Autopilot next on the list

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  1. dvx216

    dvx216 Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Feb 1, 2012
    Catawaba Island/Orrville,Oh.
    340 Sundancer 2001
    8.1s 370 v drv.
    So my 2001 340Da. with 8.1s V drvs. needs a autopilot. My MFD is a Garmin 1042xsv what do I need to get.
     
  2. Jaybeaux

    Jaybeaux Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 3, 2016
    Upper Potomac River
    2006 Sea Ray 48
    Naught On Call
    Cummins QSC-540s with V-Drives
    11 KW Onan Genset
    Get on the horn with BOE Marine. They sponsor this site. Definitely get a Garmin AP IMO. I went with the fancy one complete with the Garmin smart hydraulic pump. Easy install, set up and calibration especially if you already have a NMEA 2000 backbone extended to your engine room. If not, you should do it now and it’s not that difficult. If you don’t want to pop for the new hydraulic pump, and you have an existing AP system - assuming Raymarine here- you can reuse the Raymarine pump and save a few bucks"

    Start with BOE Marine (866-735-5926). Ask for Emily

    Jaybeaux
     
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  3. dtfeld

    dtfeld Water Contrails GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 5, 2016
    Milton, GA
    410 Sundancer
    2001
    12" Axiom and 9" Axiom+ MFD
    Cat 3126 V-Drives
    Does it already have hydraulic steering? If you do, the Garmin AP is really nice, and a reasonable DIY project.

    There was a good write up about a year ago, adding the Garmin autopilot, splicing the hydraulic lines, electronics, commisioning etc, from start to finish. I'll see if I can find the link.
     
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  4. FootballFan

    FootballFan Well-Known Member

    Jun 20, 2012
    Florida
    Marquis 59
    MTU Series 60
    I have Garmin MFD. When I first got the boat, it had a RM AP. After the RM AP failed, I switched the full system over to Garmin.

    Highly recommend matching the AP with the MFD. Opens up more features for the autopilot.
     
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  5. SKybolt

    SKybolt Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Nov 11, 2014
    Kent Narrows, MD
    Reel Nauti
    460 EC
    Detroit 6v92TA
    (Low profile's)
    Alison Gears
    Westerbeke
    12.5kw Genset
    DO you already have an auotpilot and it died? Or are you looking to add a new one to the boat for the first time?

    If it is for the first time I would go with a Garmin as there are some really nice features that you can get with the Garmin unit over the Raymarine one.

    Garmin has two very nice features over the competition. First is the shadow drive that allows you steer the boat even while the AP is engaged. Second is the ability to turn on auto accept for the next waypoint when using routes. No need to press any buttons to make the turn.

    If you already have a type 1 pump then your half way there. If not you may want to investigate pricing on a reactor 40 system with shadow drive and smart pump.
     
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  6. dvx216

    dvx216 Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Feb 1, 2012
    Catawaba Island/Orrville,Oh.
    340 Sundancer 2001
    8.1s 370 v drv.
    I guess I should have added that info . Currently our boat doesn.t have AP.
     
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  7. Jaybeaux

    Jaybeaux Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 3, 2016
    Upper Potomac River
    2006 Sea Ray 48
    Naught On Call
    Cummins QSC-540s with V-Drives
    11 KW Onan Genset
  8. SKybolt

    SKybolt Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Nov 11, 2014
    Kent Narrows, MD
    Reel Nauti
    460 EC
    Detroit 6v92TA
    (Low profile's)
    Alison Gears
    Westerbeke
    12.5kw Genset
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  9. bfernald0

    bfernald0 Active Member

    349
    May 18, 2020
    Marina del Rey, California
    340 Sundancer 2001
    8.2L Mercruiser ECT Horizons
    When I redid the electronics, I went with all Simrad, including the AP, but Garmin has all the same stuff. We installed the autopilot computer and pump behind the insert next the helm seat. The hydraulic lines run through there, and it made it easy to splice in the autopilot and run the line back to the reservoir. I put the compass under the dash, mounted to the stairway bulkhead. It's a game changer. I program the route on my phone using the Navionics App, sync it to the MFD, hit nav and it takes you there.
     
  10. FootballFan

    FootballFan Well-Known Member

    Jun 20, 2012
    Florida
    Marquis 59
    MTU Series 60
    My opinion - matching the AP to the MFD's was key for me. No way I am surfacing the discussion of simrad, garmin, raymarine, etc. That thread is around here multiple times already
     
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  11. DrPringle

    DrPringle Member

    128
    Jul 31, 2020
    2007 340 sea ray sundancer
    8.1l
    Mind sharing with kit you went with and pump I have Simrads on my 07 340 and want ap
     
  12. bfernald0

    bfernald0 Active Member

    349
    May 18, 2020
    Marina del Rey, California
    340 Sundancer 2001
    8.2L Mercruiser ECT Horizons
    Happy to. I purchased the NAC-2 Core Pack from Hodges (https://www.hodgesmarine.com/sim000-13335-001-simrad-nac2-autopilot-core-pack-nac2-precis.html) in 2019 along with the RPU-80 pump. At the time it was 1499 for the kit (w/o the pump). It's now 1679 for the same kit. I have a Simrad Go9 XSE. While the Go9 will work directly with the autopilot in the absence of a dedicated controller, you can't commission the friggin' thing without the separate controller, unless you have a separately wired standby button as I recall. Anyway, I ended up finding a used AP44 display on Ebay which I installed as well. I'll take some pics of the pump and computer install and attach them here. The setup has worked like a charm since installation. In So Cal, we have a limited number of destinations and at this point, I've got every one of them programmed in. I pull up the route on the MFD and once I'm out of the jetty, hit Nav and it just takes you there.

    I should add that my 2001 340 was repowered with 8.2 big blocks from the original 7.4s. The RPU-80 is more than sufficient to handle the boat.
     
  13. DrPringle

    DrPringle Member

    128
    Jul 31, 2020
    2007 340 sea ray sundancer
    8.1l
    Awesome thank you
    I’ll looking this
    Been wanting for years just hesitant to take on the task
     
  14. bfernald0

    bfernald0 Active Member

    349
    May 18, 2020
    Marina del Rey, California
    340 Sundancer 2001
    8.2L Mercruiser ECT Horizons
    The only semi difficult part was splicing in the pump. I ended up having an electronics outfit install it for me. Second hardest part was running the wire from the rudder sensor to the computer. Everything else is pretty much plug and play.
     
  15. dvx216

    dvx216 Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Feb 1, 2012
    Catawaba Island/Orrville,Oh.
    340 Sundancer 2001
    8.1s 370 v drv.
    It appears as though the teleflex sea star install kit use compression tee fittings is that correct. With that being said does that mean I can cut into the line anywhere and install the tees.
     
  16. bfernald0

    bfernald0 Active Member

    349
    May 18, 2020
    Marina del Rey, California
    340 Sundancer 2001
    8.2L Mercruiser ECT Horizons

    You have to run a new line back to the steering wheel pump reservoir. As such, I tried to put the pump as close to the steering wheel as was convenient, so as not to have to run a long line. That being said, on a 34 I think you can splice it wherever you want.
     
  17. Jaybeaux

    Jaybeaux Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 3, 2016
    Upper Potomac River
    2006 Sea Ray 48
    Naught On Call
    Cummins QSC-540s with V-Drives
    11 KW Onan Genset
    Yes
     
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  18. jmauld

    jmauld Well-Known Member

    Jun 9, 2020
    Carolina Beach
    2010 Sundancer 390
    2016 Sea Hunt Ultra 211
    Twin 8.1l of gas guzzling iron
    Are the steering pumps interchangeable? If I have a simrad AP can I swap the AP computer to a raymarine and have it work with the simrad pump? What about the steering position sensor?
     
  19. SKybolt

    SKybolt Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Nov 11, 2014
    Kent Narrows, MD
    Reel Nauti
    460 EC
    Detroit 6v92TA
    (Low profile's)
    Alison Gears
    Westerbeke
    12.5kw Genset
    Look at the specs for a Type 1 RM pump and compare it to the Simrad one. But I suspect you can. The Steering ram needs to be looked at if the pumps are very different and see what the capacity is.
     
  20. Jaybeaux

    Jaybeaux Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 3, 2016
    Upper Potomac River
    2006 Sea Ray 48
    Naught On Call
    Cummins QSC-540s with V-Drives
    11 KW Onan Genset

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