Best Sundancer between 38 and 42

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  1. Mightychan

    Mightychan Member SILVER Sponsor

    92
    Oct 8, 2016
    Panama City FL
    2005 DA 420, AB Dink
    Cummins 6CTA
    Hello all, I currently own a 32 Sundancer and want to move up. I am looking for more room, and want diesel power. I will probably buy a boat between 10 and 15 years old. Of these boats, are there any that are better than others, or any boats that I should avoid?
    Also, I notice that a decent number of these boats have hardtops. I think I would like the hardtop, but I really don't know the pros and cons. Discuss?
    Thanks, Chan
     
  2. Blueone

    Blueone Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    832
    Jan 24, 2007
    St Clair Shores, Michigan
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's
    I would say the 2005 and newer 420/440 Sundancer. I think value/size this is the best bang for your buck in a diesel. Definitely hard top, I don't think you have a choice though in 05 and newer..
     
  3. superwa

    superwa Member

    48
    Jul 27, 2013
    Rhode Island
    2001 Sea Ray Sundancer 380
    Mercruiser horizon 8.1S
    Agreed, older ones they add canvas and wish they had the hard top! (Or at least I do)
     
  4. Ididntdoit

    Ididntdoit Well-Known Member

    Dec 5, 2007
    East Coast Florida
    300 Sundancer
    5.0MPI Bravo III
    agree on the '05 420 with cummins power and a hard top.....should be able to get a nice one for around 200k options to look for are bow thruster (not really needed) and cockpit air (not 100% needed in RI) If 200k is too much the 03/04 models w/o a hardtop are the same boat for much less money......still too pricey? try an '04/'05 or so 38.......42'LOA and at the end of the run they were available with cummins power (earlier ones were 3116 Cat).......if your dead set on a hardtop the '06 up 380 (actually a replacement for the previous 360) is a great boat, but diesel examples (yanmar power) are rare......Kinda skipped the '05 and up 390/400 but prices for nice diesel examples often approach similar year 42/44s........have fun with the search!
     
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  5. Great Lakes

    Great Lakes Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    242
    Oct 11, 2016
    Lake St. Clair (MacRay Harbor)
    2005 390 Sundancer
    8.1
    I agree with Blueone, 420/440’s for sure. My next one will be a 06-08 440.
     
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  6. J.Wilt

    J.Wilt Member SILVER Sponsor

    671
    Jan 29, 2010
    W. Mich. / Lake Michigan
    420 Sundancer 2005
    Cumming 6cta V Drives
    Highfield 310 , 15hp Mercury
    I moved up from an 2003 320 Sundancer to a 2005 420 Sundancer. Really love the extra room with doors on forward and rear staterooms + two heads. With the twin Cummings it’s one of the best designed boats SeaRay ever made. Definitely find one with a hard top!
     
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  7. Jaybeaux

    Jaybeaux Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    189
    Jan 3, 2016
    Upper Potomac River
    420 Sundancer 2004
    Naught On Call
    Cummins 6CTA-8.3's with V-Drives
    9KW Onan Genset
    I have a 2004 420 with twin Cummins 6CTA-8.3s, all mechanical engines (no common rail, no computer). As others have mentioned, the hardtop is wonderful. It is what allows me to be on the water more as I am a bit "sun challenged".

    There is a ton of information on this site. I love the economy of these engines paired with a 45 foot boat weighing in (dry) at 22,500 pounds. Cruising at 2200 rpm, at about 25 +/- mph, consuming 24 gph. That's essentially 1.0 mpg.

    Keep us posted. Good luck with the search!

    Jaybeaux
     
  8. NotHerDecision

    NotHerDecision Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 28, 2016
    Houston, Texas
    2001 Sea Ray 460 Sundancer
    2014 Seadoo 155 LTD
    2105 Seadoo 130 SE
    2013 Mercury Dinghy
    Cummins 6CTA 8.3L
    Of course I am a little biased but... if you can swing the dockage then why not look for a 460? Same engines and economy with more room. The 01’s to 05’s have hardtops and can be had under 200k.

    We are not too far away if you want to go for a ride one weekend... better yet Frank Webster is an hour away... once you see that 450 of his you may fall in love ;).
     
  9. Mightychan

    Mightychan Member SILVER Sponsor

    92
    Oct 8, 2016
    Panama City FL
    2005 DA 420, AB Dink
    Cummins 6CTA
    Notherdecision, a 46 would be great but would be tight in my slip. I looked at a 42 with an extended platform today, 50 loa, and I am not sure if I have the room for her without changing marinas .

    Actually, Frank is only about 20 minutes away from me. I am afraid that, if I see his boat, a craving is gonna be flung on me...
     
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  10. Mightychan

    Mightychan Member SILVER Sponsor

    92
    Oct 8, 2016
    Panama City FL
    2005 DA 420, AB Dink
    Cummins 6CTA
    Another question about these boats. I just realized today that the 42 draws 40 inches due to the props not being in pockets. Is this true of all the boats in this size range? I sure do like the 32 inch draft of my 32. Thanks
     
  11. rh320

    rh320 Member

    92
    Mar 2, 2018
    Chesapeake Bay
    2005 320 Sundancer
    350 Mercruiser
    I have a friend selling a 2004 420 for $165k. 6CTA Cummins with 1k hours. It is an immaculate boat and very well cared for! I would have bought it but it is way to big of a step up for me considering my previous boats were bowriders which is why I settled on a 320. Its next buyer will be one lucky boat owner! I would love to own that particular boat or one of that similar year/model one day.
     
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  12. HUMPH

    HUMPH Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Nov 4, 2009
    SF BAY AREA
    2003 410DA,
    2004 C14 Caribe
    CAT 3126TA's 350HP/
    50HP Honda
    Depends on how you will use her. The 2003 and newer 420DA with hardtop is great but if you need a touch more room go with a 2005 460DA. My 410 is basically the same as the 420 but more efficient and no hardtop.
     
  13. Mightychan

    Mightychan Member SILVER Sponsor

    92
    Oct 8, 2016
    Panama City FL
    2005 DA 420, AB Dink
    Cummins 6CTA
    rh320, where is that boat located?
     
  14. rh320

    rh320 Member

    92
    Mar 2, 2018
    Chesapeake Bay
    2005 320 Sundancer
    350 Mercruiser
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  15. Doc O Rock

    Doc O Rock Member GOLD Sponsor

    215
    Mar 23, 2016
    Lake St Clair, Belle Maer Harbor
    1999 380 Sundancer
    twin 7.4 Merc
    Why? My first boat was a 99 380 DA. A bigger boat is not harder to run. I was a sailor before and never owned a power boat.
     
  16. rh320

    rh320 Member

    92
    Mar 2, 2018
    Chesapeake Bay
    2005 320 Sundancer
    350 Mercruiser
    I hope to make that step up in a year or two.
    Thats what Ive been told. I am sure I will end up making the jump to the 45-50' range in a year or two at most. The 320 just felt insanely comfortable for me and the perfect size. I got one hell of deal so it def made the most sense.
     
  17. Bob Fawcett

    Bob Fawcett New Member

    1
    May 8, 2018
    420 aft cabin Searay Cummings diesels
    Cummings 450's diesel
    If your friend's 42 is still om the market have him contact me. Bob. Fawcettfam@aol.com
     
  18. fwebster

    fwebster Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor PLATINUM Sponsor

    Oct 6, 2006
    Middle Tennessee ; Panama City Beach, FL
    1996 450DA
    3116 Caterpillars
    Mightychan,

    There is a 420DA for sale in PCB that has every possible option......6CTA's, blue hull, hard top, rigid frame aft enclosure, about a 1.0 mil watt stereo and it is in immacualte condition. The owner has cared for her and she has been under a covered slip behind the owner's house since new. She sold twice, but one engine has failed a mechanical survey and the problem has been evaluated by the guys at Treasure Island. The questionable engine will need to be rebuilt at some point (estimated @ $6,500 - $8,000 depending upon what the mechanics find when they tear down the engine) but the seller needs to sell the boat and is is probably waiting on an offer he can work with either by handling the rebulid or by negotiating the selling price to cover it.

    I'll be in town for the next couple of weeks...... at the marina or at the island nearly every day....stop by if you have time.
     
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  19. superwa

    superwa Member

    48
    Jul 27, 2013
    Rhode Island
    2001 Sea Ray Sundancer 380
    Mercruiser horizon 8.1S
    I went from a kayak to a 380. So happy I did. I have no patient for the whole upgrade every two years thing!
     
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  20. Blueone

    Blueone Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    832
    Jan 24, 2007
    St Clair Shores, Michigan
    2004 420 Sundancer
    Cummins 6CTA 450's
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    This response is a bit late... The 40" draft is not a problem...when we anchor out I have the depth sounder set to the tip of the props... When we are in known sandy bottoms I anchor in 1' and everyone is happy being able to touch the bottom. Yes 32" would be better but but 45' x 14' kind of makes up for it... Here is a pic of the "sort of pockets" .... Good luck with the search

    I need to read a bit closer you already have the boat?!!?
     
    Last edited: May 8, 2018

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