Buying 1992 330 with v-drive gaz??

Discussion in 'Newbie Lounge - NEW' started by comix, Aug 25, 2013.

  1. comix

    comix New Member

    Aug 13, 2013
    ok second chance.. when i read my first post , i diden t realize who bad i ask the question:smt021, now i will not take my cell to post and read before thx everybody, your not so bad and i will not cry anymore ;-)
  2. magstang1

    magstang1 Active Member

    May 30, 2010
    Lake St.Clair
    1998 31 Sedan Bridge
    Twin 350 Marine Power
  3. tdschafer

    tdschafer Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Aug 24, 2009
    Long island , NY
    1997 330 sundancer
    twin 454's, Carb, V-Drives
    Btw: That is a nice looking boat! Good luck with her!

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  4. IanBat

    IanBat New Member

    Nov 19, 2011
    Sydney, Australia
    Pro Tournament 36' 1999
    Twin Cummins 5.9L 370hp B Series
    Congratulations and good luck with her. And toughen up, I put a pause in my sentence, there was no malice in it.

    However it is one of the most misconstrued facts of owning a large boat. the fuel use/cost.

    I have a 94 330, twin 7.4's with outdrives, volvo duoprops. It likes a drink.
    To fill both tanks up in Australia from empty is around $1500.
    In July chasing Tuna and whale watching, we burnt around $2200-2500 in fuel.

    Compared to many people out here, I use my boat, I am on it every weekend, we boat 12 months of the year. With theTuna fishing this year (2 ocean runs a week apart of 160 and 170km) I will burn about $5k in fuel.

    However Marina fees $9K, Slipp and antifoul $2K, Polishing and detail (I physically cant do it) $2K. Maintenace $3K Insurance $1.5K Buying Toys- Hole in the Water etc etc $4K.......Thats $17.5K so $5K in fuel, all I'm saying here is that if I focus on the fuel use then I'm kidding myself.

    If the boat doesnt have it, fit fuel flow meters, 1 per engine. I have the Northstar Guages. There is a huge difference in fuel burn in mine between 15-19Kn and 21-25. On a trip I can see how much I am actually burning. The difference on the tuna trips was amazing, the first trip I blasted out 60Km at 25Kn and same back in. 2nd trip we went further were out longer, ran out and back at 18Kn and use a lot less fuel.

    On discussing the run on a fishing forum though, the fuel burn was comparative to a few of the bigger Diesel Flybridges. And with 4 people sharingf the cost it was far cheaper than a charter

    Running around the bay with my wife I spend a lot of time at 7-10Kn, she prefers it, it is relaxing and the fuel burn is minimal.

    To cap off, dont focus on the fuel use, it will just spoil your enjoyment. We have done Sydney Harbour twice now, the first time with my wife and daughter for New Years Eve, we covered around 70Nm. We anchored 100m off afireworks barge, and had a straight view up the harbour of the 7 barges, taking in the Harbour Bridge and Opera House. We slept the night and woke to one of the most spectacular views in the world. Fuel cost around $600. But you try and get a Hotel room in Sydney with a view of the Harbour on New Years eve for under $1500 per night and they will have a minimum 3 night booking.
  5. dpmulvey

    dpmulvey New Member

    Dec 19, 2007
    Homeport: Charles City, VA
    1999/2007 330 Sundancer Hardtop.
    6.2 Merc Horixons
    1.5:1 Velvet Drives
    Nice ride. Some questions. Are the engines original? If so, what horsepower or KW are they. I think the older 5.7's will really have to work to keep her on plane.

    I have 6.2's in Saint Max at 320HP per side. They weigh about the same as your 5.7's. On my maiden voyage home I could barely get the nose over at 3800 RPM and full tab. If your trim tabs are original 22"x9" I would highly recommend enlarging them to 22"x18" and put drop fins of a couple of inches on each side. Also, get your props tuned at a shop that uses Hale MRI or Prop Scan computer systems to reconfigure props.

    You will have to gather a lot of information to get it done right, however, the work pays off in saved fuel and quieter more level running. If you decide to do either, let me know and I can help you.

    Welcome and good luck.
  6. CV-23

    CV-23 New Member

    Jun 25, 2010
    Williamsport, PA
    1990 270 Sundancer, 2003 Ford Excursion 4x4 Limited
    454 merCruiser w/Bravo 1
    Very nice boat!
  7. GrandMaster

    GrandMaster New Member

    Mar 27, 2012
    Fort Lauderdale, FL
    1995 Sundancer 290
    Generator, AC
    Twin Mercruiser 4.3L
    At least you didnt call them Tampons :smt101
  8. comix

    comix New Member

    Aug 13, 2013
    im not that much concerne about the gaz, i juste want some input or idea with that, i like the idea of fuel flow, give money for gaz is ok, but if i can control and buy more wine its better lol
    Last edited: Aug 27, 2013
  9. Shock_Loaded

    Shock_Loaded New Member

    May 2, 2013
    Lake Norman, NC
    1990 310 Sundancer
    454's V drive 4kw westerbeke
    I have the same boat with 7.4 and v drives. Around .75 gallon per mile on fuel. Much better if you set them on 1200 and ride.
    As was said above, if you are going to ride loaded down buy some bigger trim tabs, you will need them with small blocks. She is heavy.
    She looks like a nice boat, enjoy!
  10. bahamabreisus

    bahamabreisus Well-Known Member

    Oct 25, 2007
    Hampstead NC
    500 dancer, previous 420,390,300 dancers
    detriot 8v92
    Good looking boat
  11. rondds

    rondds Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Oct 3, 2006
    Jersey Shore
    2001 380DA
    Merc 8.1s (2008)...Hurth ZF 63 V-drives...WB 7.0 BCGD (2013), Garmin 8208 & 740 MFDs, GMR 24xHD dome
    Could be using translator software, which screws up idiomatic expressions. Hopefull our north-of-the border friend will hang around. Congrats on your purchase Comix and I don't think you will notice much difference in fuel consumption btwn outdrives and inboards.
  12. MonacoMike

    MonacoMike Well-Known Member

    Sep 15, 2009
    Indiana lakes and Lake Michigan
    2000 Cruisers 3870
    97 270 Sundancer
    85 Sea Ray Monaco 197
    8.2 Mercs,
    7.4 BII
    260hp Alpha 1
    In the winter CSR members rely on resurrection and amuse themselves with dead, months old posts...

  13. ZZ13

    ZZ13 Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Nov 25, 2009
    Lady's Island, SC
    2001 400 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins 450 Diamond
    I love "gaz". I am going to start using it. May even replace my use of "gassers" with "gazzers".
  14. redneck joe

    redneck joe New Member

    Nov 2, 2008
    1979 2357 Montego
    2003 3500 5.9 Dodge
    260 HP Mercruiser, new SEI outdrive
    As a serial mis-speller aka bad typist - the z is very close to the s. On my other forum the daily challenge is to interpret what the hell i'm trying to say. When i'm on other forums I try (try being operative word) to sound semi-intelligent. Add auto-correct and you end up with:

    Nov 25, 2013 at 6:57pm redneck joe said:
    nut not used bun once or twice by the time she dies.
  15. Creekwood

    Creekwood Well-Known Member

    Apr 26, 2009
    Oakville and Georgian Bay, Ontario
    '97 330 Sundancer
    2X 454 w/ vDrives
    Folks, in Quebeqois french, the word gas is Gaz. Its the word that is on on the "gaz" stations in Quebec. I guess we Canadians are more atuned to the nuances of having two officlal languages. If you have never visited Montreal or Quebec City you would not know that. If you have not visitied Montreal or Quebec City, your should. Beautiful cities with lots of history and great ambiance. Like a small slice of Europe but closer to home.
  16. src

    src New Member

    Feb 13, 2012
    Richmond, VA
    2000 310 Sundancer
    1997 175BR
    310: Twin 454 Mercruiser w/Bravo III
    175: Mercruiser 3.0

    You can lecture about dual-language awareness and how "attuned" you are to the more sophisticated Quebecois lifestyle, but this is an English language forum and when you type the rest of your message in English we are generally going to expect it all to be that way. Also, you can't expect the rest of the population to know about the linguistic idiosyncrasies of every particular region, much less be sure to check the location of every poster we reply to. So, yeah, when someone starts using non-standard spellings it will be noticed, and frequently picked on (this is a fairly banter-heavy group).

    I'm sure if someone decided to discuss the "pop" they drink on their boat, there's going to be someone ready and willing to inform them that it's "soda". That's just life on the internet.
  17. Creekwood

    Creekwood Well-Known Member

    Apr 26, 2009
    Oakville and Georgian Bay, Ontario
    '97 330 Sundancer
    2X 454 w/ vDrives
    Naw. Not a lecture and I didn't say it was more sophisticated. Just an explanation about why the OP was saying gaz. Gawd I hate the winter. All the northern boaters get so sensitive and angry.
  18. redneck joe

    redneck joe New Member

    Nov 2, 2008
    1979 2357 Montego
    2003 3500 5.9 Dodge
    260 HP Mercruiser, new SEI outdrive

    dude - it's called Coke. Then you tell them what kind of Coke, like a Mt Dew, Sprite, etc...
  19. src

    src New Member

    Feb 13, 2012
    Richmond, VA
    2000 310 Sundancer
    1997 175BR
    310: Twin 454 Mercruiser w/Bravo III
    175: Mercruiser 3.0
    Except I grew up in "Have an RC" country. Everybody is wrong.
  20. Gofirstclass

    Gofirstclass Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 20, 2010
    Tri Cities, WA
    1995 550 Sedan Bridge,
    2010 Boston Whaler 130 Super Sport,
    1981 Boston Whaler 130 Sport,
    CAT 3406C's, 580hp.
    Comix, welcome to CSR. That's a very nice looking boat you have and I'm sure you'll have a lot of fun on it.

    To many boaters, fuel is the cost they see when they use the boat so it's the one that is in their mind a lot. When cruising they forget about the moorage costs, insurance, licensing, etc., they just focus on fuel.

    I had a 1996 330 with 5.7L's in it and had a FloScan fuel monitoring system in it. I found I got right at 1nm per gallon when running on plane and also when idling along at hull speed. The boat seemed to have a sweet spot between 3200-3600 rpm's and that's where I usually cruised it. The more fuel and water and gear I had on board, the higher the rpm's needed to hit that sweet spot.

    Once you get to know your boat and learn the sounds of it you'll find out where its sweet spot is and you'll be able to sync the props and run at the sweet spot rpm's all the time. I almost never ran my boat at hull speed, preferring to get to my destination and relax.

    Once you get used to your boat, post some pics so we all can enjoy it. And again, welcome aboard.

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