58 Sedan Bridge Official Thread

Discussion in 'Sport Yachts/Yachts' started by Skip, Oct 19, 2018.

  1. tc410

    tc410 Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Oct 9, 2006
    2005 550DB
    MAN CRM-900
    The bass module is under the forward section of the starboard sofa. You need to remove the forward section of the seat back to see it. I’m not sure that will solve your issue, but that’s where it’s located. Those Bose lifestyle systems have an “end of life” period. I’ve had 2 different ones (one in home and one on previous Sea Ray) die. And before they die they sputter and choke with random symptoms.
     
  2. ranger58sb

    ranger58sb Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    430
    Apr 6, 2021
    Annapolis
    2006 58DB
    MAN 900 CRM
    @tc410 Thanks! At least now I know where it is. Can't reach anything on it without completely dismantling the starboard sofa, but it's a start knowing where stuff is.

    I tried to simulate a reset using instructions here:
    Resetting your product - Lifestyle® 48 DVD home entertainment system (bose.com)

    Substituting a move to OFF on the Entertainment Center breaker for everything that required access to cable connections at the Acoustimass. No joy. The symptom continues: after a short bit, sound goes to bouncing back and forth between mute and sound.

    I might or might not try to do a real reset; depends on how much appetite I can gin up for dismantling the sofa to get there from here.

    Can't say I'd have much confidence all that work would pay off. Did you ever try one of the Bose reset techniques on yours?

    Looks like our goal could also be relatively easily solved with a new soundbar/sub-woofer and a separate Blu-ray/DVD player. Orphan the Bose equipment, including the Jewel Cube speakers, in place... and get on with fixing something else more important.

    Wouldn't have minded somehow reusing the Jewel Cubes, though, given they're right out there in front of Gawd and everybody...

    -Chris
     
  3. ranger58sb

    ranger58sb Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

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    Apr 6, 2021
    Annapolis
    2006 58DB
    MAN 900 CRM
    WOT Test

    Our build sheet says the boat originally came with 28x37 4-blade props. I've read here that Sea Ray replaced those with 30x33s... and the stampings on our current pair confirmed that (once I remembered to look).

    We hadn't been able to reach rated 2300 RPM WOT after our engine rehab last June. Over this last winter we got the bottom and underwater hardware all cleaned up, and had the props reconditioned by Miller Island Propeller in Baltimore... and during that they changed pitch to 30x31 to make up the difference we'd reported.

    Early yesterday morning we got a chance to test again. Clean hull, full fuel, full water, 2 persons, no dinghy, calm water, cross-ways to tide/current: RPM 2385P/2365S, coolant temp 185P/187S, %load 98-100P/98-100S, %throttle 95P/100S, GPH 40P/43S, speed 29.5 kts.

    Good enough, for now. I can retest once we get the dinghy (if I can ever get the GHS platform to work) and then we'll see what further mods might be necessary, if any.

    I don't know if the original 28x37 spares were replaced or not. If they were, I might have them reconditioned next year -- perhaps instead of the wheels that are mounted now -- using this info as a guideline too.

    -Chris
     
    Last edited: Jun 1, 2022
  4. carterchapman

    carterchapman Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor SILVER Sponsor

    Mar 25, 2008
    Lake Chickamauga/Marietta, GA/Ft. Myers, FL
    2006 Sea Ray 58 DB
    MAN CRM V8-900s, Twin Disc Drives; Onan 21.5 Generator
    Most were replaced under warranty (to 30X33's) as I understand. My dockmate's '05 had 28X36's and they worked well - 2350 WOT and no ventilating or hub erosion...
     
  5. swaterhouse

    swaterhouse Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    969
    Jan 7, 2015
    Mattapoisett, MA
    2008 58 DB
    MAN CRM 900
    Mine are a set of freshly tuned 29.5x35.5's. I did my MAN sea trial after my M5, A1 and A2 this winter on a flat calm day with no current, clean bottom, full fuel, full water, slightly less "stuff" than normal but no dinghy. We hit 2368/2371 at 98% load, MAN was happy.

    Now that we are loaded for the summer and the dinghy is on we will pick a day that isn't blowing its normal gale when we have full fuel and do another run.
     
  6. swaterhouse

    swaterhouse Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    969
    Jan 7, 2015
    Mattapoisett, MA
    2008 58 DB
    MAN CRM 900
    Finally got the new dinghy loaded up. Still working on exact placement and getting the tie downs the correct length but getting there. It still fits with the actual beam of the boat but I would not want it any bigger! Sort of wish we had gone down a size but you give up the seat in front of the console to do that.


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  7. tc410

    tc410 Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Oct 9, 2006
    2005 550DB
    MAN CRM-900
    Nice setup!! You made a good call on the size. I was going to get a 380 but went with a 340 - very glad I did…. I’ve seen several people that thought since the boat has a 16’ beam, I can get a 16’ dinghy - doesn’t work that way!!
     
  8. ranger58sb

    ranger58sb Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

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    Apr 6, 2021
    Annapolis
    2006 58DB
    MAN 900 CRM
    BOSE Lifestyle 48 -- Replacement

    Given our LS48 issues, and given I can't easily get to the back of the Acoustimass to even try a master reset... I decided to do a Plan B. In the meantime, or maybe forever.

    Last Sunday I ordered a Samsung HW-Q60T 5.1ch soundbar/subwoofer, and a Sony BDP-BX370 Blu-Ray/DVD player. $315.87 and $121.89 respectively from Amazon, including taxes and free delivery.

    I did a trial hook-up today, all good, easy HDMI connections, the subwoofer connects to the soundbar via Bluetooth, etc. The "surround" channels are virtual and it's not a huge sub... but it's a relatively tiny room and the system all sounds good.

    The front-loading Sony disc player will fit easily in the same slot in the A/V rack previously occupied by a Direct TV box. The sub does NOT fit in the empty area just to starboard from the slide-out A/V rack. Misses by about an inch-and-a-half in width. Rats. So I'll have to decide where to put it; several relatively easy choices are available -- under one of the starboard settee cushions, probably even behind the A/V rack -- but I'll work on the rest of that next week. And I'll probably mount the soundbar to the TV mount, so it's suspended above the tabletop area there under the TV.

    I would normally have picked a Samsung Blu-Ray/DVD player -- given we have a couple Samsung TV/disc player pairs at home and they work together pretty seamlessly -- but apparently Samsung is out of the disc paying business these days. The Sony player seems pretty straightforward, and it's not like Sony doesn't have deep disc experience.

    The only thing I've actually lost from the LS48 is AM/FM stereo radio. My current thought is to replace saloon/galley ACs next Spring, which means the starboard settee will have to be dismantled... so I can try a master reset then, see if that happens to do anything useful to the Bose. If not, I can remove the Acoustimass, head unit, and more wiring at that point.

    -Chris
     
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2022
  9. swaterhouse

    swaterhouse Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    969
    Jan 7, 2015
    Mattapoisett, MA
    2008 58 DB
    MAN CRM 900
    Sea Ray Monitor Replacement Phase 1 is complete.

    Over the winter I ran a n2k backbone from engine room forward bulkhead where old Sea Ray Monitor black bow was mounted to behind the salon entertainment system and up to bridge and across the hardtop and back down into helm station. If anyone does this it's about a 60' run. I bought 100' just in case.

    RIM100 sits in engine room and DSM410 almost fits up in bridge overhead electronics box. I had technographics make a filler panel for me.

    This phase just has the heat detector, two emergency bilge pumps and a monitor for the other three pumps. Next phase will add another RIM100 to get the vacuum switches on the fuel filters and generator low oil pressure. I will also add a vacuum switch to the generator fuel filter.

    The internal alarm in the DSM410 isn't very loud so will add an n2k alarm module.

    Big thanks to @ttmott for pioneering this swap.

    I also swapped the nmea0183 depth transducer to a n2k version so always have depth when n2k network is in, which for me is 24/7.


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  10. missnmountains

    missnmountains Active Member

    504
    Dec 12, 2007
    Florida
    2008 58 Sedan Bridge
    900 Man
    I want to shout out a public thank you to Carter & Susan for the awesome time we had last Saturday. Your cruising grounds are pretty spectacular.

    Thank you again, Ken & Chris
     
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  11. Skip

    Skip Well-Known Member

    Oct 5, 2006
    Potomac River/Chesapeake Bay
    07 58 DB
    Truly Blessed IV

    2010 Nautica 12' RIB, 40HP Yamaha
    MAN CRM 900s
    Sad to report that TBIV is in brokerage. Between my wife’s new job, my growing Company, and our youngest son’s college prep baseball travel league, every weekend this summer is booked. When she sells will be the first time since I was 24 that I have not owned a boat, and the first time in 18 years without a Sea Ray.
    :(
     
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  12. Jaybeaux

    Jaybeaux Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 3, 2016
    Upper Potomac River
    2006 Sea Ray 48
    Naught On Call
    Cummins QSC-540s with V-Drives
    11 KW Onan Genset
    Skipper....you have given so many people on Club Sea Ray so much valuable information over the years; we are all grateful. Just know that you always have a berth on Naught On Call anytime you want it.

    And anyone who is in the market for a 58 Sedan Bridge, you had better act quickly!!! This one isn't gonna hang around for long.

    Jaybeaux
     
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  13. carterchapman

    carterchapman Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor SILVER Sponsor

    Mar 25, 2008
    Lake Chickamauga/Marietta, GA/Ft. Myers, FL
    2006 Sea Ray 58 DB
    MAN CRM V8-900s, Twin Disc Drives; Onan 21.5 Generator
    +++1 Jay. Miss you Skip. Sorry we never met.
     
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  14. swaterhouse

    swaterhouse Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    969
    Jan 7, 2015
    Mattapoisett, MA
    2008 58 DB
    MAN CRM 900
    It was many of your posts on the 420 DA forum that tipped our decision to go with the 420/44 DA's, and last year moved to the 58DB.

    Best of luck with the sale, that had to have been a very hard decision, we will miss you.
     
  15. carterchapman

    carterchapman Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor SILVER Sponsor

    Mar 25, 2008
    Lake Chickamauga/Marietta, GA/Ft. Myers, FL
    2006 Sea Ray 58 DB
    MAN CRM V8-900s, Twin Disc Drives; Onan 21.5 Generator
    Great to see you guys. Glad you made it home safely.
     
  16. Skip

    Skip Well-Known Member

    Oct 5, 2006
    Potomac River/Chesapeake Bay
    07 58 DB
    Truly Blessed IV

    2010 Nautica 12' RIB, 40HP Yamaha
    MAN CRM 900s
    Thank you all-Jaybeaux, hold the aft cabin for me and the Asst. Sec. of the USAF....
     
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  17. Jaybeaux

    Jaybeaux Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Jan 3, 2016
    Upper Potomac River
    2006 Sea Ray 48
    Naught On Call
    Cummins QSC-540s with V-Drives
    11 KW Onan Genset
    Do I get to fly a burgee? COOL!!!!
     
  18. ranger58sb

    ranger58sb Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

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    Apr 6, 2021
    Annapolis
    2006 58DB
    MAN 900 CRM
    @Skip I haven't been here long, but your posts have been a big help during that short time and I really appreciate that. Fair winds.

    -Chris
     
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  19. carterchapman

    carterchapman Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor SILVER Sponsor

    Mar 25, 2008
    Lake Chickamauga/Marietta, GA/Ft. Myers, FL
    2006 Sea Ray 58 DB
    MAN CRM V8-900s, Twin Disc Drives; Onan 21.5 Generator
    What a great time to meet another Forum member! Safe travels!
     
  20. missnmountains

    missnmountains Active Member

    504
    Dec 12, 2007
    Florida
    2008 58 Sedan Bridge
    900 Man
    Safe travels to you too. By the way, the mastervolt charger must have failed while we were on our RV trip. Getting replaced tomorrow morning. Always something.

    Ken
     

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