Alternative to expensive remote control for sport yachts

Discussion in 'Modifications/Customizations' started by Carpediem44DB, Jul 2, 2017.

  1. Carpediem44DB

    Carpediem44DB Active Member

    239
    Aug 18, 2015
    Sanfransico Bay area
    2006 44 DB Sedan Bridge Raymarine E120 radar chart plotter GPS autopilot
    cummins QSC 8.3 500 HD
    I installed a remote control system on my 44DB. It controls the transmissions and the thruster only. I bring it into the slip single handed with a small hand held transmitter on a lanyard around my neck standing in the cockpit or swim platform. My bride a crew she is not so I can leave her with her cocktail on the bridge and I can dock the boat without the frustration of having "help". I installed the same one on my buddies 420. It takes about two hours to install and no wires need to be cut. It works on 2.3 Gigahertz so there is no radio interference. I'm thinking of offering DIY kits or even custom installations. The Yacht Controller sells for 8-10 grand plus installation. This system can be installed for less than 20% of the Yacht Controller with the same built in interference and security features. I've operated my boat now for over 100 hrs with this system and have yet to have a problem.
    if interested to get more info or are interested in one for your boat PM me.
    Happy Yachting​




     
  2. Boat Guy

    Boat Guy Well-Known Member

    You should post a link to a video.
     
  3. tdschafer

    tdschafer Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Aug 24, 2009
    Long island , NY
    1997 330 sundancer
    twin 454's, Carb, V-Drives
    I can't see any of the pics?

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  4. Carpediem44DB

    Carpediem44DB Active Member

    239
    Aug 18, 2015
    Sanfransico Bay area
    2006 44 DB Sedan Bridge Raymarine E120 radar chart plotter GPS autopilot
    cummins QSC 8.3 500 HD
    IMG_0271.jpg When I get back from Maui I'll shoot a video and post it. If I can figure out how to attach it I will
     
    Last edited: Jul 4, 2017
  5. Carpediem44DB

    Carpediem44DB Active Member

    239
    Aug 18, 2015
    Sanfransico Bay area
    2006 44 DB Sedan Bridge Raymarine E120 radar chart plotter GPS autopilot
    cummins QSC 8.3 500 HD
    For those interested in the remote control post, I will be posting a video but I am holding off until my new hand held transmitter is completed. I am having a more intuitive controller built once I thought others may be interested in installation of the system. Should only be a few weeks though.
    Rusty
     
  6. Bt Doctur

    Bt Doctur Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    New Jersey
    Ex SRV 240 Weekender twin
    in between
    One would think that learning how to control your vessel and dock it with the controls first would be better than relying on electronics gadgets that may happen to fail at the most inopportune time.
    Get a spasm in your thumbs and your really in trouble now
     
  7. Gofirstclass

    Gofirstclass Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 20, 2010
    Tri Cities, WA
    1995 550 Sedan Bridge,
    2010 Boston Whaler 130 Super Sport,
    1981 Boston Whaler 130 Sport,
    CAT 3406C's, 580hp.
    Bt, I might be wrong but I'll assume there is a learning curve with the remote control as there would be with a manual docking. Both have to be learned and both have to be practiced.

    I don't think I would want to master the joystick without having first mastered backing manually, but I see the joystick as a great addition to a boat. I have a remote control that controls the bow thruster. I wear it around my neck on a lanyard every time I dock and/or go through the locks. I don't see it as a replacement for knowing how to manually dock the boat, but more as a supplemental tool if I need to tweak the position of the bow.

    Carpe, good job. I'll be interested in seeing your video.
     
  8. Bt Doctur

    Bt Doctur Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2010
    New Jersey
    Ex SRV 240 Weekender twin
    in between
    I dont deny electronics will make boating or any other sport toy easier but proper handling must come first.
    There was a case when the DTS first came out and during a test drive the salesperson set his phone right next to the controls and the DTS went to full throttle in reverse.
    With any gadget there should be a master over-ride ,just in case.
     
  9. Carpediem44DB

    Carpediem44DB Active Member

    239
    Aug 18, 2015
    Sanfransico Bay area
    2006 44 DB Sedan Bridge Raymarine E120 radar chart plotter GPS autopilot
    cummins QSC 8.3 500 HD
    That is why this system only controls the drive units and thrusters. No chance of the boat taking off. I only use it though in scenarios where I'm not likely to need power above low idle. The diesles swinging the 24 inch props though bite pretty well so I find I rarley use throttles when maneuvering in most marinas. Best advise is to master maneuvering your vessel from the helm first. Then and only then add gadgets to your reportior.
     
  10. Carpediem44DB

    Carpediem44DB Active Member

    239
    Aug 18, 2015
    Sanfransico Bay area
    2006 44 DB Sedan Bridge Raymarine E120 radar chart plotter GPS autopilot
    cummins QSC 8.3 500 HD
    Hey guys, I’m just about ready to launch a video of the remote operation, finishing touches being made and production tolerances being tightened up on the custom transmitter causing a bit of a delay. Stay tuned
     
  11. FootballFan

    FootballFan Well-Known Member

    Jun 20, 2012
    Florida
    Marquis 59
    MTU Series 60
    So, consider a larger boat.

    Fly bridge helm, 10 steps to reach the point of being able to see the corners of the swim platform.

    Is a remote control unit a gadget?

    Are controls in the cockpit a gadget?

    Just wondering what is a gadget versus not...
     
  12. ttmott

    ttmott Well-Known Member

    Apr 3, 2012
    Space Coast Florida
    2006 52 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins QSM11
    I have been in slips where the pilings are simply too far from the bow to get the lines around and momentary buttons on a remote to bump the boat around would have made life so much simpler. Like any other system or control on the boat, helm or otherwise, always have a plan should a failure happen because failures will happen.
     
  13. Timeflys

    Timeflys Member

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    Dec 7, 2013
    Thousand Islands, Ontario, Canada
    "Frequent Flyer"
    2002 Sundancer 360
    Merc Horizon 8.1s
  14. Strecker25

    Strecker25 Well-Known Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    1998 290 Sundancer
    Twin 5.7EFI/Alphas, Kohler 4kw
  15. Lazy Daze

    Lazy Daze Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor

    Apr 21, 2009
    PA
    Various
    Various
    Have you guys ever tried to maneuver a single-engined inboard? It can make the best of us look like total fools. Their forward, low speed control is slow to react - at best. Reversing... well, in one direction they "sort of turn", and won't turn in the other direction. Certainly, I'm not saying the system shown in the video should replace becoming competent behind the wheel, though. But it sure is a heck of nice addition! The part where the boat turned around with only about 6 inches to spare... without that system, there would be no way to do that without lines or pivoting on the rubrail.

    Seize... I don't have a boat that requires your system, but I'm curious to see more about it!
     
  16. Strecker25

    Strecker25 Well-Known Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    1998 290 Sundancer
    Twin 5.7EFI/Alphas, Kohler 4kw
    Oh yea, I don't discount its effectiveness and if the technology is available why wouldn't they put it in these smaller boats. Anything that makes docking less intimidating is good in my book, it will get more people into boating. Agreed on at least learning to get into a slip without it though just in case it wacks out

    can't wait to see the remote control video
     
  17. sb in gp

    sb in gp Member

    753
    Oct 10, 2006
    Grosse Pointe, MI
    44 Sedan Bridge 2006
    Cummins QSC-500
    Where's the video Carp?
     
  18. Carpediem44DB

    Carpediem44DB Active Member

    239
    Aug 18, 2015
    Sanfransico Bay area
    2006 44 DB Sedan Bridge Raymarine E120 radar chart plotter GPS autopilot
    cummins QSC 8.3 500 HD
    To those interested in the remote helm video, I finally have a version to share. I just installed a system in a 52 DB and am about to install one on a Fairline 46 Phantom. Take a look and PM me if you have any interest in putting one in your boat.
     
  19. ttmott

    ttmott Well-Known Member

    Apr 3, 2012
    Space Coast Florida
    2006 52 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins QSM11
    I like it!
    If you are planning to market the product you will need to do a Failure Modes and Effects Analysis (FMEA). It's best to have a third party do the FMEA as this is an important component of your liability mitigation. The FMEA will ferret out all of the "if-then" scenarios and help you understand and implement a safe and reliable product as well as develop the product instructions and warnings to best protect you and your company. We have these studies done routinely and have found great value in them, provided they are done correctly, to refine our systems and hardware as well as protect us the operators and expensive one of a kind hardware.
     
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2017
  20. Quint4

    Quint4 Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor SILVER Sponsor

    Oct 6, 2006
    S.W. Ohio
    330 Sport Bridge
    5.7 MPI 350 Merc Bluewaters
    Very useful product, good luck with it.
     

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