460 DA Owners Thread

Discussion in 'Sport Yachts/Yachts' started by Russ Calasant, Feb 4, 2012.

  1. NotHerDecision

    NotHerDecision Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Jun 28, 2016
    Houston, Texas
    2001 Sea Ray 460 Sundancer
    2014 Seadoo 155 LTD
    2105 Seadoo 130 SE
    2013 Mercury Dinghy
    Cummins 6CTA 8.3L
    What wrong with the shower? Mine works perfect.
     
  2. Joint Custody

    Joint Custody Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    274
    Sep 20, 2017
    Lake Powell Utah
    2001 460 Sundancer
    Twin Cummins 6CTA8
    Ours is great as well.
    I’m a little on the OCD side. The track for the door just gets a little gunk up after showering.

    Funny thing is. The shower on the 460 was really one of the reasons we jumped from a 340 to the 460.
     
  3. Graham Lorimer

    Graham Lorimer Member

    418
    Feb 13, 2009
    Boat in Sant Carles, Spain. I live in Cheltenham,
    Sundancer 460 2002
    Volvo 480 HP
    Raymarine Electronics
    Avon 320DL RIB
    Yamaha 25HP 4 Stroke
    Volvo 74 TAMD EDC

    Yes I did it last year.

    Not a five minute job by any means, but I put a through-hull fitting up top (I sliced a piece off the rim so the hole was as low as possible to collect all the water), then ran a hose from the through-hull fitting and ran it out on the main cockpit floor. I did not want the water to drain into the storage area under the seats.

    A cheap but very useful solution to a design fault that annoyed me everytime I cleaned the teak cockpit floor.

    Can post a photo next week if needed, going down to the boat for 10 days on Sunday.


    Graham
     
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  4. NotHerDecision

    NotHerDecision Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Jun 28, 2016
    Houston, Texas
    2001 Sea Ray 460 Sundancer
    2014 Seadoo 155 LTD
    2105 Seadoo 130 SE
    2013 Mercury Dinghy
    Cummins 6CTA 8.3L
    Graham

    I would love to see your teak cockpit! I’m going to teak the swim platform I think.

    As far as the shower: try the daily shower cleaner by scrubbing bubbles. We keep it in the shower and spray it down after each use. You literally just spray it and walk away. It works like a champ!
     
  5. Jaws

    Jaws Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    619
    Nov 13, 2007
    Sarnia, Ontario
    460 Sundancer 2002
    Cummins 8.3 6CTA
    We have the same issue with the shower door track. Challenging to clean in one area so I will either try Q-tips or the cleanser mentioned above. I agree that the shower is a nice feature on this boat.

    BTW, I finally installed that larger 2 gallon accumulator tank mentioned in another thread. Had to use a "Starboard" mount because the tank mounting itself was too difficult to access without the backer. Anyways, it works great and is set to 37 psi (3 psi below the cut-in pressure of the Shurflo pumps.) The pumps run less now with no banging at all. The two gallon tank fits nicely where the original one litre tank was.
     
  6. WalterCarl

    WalterCarl New Member

    15
    Aug 14, 2019
    Chicago, Lake Michigan
    "ZHOPKA"
    2002 510 DA
    Twin Cummins QSM11's
    Hi Guys,

    New to the forum. We're getting ready to pull the trigger on a 2001 460. Brand new brown canvas has never seen the outdoors. Wondering if anyone wants, or knows someone who wants, to trade the light brown trade for new or newer black? If not, perhaps you could suggest another forum to trade and or a reputable canvas maker who won't gouge us. Thank you in advance. Can't wait to share my and borrow from the collective knowledge here...

    Walter
     
  7. NotHerDecision

    NotHerDecision Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Jun 28, 2016
    Houston, Texas
    2001 Sea Ray 460 Sundancer
    2014 Seadoo 155 LTD
    2105 Seadoo 130 SE
    2013 Mercury Dinghy
    Cummins 6CTA 8.3L
    I would suggest you just list the canvas in the classifieds section and have a black canvas custom made.

    Welcome to the group! Let's see some pics of your new boat and the engine room with those Awesome 3208's!

    Josh
     
    Last edited: Aug 14, 2019
  8. WalterCarl

    WalterCarl New Member

    15
    Aug 14, 2019
    Chicago, Lake Michigan
    "ZHOPKA"
    2002 510 DA
    Twin Cummins QSM11's
    Thank you Josh, good advice. We're still deciding on one of 3 right now. Once we figure it out, we'll post a "boat load" of pictures...
     
  9. NotHerDecision

    NotHerDecision Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Jun 28, 2016
    Houston, Texas
    2001 Sea Ray 460 Sundancer
    2014 Seadoo 155 LTD
    2105 Seadoo 130 SE
    2013 Mercury Dinghy
    Cummins 6CTA 8.3L
    Mind telling us where you boat?
     
  10. WalterCarl

    WalterCarl New Member

    15
    Aug 14, 2019
    Chicago, Lake Michigan
    "ZHOPKA"
    2002 510 DA
    Twin Cummins QSM11's
    We're in Chicago, Lake Michigan. It sucks to be looking for a new boat just in time for storage season!
     
  11. NotHerDecision

    NotHerDecision Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Jun 28, 2016
    Houston, Texas
    2001 Sea Ray 460 Sundancer
    2014 Seadoo 155 LTD
    2105 Seadoo 130 SE
    2013 Mercury Dinghy
    Cummins 6CTA 8.3L
    We moved to Texas from Milwaukee so not too far from where you are. Good news is you will have plenty to work on this winter while it’s in storage! This forum is amazing. Lots of great stuff on here and the people are great! The 460 is a classic boat with an awesome appeal and we are all excited to see your pics.

    You know.... you could bring it South for the winter!
     
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  12. BOB TYSON

    BOB TYSON Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    251
    Oct 5, 2017
    sarasota, fl
    2005 460 Sundancer
    Cummins 480 CE
    Welcome ! Great boat. Great site! Collective wisdom here will save you money and aggravation!
     
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  13. All's Well

    All's Well Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    661
    Jan 14, 2010
    Houston
    '12 58 Sundancer
    900 MAN
    Great cruising grounds, the 460 will be a great boat to take on some adventures
     
  14. Sea Ray Charlie

    Sea Ray Charlie New Member

    20
    Dec 13, 2017
    2003 460 Sundancer
    480CE
    Hi all, I'm having my props done and am seriosly considereing having them pitched according to the fuel burns that Tony from SeaBoard recommends for the 480CE (450 fuel curve). I've read through all of Tony's articels and have spoken with him (very helpful individual).

    Has anyone reduced the prop-pitch accordingly and if so, how much cruise speed did you loose? Any thoughts on engine experiences/failres in our boats (DA460), as the other posts in the forum seem to favor issues/failures associated with the DA390s?

    Any help is appreciated as always.
     
  15. Phillip Gaines

    Phillip Gaines Member

    55
    Jul 9, 2013
    Rome, Georgia
    2004 Sundancer 460
    Cummings 480CE
    I had mine done last winter. Depending on how many RPMs you need will dictate if you change the pitch
    or the cup. We ended up taking just a little cup out. It was amazing the difference it make in the engines
    at lower RPMs and cruise. The engines felt more alive and happy. We didnt see any loss of speed at cruise or WOT.

    Good Luck
     
  16. Sea Ray Charlie

    Sea Ray Charlie New Member

    20
    Dec 13, 2017
    2003 460 Sundancer
    480CE
    Thanks Phillip fior the response!

    How did you measure your needed rpms? The way I understand, in the 480CE, it's electronically governed, so the WOT RPM calibration method isn't an option. I'm being told to use GPH at 2200 RPM as the method by which to measure prop adjustment (prop adjust to 13.6 GPH).

    I'm wondering, if I set 13.6 gph/engine and record the RPMs, then give the prop shop the required RPM increase, if it will yield a correct prop adjustment?

    Any thoughts?
     
  17. fr8dog

    fr8dog Active Member

    297
    May 25, 2012
    Florida
    Currently Boatless
    460DA
    300DA
    370EC
    Boatless
    The suggested 2700 WOT rpm cannot quite be achieved, but you should be able to hit the governed rpm of 2680 with the boat fully loaded. As I propped my 460 I ended up with a set of Acme's at 24x25. This allowed the loaded boat to easily hit the governor limit and closely follow the 450 fuel curve. The boat was a bit under propped, but I was looking for that.
     
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  18. Phillip Gaines

    Phillip Gaines Member

    55
    Jul 9, 2013
    Rome, Georgia
    2004 Sundancer 460
    Cummings 480CE
    Charlie,

    Mike hit it on the head. When I started I was only getting 2600 max RPM on the starboard and 2590 on the port.
    I originally asked the prop shop to take some pitch out and they said that would be to much and they could be
    more precise and get me the 80-90 RPMs with a little cup removal. After hitting the 2680 I checked the fuel burn
    on the chart and they hit the numbers perfectly
     
  19. jjcllc328

    jjcllc328 Member

    98
    Oct 31, 2016
    Long Island
    previous Boats
    2005 320DA
    2000 Formula 27pc
    1987 regal seabring 19f
    2001 460 DA Cummins 6CTA Diamond Series
    Anyone know how to access the port windshield wiper motor?
    Thanks
     
  20. TheWolfTC

    TheWolfTC Active Member

    388
    Jul 11, 2012
    Elk Rapids
    1999 Sea Ray 460 Sundancer...Raider Marine Dinghy
    Twin Volvo Penta TAMD-73p EDC
    If I remember correctly, I saw it when I pulled the fridge out and was working back there and looked up and forward. I also think you can reach it through the speaker above the microwave, but that would be limited access.

    There are also access panels behind the microwave, but not sure 100% if you could reach the motor from there either.
     
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