Converse48
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It is a great boat, I hope to own one of the iterations (480/50/52) some day.
480 DB Owners Club
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Boatingfool
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Is a braw standard fare for the 480 DB? ; )
The 480 DB is a fantastic boat, and definitly one of the nicest looking Sea Ray's out there. Also a popular boat, saw five of them in St. Michaels alone last weekend.
Gary - with the grand hard top on the DB's, why do you roll rather than snap up the canvas (ie. the pic in my sig)?
- Mar 25, 2008
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I'm with you Tim - someday for us too. But for now all I can say to Gary is..."BASTARD"... With all due respect! Oh - and thanks for taking the time to put all those links together.
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searay40dad
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- Oct 23, 2006
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- 2001 480 Sedan Bridge w/ Novurania RIB
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I'm installing a couple snaps on the top this weekend for the fwd panel. Looked at the side panels but wasnt sure 2 snaps along the bottom edge would do it. do you have more snaps and are they installed along the bottom edge only?
probably a dumb question, how do you like the MANS? I have a buddy that just sold his '04 560 a couple weeks ago. it had the 1050s...cruised at 33, WOT topped 40mph. I couldnt get over how much the boat lurched when put in gear. if you werent holding on or ready for it, you'd go flying. loved the red night lighting on the bridge too.
searay40dad
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- Oct 23, 2006
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- 660 hp CAT 3196's
saw gary's post on another thread to a gen problem. want to investigate a bit further as I've had a similiar thing happen twice now. Gen has quit twice for no apparent reason. first occurance, was on a trip so mains & gen had run all day--very hot ER as well as a 90+ degree day. 2nd time, went down on 95 degree Sunday afternoon, had ran atleast 9-10 hrs straight and darn near non-stop from Friday evening.
No oil p, exhaust temp, or water flow alarms either time. plenty of water pumping; no steam. lift pump vdc ok and 'clicking'. it would start but immediately shut down, just like fuel was being shut off.
on first occurance, 3-4 hrs later, it started and ran for another day and a half (again, was on a trip) like nothing ever happened. 2nd time, when I returned to the boat the following Fri prep'd to change filters, re-check fuel pump, check safety switches, etc, it started & ran fine. last 2 weekends, its ran nearly continuously fri-sun in some pretty hot weather but no more shutdowns.
I'm now suspecting fuel line from racor. again, no pressure/temps alarms, so it has to be fuel starvation...or air flow restriction (did change air filter)?
is there a situation that happens that may be temp dependant where the fuel system pulls more than the line can provide--a vaccum on the line--possibly collapsing it to a point a fuel restriction occurs? or getting air in the lines somewhere?
No oil p, exhaust temp, or water flow alarms either time. plenty of water pumping; no steam. lift pump vdc ok and 'clicking'. it would start but immediately shut down, just like fuel was being shut off.
on first occurance, 3-4 hrs later, it started and ran for another day and a half (again, was on a trip) like nothing ever happened. 2nd time, when I returned to the boat the following Fri prep'd to change filters, re-check fuel pump, check safety switches, etc, it started & ran fine. last 2 weekends, its ran nearly continuously fri-sun in some pretty hot weather but no more shutdowns.
I'm now suspecting fuel line from racor. again, no pressure/temps alarms, so it has to be fuel starvation...or air flow restriction (did change air filter)?
is there a situation that happens that may be temp dependant where the fuel system pulls more than the line can provide--a vaccum on the line--possibly collapsing it to a point a fuel restriction occurs? or getting air in the lines somewhere?
bmac
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- Jan 11, 2008
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My generator had similar symptoms last year but had gotten to the point where it wouldn't start. I had it looked at by the local Cummins service techs and what they found surprised me. The fuel supply line from the tank to the Racor had collapsed. The tech told me he had never seen such a high vacuum on the Racor canister. Line replaced, problem solved, genny has run flawlessly all summer (I probably shouldn't say that!!)
Boatingfool
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My front and rear panels have three snaps each. The side windows (which are about twice as large) have five snaps each. As you can see in the picture, at least on the 560 Sea Ray had to get a little creative with the snaps because of the electronics enclosure.
Pic of rear panels:
What I have noticed is that the glass almost seems too tight when you snap it. However, it needs to be like this. If it is not taught than it would flap around in the wind and be a nusance...so don't be affraid to make the snaps/panels taught when you install this weekend.
Love the MANS. Yes, they do lurch you forward when put into gear but you get used to it and the 7+ knot idle. I think it actually makes docking easier - or at least easy for a large boat - once you get used to it.
Did your friends 560 have a blue haul? I met a nice couple in Annapolis last weekend who recently took delivery of a 2004 560 with a blue haul. Never seen one in person before, looked nice.
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searay40dad
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- Oct 23, 2006
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hmmm, fuel line from tank to racor...not racor to gen, huh? are there any physical/visual indications the hose is suspect, like it draws in on its own or is easily compressible if pinched like the hose walls are breaking down?
searay40dad
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- Oct 23, 2006
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ok, so far so good on the snaps.
he had just taken the 560 from KY to ft myers area end of last summer then ended up listing w/ marine max somewhere local to the aea. I think it sold on gulf side somewhere--it was white hull. somebody got a helluva boat...
bmac
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Actually it was the line from the selector panel to the Racor. What they told me was the line looked like it had been crushed at installation at a clamp and that it was "soft" at that location. I looked at it and couldn't discern any obvious damage but it was definitely soft. Surprised me, but it solved the problem.
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jbruno
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I've had 400 DB for 4 years and am now considering moving to a 480 DB. Has anyone made this transition and what are the pros and cons?
Big Daddy II
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I had a 2001 400db with 430 cummins and in 2004 bought a new 480 db. Its been a great boat with next to no trouble. I do have monthly service by a local diesel mechanic and I keep it on a lift. It cruises at 31mph burning 45 gph which isn't to bad for a boat this size. I run it year round being in Florida. Advantages over the 400DB- Enclosed bridge with hard top and AC, 3rd stateroom, bow thruster and tnt lift. Cons-just going to cost you afew more bucks.
Nehalennia
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Here are the cons
Seriously, It's a great boat. I've seen Mad Dog's (haven't seen him post much in the last year) boat and it's great. I still think the 450DA is my style, but who knows by the time I can ever step up that far.
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450 owners don't need our own thread.
searay40dad
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- Oct 23, 2006
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i too moved from 00 400DB to this 01 480DB. steve pretty much captured it in a few words. although "...a few more bucks" may be understating it a tad. everything seems to be quite a bit more $$...spares, maintenance, etc. plus, alot more to keep clean above and below decks so dont forget your time. but, wow, these big girls really run...its addicting.
c'mon turtle, i see the owners club envy here...you cant hide it.
c'mon turtle, i see the owners club envy here...you cant hide it.
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No envy at all..........most 450DA owners know each other and we communicate when we need to.
searay40dad
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...and a good band of brothers you are...
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