58 Sedan Bridge Official Thread

Discussion in 'Sport Yachts/Yachts' started by Skip, Oct 19, 2018.

  1. carterchapman

    carterchapman Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor

    Mar 25, 2008
    Lake Chickamauga/Marietta, GA/Ft. Myers, FL
    2006 Sea Ray 58 DB
    MAN CRM V8-900s, Twin Disc Drives; Onan 21.5 Generator
    We really liked it. 10 miles from our condo. Close to the ICW. Sad it took such a bad hit.

    Good luck Wednesday night! Crown Weather says 75-85 mph at coast in...
     
  2. All's Well

    All's Well Well-Known Member

    Jan 14, 2010
    Houston
    '12 58 Sundancer
    900 MAN
    This is great advice -
    I had a MMDS display that was defaulting to metric readings. I contacted SeaTronics on their website and Mike was able to explain what the issue was and what the best step forward would be. I removed both MMDS displays and the boards from the MAN control panels and took them to SeaTronics. They replaced the batteries and bench tested each unit.
    Once I got back to the boat I replaced all of them and had one display that didn't power on. I again sent a message to SeaTronics on their website explaining that I had a question on the installation. I got a call directly from Mike ON A SUNDAY afternoon that explained the power wires and I discovered I had a wiring error on my part. I reconnected and Whala - problem solved. I will use SeaTronics again and will recommend them to anyone with a repair need.
     
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  3. ranger58sb

    ranger58sb Active Member

    540
    Apr 6, 2021
    Annapolis
    2006 58DB
    MAN 900 CRM
    FRESHWATER SYSTEM

    When I began prepping the boat for the 2021/22 winter, I was a bit baffled by the water manifold... until learning from folks here that the "transom shower" outlet is also an inlet... functioning as a 2-way street.

    I decided at the time that a schematic would be useful, and recently I've gotten around to making one for my own reference. I'm posting that here in case others might find it useful, too.

    Freshwater1.JPG

    Freshwater2.JPG

    Freshwater3.JPG

    I've also attached a PDF version.

    The original is in PowerPoint, but it looks like the site won't let me upload that. Happy to forward to email, so folks can feel free to PM me to arrange that.

    I didn't take the time this year to puzzle out why there are two guest head colds and one guest head hot. I'll get around to that, sometime...

    -Chris
     

    Attached Files:

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  4. carterchapman

    carterchapman Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor

    Mar 25, 2008
    Lake Chickamauga/Marietta, GA/Ft. Myers, FL
    2006 Sea Ray 58 DB
    MAN CRM V8-900s, Twin Disc Drives; Onan 21.5 Generator
    Thanks Chris. Added to my 58 File.
     
  5. Trinity

    Trinity Member

    109
    Sep 20, 2008
    Kemah Texas
    2006 58 Sedan Bridge
    2007 11 ft. Boston Whaler Dingy
    Man 900 HP
    great news that you are back in business
     
  6. Trinity

    Trinity Member

    109
    Sep 20, 2008
    Kemah Texas
    2006 58 Sedan Bridge
    2007 11 ft. Boston Whaler Dingy
    Man 900 HP
     
  7. Trinity

    Trinity Member

    109
    Sep 20, 2008
    Kemah Texas
    2006 58 Sedan Bridge
    2007 11 ft. Boston Whaler Dingy
    Man 900 HP
    Chris thanks so much - very informative and will go in my file
     
  8. Trinity

    Trinity Member

    109
    Sep 20, 2008
    Kemah Texas
    2006 58 Sedan Bridge
    2007 11 ft. Boston Whaler Dingy
    Man 900 HP
    Chris would you say the max water pressure coming into the boat from shore water is 55 PSI
     
  9. ranger58sb

    ranger58sb Active Member

    540
    Apr 6, 2021
    Annapolis
    2006 58DB
    MAN 900 CRM
    Our original pressure regulator was 35 psi. I've replaced that after it failed, and the new one is 45 psi. Our replacement freshwater pump -- new version of original -- is 55 psi max, cut in is at 40 psi.

    It's possible to get higher dockwater pressure by using the transom washdown outlet as an inlet (with a fender changer). I found a " portable" pressure regulator to us on that, Camco I think, 65 psi I think...

    -Chris
     
  10. ranger58sb

    ranger58sb Active Member

    540
    Apr 6, 2021
    Annapolis
    2006 58DB
    MAN 900 CRM
    SUNPAD -- OEM?

    Anyone know who made the originals?

    Sea Ray hasn't been responsive (seems odd). One of the local Sea Ray dealers guessed Gioia Sails, but Dawn Gioia tells me they apparently didn't make it. (Or at least have no records, no pattern.)

    I have a local canvas guy, but before I get in touch with him I wondered if anyone can lead me an easier way...

    -Chris
     
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  11. carterchapman

    carterchapman Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor

    Mar 25, 2008
    Lake Chickamauga/Marietta, GA/Ft. Myers, FL
    2006 Sea Ray 58 DB
    MAN CRM V8-900s, Twin Disc Drives; Onan 21.5 Generator
    Mine were remade by my PO - he removed the hardware for the backrests - an they appear to be made out of "unobtanium" as I've had no luck finding them either.
     
  12. ocgrant

    ocgrant Official Bahamas Boating Ambassador GOLD Sponsor

    Dec 31, 2006
    Miami / Ft Lauderdale
    H2O Therapy
    2006 Sundancer 48
    Novurania 430DL
    Yamaha EX-R
    PADI Divemaster
    Raymarine Electronics
    Cummins QSC 540's
    I think one of Boat Out Fitters sub companies made the "starboard" frames for them so they might have had the canvas done also. You might check with Theo at BOF to see if he can help.
     
  13. Morgan Jane

    Morgan Jane Active Member

    381
    Sep 10, 2010
    Occoquan, VA
    2008 55 Sundancer
    Man 900's
    Boatswains-locker did all the factory Canvass for the 55 Sundancer. Talking with them they seem to imply they did all the canvass for the big Sea Rays during that time. Point being, I called and ordered the Drop Curtain from them (which was a factory option) and they said they needed to check to see if they had the dimensions of my boat. Yes, my actual Hull ID. #341. The lady comes back a few minutes later and says, yep we got all the dimensions of your boat. I asked if they measured every Sea Ray Big boat. She said yep. She said believe it or not, not every Hard top ends up in the exact same spot. So we measured every single boat at the factory. If I need a new Canvass Back one day, I just call them and they already have the dimensions. The Drop curtain they sent fit perfectly, Pretty cool. Maybe they made the Sun Pads too? Would make sense that they did.

    Bill
     
  14. ranger58sb

    ranger58sb Active Member

    540
    Apr 6, 2021
    Annapolis
    2006 58DB
    MAN 900 CRM
    Thanks, that may be helpful. Our cockpit canvas is from them, and it happens I'm missing a panel. I see their website says "58SDB: FULL ENCLOSURE orders only" so I'll just have to talk with them to see if that means cockpit panels -- aft curtains -- too (versus bridge enclosures).

    Hadn't thought about them maybe having done the sunpad, too. I see no mention of sunpads on their site, but I'll ask.

    What's a Drop Curtain?

    Speaking of our cockpit canvas, I've only just begun paying attention, and it's been too cold to comfortably spend much time yutzing with it...

    But I'm a bit baffled by an extra flap of material that hangs down from starboard panel #3 -- the one that turns the corner and straddled the cockpit gate. It has female snaps installed, nothing mates up with anywhere on the hull or the gate -- so no clue what it's for or what to snap it to.

    Both starboard #3 and port #3 panels have some straps attached, inside, at one of the seams. Ditto no clue what those are for.

    ??

    Cheers, -Chris
     
  15. carterchapman

    carterchapman Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor

    Mar 25, 2008
    Lake Chickamauga/Marietta, GA/Ft. Myers, FL
    2006 Sea Ray 58 DB
    MAN CRM V8-900s, Twin Disc Drives; Onan 21.5 Generator
    The flap snaps to the transom door and closes off the gap there.
     
  16. techmitch

    techmitch Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    May 1, 2008
    Chesapeake Bay, Middle River/Frog Mortar Creek MD.
    1999 270 DA
    Twin 4.3s W/Alpa I Gen II's
    Are the straps on the panel's #3 to raise or roll them up and attach/snap the strap above somewhere in the cockpit so you don't have to completely remove the when you need some ventilation but still need cover?
     
  17. ranger58sb

    ranger58sb Active Member

    540
    Apr 6, 2021
    Annapolis
    2006 58DB
    MAN 900 CRM
    That was my first guess, but there aren't any obvious male snaps on or near the transom door that would work for that. That flap has two female snaps, one at each lower corner... but the fabric just kinda hangs there...

    ??

    stbd3_flap_snap.JPG

    Hmmm... Yep, maybe could be that. Thanks, I'll check.

    -Chris
     
  18. carterchapman

    carterchapman Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor

    Mar 25, 2008
    Lake Chickamauga/Marietta, GA/Ft. Myers, FL
    2006 Sea Ray 58 DB
    MAN CRM V8-900s, Twin Disc Drives; Onan 21.5 Generator
    Chris -
    Mine has snaps on the top of the door. I'm flying up from Florida to Chattanooga tomorrow to check boat heaters (it's going down to 11° Friday night!!), and I'll get a picture for you.
     
  19. bhagan

    bhagan New Member

    18
    Dec 5, 2021
    2007 44 Sedan Bridge
    QSC500s
    Hi everyone! Okay, so here is one of the questions i feel stupid asking but going to any way. LOL. We moved up from a 2007 44 SB to the 580 SB a month and a half ago. Obviously the cleats on the boat are “split” and significantly bigger than the 44…..is there a trick to tying off on the cleats on the bowlines when in the slip? I feel like the traditional way of tying off on a cleat does not work on these larger split cleats, but i know i’m probably just not doing something right. Thanks for any tips!
     
  20. ttmott

    ttmott PhD in OCD TECHNICAL Contributor GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 3, 2012
    Space Coast Florida
    2006 52 Sedan Bridge
    Cummins QSM11
    Same on the 52. I either put the loop side over or do three minimum hitches with 5/8 double braid.
     

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