bow sprayer stainless steel hose leaks on 2000 240 sundeck

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Slrademacher

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Jul 11, 2007
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Wisconsin
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2000 240 Sundeck
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5.7L Mercruiser w/Bravo III
The hose leaks right at the end with the connection to the sprayer. I disconnected the sprayer and placed my thumb over the end of the tube and water sprayed out all around that end. Based on that it looks like the hose needs replacement. It's that stainless steel 8' length hose and I can't find anything on-line. Haven't asked the dealer yet. Actually, the hose seems a lot like the metal hose on my sink faucet with the pull out sprayer. Can I replace that hose or am I going to have to replace the hose and sprayer. The new hose would have to fit with the 15mm quick connect from the plastic water hose.
 
The bow hose on my 2000 started leaking within 2 years of the boat being new. Searay sent me all new hoses for all 4 on the boat. I called to find out if there was a problem because it looked like the lining had pulled out. Dealer was supposed to fix it or replace it as long it was no more than $25-$30. They replaced it for $120.

Searay told me they should have know because they'd just gotten resolution form the vendor who had a problem with the hoses but hadn't found a fix yet. I got lucky because they'd just gotten a bunch of replacements from the vendor.

You can call Searay to find out who the vendor is for replacements. You can check with a dealer also, but I'm sure they'll be high. This far along I'm sure they won't just replace them. They said I was lucky because most failures happened within a few months of new.
 
Here is the deal, the stainless hose is just a sleeve w/ a rubber hose insert. SR doen't have replacement hoses available (at least not last year when I had the problem.

The solution is pretty easy if the leak is near the end.

Take the nozzle off, you will have a flat end piece with a hole in the middle (mine was bronze). Look closely and you'll see it has a piece that slides over the top of the end piece w/ a flat collar below the lip of the bronze piece. The compression piece is a light weight metal so be very careful at this point. You need to force the collar back down the hose. Take your time. You will then be able to take the end piece off and find your leak in the hose.

Mine was about an inch back from the end of the hose, I just cut the rubber hose in front of the leak, reinstalled it on the bronze end piece and carefully pushed the compression collar back up. Put the nozzle back on.

Tada! 15 minutes, free fix.
 
as per your question on the inner hose being shorter... it shouldn't be an issue if you are only taking some off of the end. The only problem would be if someone pulled it all of the way out and was really yanking on it.

My bow sprayer is so darn long I don't think it will ever be a problem.
 
So you're saying you stretched the rubber inner lining so that after being cut shorter than the metal outer tube it still reached the connection with the nozzle? I guess I thought both were 8' so if you cut the rubber tube shorter it would not reach all the way to the end of the steel 8' section.
 
I didn't need to stretch it at all, I guess either there is some extra hose in there. Keep in mind the stainless is just lipstick on a pig, it doesn't attach to the inner rubber hose at all.
 
Hmm, I tried the fixing it thing on mine at first but it would not stay secure. That was the core of the issue from the vendor at that time. I still have the old one(s) and I think I still have 1 new one. I may try to fix the old one again and see if it stays.

I need to replace the sprayed in the cockpit sink anyway. It's not an idea spray pattern for a sink, but the holes are clogged up with mineral deposit. :wink:
 
Hmm, I tried the fixing it thing on mine at first but it would not stay secure. That was the core of the issue from the vendor at that time. I still have the old one(s) and I think I still have 1 new one. I may try to fix the old one again and see if it stays.

I need to replace the sprayed in the cockpit sink anyway. It's not an idea spray pattern for a sink, but the holes are clogged up with mineral deposit. :wink:
 
Mine has held for a season and a half. On your sprayer, just soak it in vinegar and the deposits should clear up.
 
Can't hurt to try to adjust the lipstick on the old pig before I buy a brand new rig.
 
RT 240SD said:
Here is the deal, the stainless hose is just a sleeve w/ a rubber hose insert. SR doen't have replacement hoses available (at least not last year when I had the problem.

The solution is pretty easy if the leak is near the end.

Take the nozzle off, you will have a flat end piece with a hole in the middle (mine was bronze). Look closely and you'll see it has a piece that slides over the top of the end piece w/ a flat collar below the lip of the bronze piece. The compression piece is a light weight metal so be very careful at this point. You need to force the collar back down the hose. Take your time. You will then be able to take the end piece off and find your leak in the hose.

Mine was about an inch back from the end of the hose, I just cut the rubber hose in front of the leak, reinstalled it on the bronze end piece and carefully pushed the compression collar back up. Put the nozzle back on.

Tada! 15 minutes, free fix.
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actually is not true
there is no insert inside hose (at least original one)
it is more like "Z or dual L" shaped steel strip coiled the way that each time it overlaps one layer over another and seals itself (this is reasons why old hoses leak allover)
this type construction let hose to be very flexible
 
boatmailster said:
actually is not true
there is no insert inside hose (at least original one)
it is more like "Z or dual L" shaped steel strip coiled the way that each time it overlaps one layer over another and seals itself (this is reasons why old hoses leak allover)
this type construction let hose to be very flexible
Click to expand...

That's what I remember of the original. I remember thinking it was a crazy design not to have a something like a compression ring or something that would actually hold it together.

I'll be the new design(s) are the ones that can be fixed. When I thought I fixed the 1st one, it was obvious it was not going to stay, and it didn't. But I wonder if we could still find a way to fix it? Not that it's worth the trouble, but might be fun. :grin:
 
boatmailster said:
actually is not true
there is no insert inside hose (at least original one)
it is more like "Z or dual L" shaped steel strip coiled the way that each time it overlaps one layer over another and seals itself (this is reasons why old hoses leak allover)
this type construction let hose to be very flexible
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Well, my original hoses in my 2000 240SD were fixed using the method I put above. Perhaps the hose design is different on different boats.

I personally performed this surgery and it worked. True.
 
Searay Jim said:
boatmailster said:
actually is not true
there is no insert inside hose (at least original one)
it is more like "Z or dual L" shaped steel strip coiled the way that each time it overlaps one layer over another and seals itself (this is reasons why old hoses leak allover)
this type construction let hose to be very flexible
Click to expand...

That's what I remember of the original. I remember thinking it was a crazy design not to have a something like a compression ring or something that would actually hold it together.

I'll be the new design(s) are the ones that can be fixed. When I thought I fixed the 1st one, it was obvious it was not going to stay, and it didn't. But I wonder if we could still find a way to fix it? Not that it's worth the trouble, but might be fun. :grin:
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they make PVC replacement hose
doesn't look nice like your stainless steel one and doesn't slide inside thru-hole fitting very smooth but lasts forever.
 
Apparently the local dealer has the replacement part for $120. Not sure it's worth it for that.
 
I took the hose off and examined it. RT 240SD had it right. There is a blue rubber tube inside of the metal tube. The end of the rubber tube at the nozzle end had come off the fitting and was just loose in the metal tube. I reinserted the end fitting into the rubber tube and then pushed it back into the compression fitting. I hope that fixes it. I'll try it out the next time we are out. I also had bought a $24 shower head add on that has a 6' hose that's SS and fits the Sea Ray plumbing so if the original still leaks I'll use that newone and sacrifice some length.
 
Vindication baby, vindication baby.

Hope it works for you as well as it has for me.

Now where is that knock on wood emoticon?
 
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