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Try enabling “SuperUser” in the below screen. Setting>General
It’s been a while so I have forgotten some of this…

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I don't have that screen at all; that alludes yours is already enabled. I'm thinking it needs to be enabled from the touch screen (GX50) which I haven't tried yet. I've been focusing on the Iphone and bluetooth app.
 
I don't have that screen at all; that alludes yours is already enabled. I'm thinking it needs to be enabled from the touch screen (GX50) which I haven't tried yet. I've been focusing on the Iphone and bluetooth app.

Do you have Access to the General tab? The SuperUser replaces two other User Types under Access Level. There might be a password required, I think I just Googled it. Will try to dig it up.


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Do you have Access to the General tab? The SuperUser replaces two other User Types under Access Level. There might be a password required, I think I just Googled it. Will try to dig it up.


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That screen is available when Remote Console is already enabled is seems. Actually, it says "Remote Console".
 
@rlynch03 - also do you know how to enable "Remote Console on VRM" and enable "Two way communication"?
I just can't seem to access any page either on Bluetooth or VRM to enable.
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Do you have the "VictronConnect" Application on your phone? This app will logo in remotely from wifi and also display the Shunt via Bluetooth if close enough.

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You have the "VictronConnect" Application on your phone? This app will logo in remotely from wifi and also display the Shunt via Bluetooth if close enough.
I do, that app doesn't allow access to enable "Remote Console".
It does allow me to see the shunts, the Cerbo and to some extent the inverter.

Here is how I'm configured -
The three devices (shunts and inverter) are connected to the Cerbo via VE.Direct cables.
The boat's NMEA 2000 system is interfaced with a modified NMEA 2000 drop cable to the Cerbo's VE.CAN port.
The boat's Wi-Fi router is interfaced using a standard ethernet cable to the Cerbo's network port.
And, the GX Touch 50 screen is interfaced to the HDMI port and powered by the USB port on the Cerbo.
I do not use the Cerbo's Wi-Fi but do use the Bluetooth features on the Cerbo and shunts with my IPhone and the Victron App.
At home and on my laptop I use the Victron web VRM portal.

They all provide the data except I cannot configure the devices on the boat from the VRM portal (at home or on my laptop).
I am a user/installer but can't seem to find a way to enable "Remote Console" which must be enabled to configure remotely. I suspect it must be enabled from the Touch 50 - we'll see later today.
 
I do, that app doesn't allow access to enable "Remote Console".
It does allow me to see the shunts, the Cerbo and to some extent the inverter.

Here is how I'm configured -
The three devices (shunts and inverter) are connected to the Cerbo via VE.Direct cables.
The boat's NMEA 2000 system is interfaced with a modified NMEA 2000 drop cable to the Cerbo's VE.CAN port.
The boat's Wi-Fi router is interfaced using a standard ethernet cable to the Cerbo's network port.
And, the GX Touch 50 screen is interfaced to the HDMI port and powered by the USB port on the Cerbo.
I do not use the Cerbo's Wi-Fi but do use the Bluetooth features on the Cerbo and shunts with my IPhone and the Victron App.
At home and on my laptop I use the Victron web VRM portal.

They all provide the data except I cannot configure the devices on the boat from the VRM portal (at home or on my laptop).
I am a user/installer but can't seem to find a way to enable "Remote Console" which must be enabled to configure remotely. I suspect it must be enabled from the Touch 50 - we'll see later today.

I am connected the same as you with the exception of the Lan cable for Internet. I am using the Wi-Fi. The Skylla is also connected directly.

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I am connected the same as you with the exception of the Lan cable for Internet. I am using the Wi-Fi. The Skylla is also connected directly.

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We have several differences which may determine methods of access.
Also, I noticed in the graphical system depiction on the screen that the shunts are not indicated separately as in two separate battery systems. That must be a summation. I can see each of the shunts however in the detail pages.
Here is how I set up the shunts in the engine room -
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We have several differences which may determine methods of access.
Also, I noticed in the graphical system depiction on the screen that the shunts are not indicated separately as in two separate battery systems. That must be a summation. I can see each of the shunts however in the detail pages.
Here is how I set up the shunts in the engine room -
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We have several differences which may determine methods of access.
Also, I noticed in the graphical system depiction on the screen that the shunts are not indicated separately as in two separate battery systems. That must be a summation. I can see each of the shunts however in the detail pages.
Here is how I set up the shunts in the engine room -
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Lesson learned - before someone goes out and buys two shunts for a Victron Cerbo GX based power monitor there are complications. So, my intent is to track the port and starboard battery systems separately and consequently the reason for the two battery shunts. As it ends up the Victron Cerbo can and can't deal with two shunts. I'll explain -
The Victron power management systems are really developed to manage DC and AC power including all of the normal electrical sources (PV cells, batteries, shorepower, inverters, and generator) and provide the capability to seamlessly track and monitor that power including automated switching. It is very sophisticated and the best in the industry. Except.....
It it's graphical display of the system configuration, which it self-generates, can't deal with more than one battery bank/shunt. You can have more than one and it assigns an instance for each and each can be monitored in the details page (which are graphs they call widgets) but you must assign only one to the graphical display. You can see here in the graphical view there is only one battery integrated in the system with the other shunt shown separately. In the second pic is the widgets showing the details for both. The down side is when it comes time for the system to determine if the generator needs to come on line or the integrated state of charge of the system in whole it can't deal with that. So it looks like I may have to combine both battery banks into one shunt which brings a host of other challenges. This is my stepping stone to a lithium battery setup so it'll get better.
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Lesson learned - before someone goes out and buys two shunts for a Victron Cerbo GX based power monitor there are complications. So, my intent is to track the port and starboard battery systems separately and consequently the reason for the two battery shunts. As it ends up the Victron Cerbo can and can't deal with two shunts. I'll explain -
The Victron power management systems are really developed to manage DC and AC power including all of the normal electrical sources (PV cells, batteries, shorepower, inverters, and generator) and provide the capability to seamlessly track and monitor that power including automated switching. It is very sophisticated and the best in the industry. Except.....
It it's graphical display of the system configuration, which it self-generates, can't deal with more than one battery bank/shunt. You can have more than one and it assigns an instance for each and each can be monitored in the details page (which are graphs they call widgets) but you must assign only one to the graphical display. You can see here in the graphical view there is only one battery integrated in the system with the other shunt shown separately. In the second pic is the widgets showing the details for both. The down side is when it comes time for the system to determine if the generator needs to come on line or the integrated state of charge of the system in whole it can't deal with that. So it looks like I may have to combine both battery banks into one shunt which brings a host of other challenges. This is my stepping stone to a lithium battery setup so it'll get better.
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Tom
Mine shows slightly different. I do only have (1) 1000A Shunt on the Port Battery but As you know you can also monitor a second (starboard in my case) Battery with the single shunt. Additionally I have the Skylla battery charger.

I do like the Victron systems but I find the interface and menus not very intuitive.

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This was very timely and helpful. Thank you!

I have been turning the breaker on/off in our Master Head (for months) when the wife was aboard otherwise keeping it off. It was cycling every 10min or so. Replaced and chased Duckbill valves and a cracked section of hose for half the summer. Was convinced the rest of my hoses were bad. Since that didn't seal the air.

Followed the steps above, which I have never rebuilt one before. In fact my bowl has been holding water in it all summer but the pump still cycles.

Not hard at all, in fact, now that I have done it, I could rebuild one in less than an hour. Only one picture (sorry) for what it is worth.
One lesson learned, I purchased three different small kits. Probably should have just replaced with the full kit including the water valve.

Green light has held for a couple days.

Now I just need to figure out the counter input on the Cerbo GX to see if it is really holding.

Rich

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We have a signed contract! Kind of sad...

Spent last night clearing out all of our crap (and we had a lot of crap, and by we, I mean my wife and kids) and cleaning up the engine room. It looks amazing. I sure hope the next owners love and care for it like I did. Survey is Tuesday, anxious to see what he finds. Shouldn't find anything, but his job is to find something.

Buyer lives in Honduras. He is shipping to Miami, and then taking it with a Captain to Honduras. He says there are not very many clean, low hour boats there.

He will be here on 10/15 for a sea trial. If all goes good, will wire remaining funds on that Monday and will start transport the next week.

Tim
 
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Survey was this morning. I haven't seen it yet, but I think he found a bulb out and the port rudder packing had a small leak. Should see the full report on Thursday. Still trying to confirm Cummins will be out on Friday to inspect.
 
Cummins inspection went great...as expected. No faults on the engines and everything in tip top shape. They pulled oil samples. Pulling it out on Monday morning for out of water survey. It will stay there until its ready for transport. Buyer was in town for Cummins inspection and sea trial. He was originally going to stay until Monday for haul out, but is impressed enough with everything that he went back today. Hope to close middle of next week!

Tim
 
One step forward, 2 back...

Had the out of water survey this morning. Everything looked great....except a "blister".

Not really sure what to call it except a blister. It is fairly large (8" wide by 15" long). It is right behind the engine water intake. It does not sound wet, but sounds hollow. I'm thinking it is a mfg defect, but who really knows. Getting some quotes before we move forward. I'd like to get it fixed, but with timing, not sure I can do that. I'm committed to making it right, and I think he is ok with that.

Tim
 
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One step forward, 2 back...

Had the out of water survey this morning. Everything looked great....except a "blister".

Not really sure what to call it except a blister. It is fairly large (8" wide by 15" long). It is right behind the engine intake. It does not sound wet, but sounds hollow. I'm thinking it is a mfg defect, but who really knows. Getting some quotes before we move forward. I'd like to get it fixed, but with timing, not sure I can do that. I'm committed to making it right, and I think he is ok with that.

Tim
Had the same issue on my 48. My issue was looked good when we pulled it out for hull survey then sea trailed and I bought it. Next week take it to the yard and wow there is a blister. Yard boss cut into it and showed me it was just a bad layup spot and it was common. $1500 later it was better than new. This year when I pulled it out all was good.
 
This was very timely and helpful. Thank you!

I have been turning the breaker on/off in our Master Head (for months) when the wife was aboard otherwise keeping it off. It was cycling every 10min or so. Replaced and chased Duckbill valves and a cracked section of hose for half the summer. Was convinced the rest of my hoses were bad. Since that didn't seal the air.

Followed the steps above, which I have never rebuilt one before. In fact my bowl has been holding water in it all summer but the pump still cycles.

Not hard at all, in fact, now that I have done it, I could rebuild one in less than an hour. Only one picture (sorry) for what it is worth.
One lesson learned, I purchased three different small kits. Probably should have just replaced with the full kit including the water valve.

Green light has held for a couple days.

Now I just need to figure out the counter input on the Cerbo GX to see if it is really holding.

Rich

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Careful what you ask for Rich. My port head counter (Maretron based) has set at zero for a month not counting the actual flushes. The starboard ticks two times a day. It's eating me from the inside out. I know it's not the lines or toilet. It is definitely in the vacuum generator. I've disassembled and thrown parts at that stinky thing three times now; no improvement. I'm down to the switch or lid gasket..... Sheesh
 
Careful what you ask for Rich. My port head counter (Maretron based) has set at zero for a month not counting the actual flushes. The starboard ticks two times a day. It's eating me from the inside out. I know it's not the lines or toilet. It is definitely in the vacuum generator. I've disassembled and thrown parts at that stinky thing three times now; no improvement. I'm down to the switch or lid gasket..... Sheesh

Sorry to hear Tom. I am so relieved that after rebuilding my master head it has held pressure for a month. At least, I think it does.

One test I think makes sense is when I leave the boat I turn off the Vacumn Generators. When I return the next day or few days later and turn the breakers ON I do NOT see the amp meter bouncing as if the generator is running. That and I don’t see the red light at the toilet unless it’s flushed.

For now, I have moved on to other pressing things…
 
One step forward, 2 back...

Had the out of water survey this morning. Everything looked great....except a "blister".

Not really sure what to call it except a blister. It is fairly large (8" wide by 15" long). It is right behind the engine water intake. It does not sound wet, but sounds hollow. I'm thinking it is a mfg defect, but who really knows. Getting some quotes before we move forward. I'd like to get it fixed, but with timing, not sure I can do that. I'm committed to making it right, and I think he is ok with that.

Tim
I had similar issue on my 52. It was called it a “delamination”. It appeared to be a manufacturer defect I was told but I wondered how it was not caught by previous surveys I was the 3rd owner. It should be simple fix but don’t let LOZ Marinemax do it!
 

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