    1999 Powerquest legend 260 sx 502 mag
    2005 Baja 242 islander 496
    502 mpi Bravo 1
    496 mag B1
    Good deal love a happy ending
     
  13. Bill Curtis

    Bill Curtis Well-Known Member

    727
    Mar 24, 2022
    Eastern NC
    '95 220 Overnighter
    454 Mag. Bravo3 w/ 2.0:1 gears and 27 pitch props
    454 Mag Bravo3. 2.0:1 ratio gears w/ 27 pitch props
    I know. I saw that and corrected it pretty quickly. The corrections talk about pressure.
     
  14. Bill Curtis

    Bill Curtis Well-Known Member

    727
    Mar 24, 2022
    Eastern NC
    '95 220 Overnighter
    454 Mag. Bravo3 w/ 2.0:1 gears and 27 pitch props
    454 Mag Bravo3. 2.0:1 ratio gears w/ 27 pitch props
    It is a 3 wire sensor, so I would be very careful on how it's being done.
     
  15. Bill Curtis

    Bill Curtis Well-Known Member

    727
    Mar 24, 2022
    Eastern NC
    '95 220 Overnighter
    454 Mag. Bravo3 w/ 2.0:1 gears and 27 pitch props
    454 Mag Bravo3. 2.0:1 ratio gears w/ 27 pitch props
  16. Bill Curtis

    Bill Curtis Well-Known Member

    727
    Mar 24, 2022
    Eastern NC
    '95 220 Overnighter
    454 Mag. Bravo3 w/ 2.0:1 gears and 27 pitch props
    454 Mag Bravo3. 2.0:1 ratio gears w/ 27 pitch props
    Outstanding....
     

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