420 DA Thread

Discussion in 'Sport Yachts/Yachts' started by Skip, Jan 16, 2007.

  1. JVM225

    JVM225 Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 8, 2008
    Farmingdale, NY
    2002 410 Sundancer, Monaco Edition.
    3126 Cats.
    Any problem with the wiring or breaker being to small? If so, how did you address the additional draw?
    My boat only has a 10 amp breaker and 14 gauge wire for the freshwater pump.
     
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  2. copb8tx

    copb8tx Well-Known Member

    Jan 26, 2008
    Lake Texoma, TX
    2005 420 Sundancer
    T-8.1S Horizons
    Mine has been fine and I didn't change any of the wiring. Only thing was the base mounting holes were not in the same position as original.
     
  3. Jaybeaux

    Jaybeaux Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    737
    Jan 3, 2016
    Upper Potomac River
    420 Sundancer 2004
    Naught On Call
    Cummins 6CTA-8.3's with V-Drives
    9KW Onan Genset
    Does anyone's Freshwater pump cycle every now and again? I mean, so infrequently that you just don't want to devote the time to hunt down that leak? I did. Maybe once an hour or so the pump would cycle on for just a few seconds. It wasn't enough to get the Admiral's attention, but it really did work on my nerves.

    This past Thursday, the pump was cycling every 10 minutes, if not less. It got so bad in the night, that I turned the breaker off. The next morning I began the search. Not seeing anything evident in the engine room, I went to the aft cabin. I pulled out the bed and removed the cushions so that I could see that "inspection hole". There was a bit of water on top. I turned on a faucet, and sure enough, the water was "wiggling", as if more water was coming in.

    I completely removed the aft cabin bed, which actually wasn't too hard. [​IMG]
    Zooming in to the water lines in the back....

    This last picture, you can see the hole, which was caused by the screw holding the sliding portion of the bed afixed to the foundation. There are 3 screws that hold this down in the back. The center screw is the one that cause a puncture. The screw on the starboard side, was also impinging on the water line. They used screws that were way too long!

    So if you are looking for something to do, remove one of those screws. If it is longer than 3/4" or maybe 1" max, then change them!

    Jaybeaux 20190920_135153.jpg 20190920_135206.jpg 20190920_135620.jpg 20190920_135627.jpg
     
  4. Jaybeaux

    Jaybeaux Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    737
    Jan 3, 2016
    Upper Potomac River
    420 Sundancer 2004
    Naught On Call
    Cummins 6CTA-8.3's with V-Drives
    9KW Onan Genset
    The culprit was the center screw in this picture. 20190920_202635.jpg
     
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  5. brewster16

    brewster16 Active Member

    442
    Aug 9, 2009
    Long Beach Island, N.J.
    '07 44 Sundancer
    Twin Cummins QSC 8.3
    Wow Jay.....good find! I just learned something new. Thanks!
     
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  6. villain style

    villain style Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Oct 10, 2006
    Mears Point Marina Kent Island, MD
    2006 44 DA
    QSC 8.3s
    Cummins QSC 8.3s 500HO
    Jaybeaux/Blueone - How far did you guys get with this project? I was cruising Saturday evening for the first evening run ever and I had no Instrument Illumination. I am already fighting electrical gremlins with my Port gauges not working but now they don't even illuminate. Either side.. Any ideas on what I should look at? I assume they come on when I turn my Navigation lights on.....
     
  7. brewster16

    brewster16 Active Member

    442
    Aug 9, 2009
    Long Beach Island, N.J.
    '07 44 Sundancer
    Twin Cummins QSC 8.3
    I don't really know about opening the instrument gauges up but I would simply suggest that you have indeed turned on your nav lights following which you will/should see your dash lights come on including the blue lights in the magnetic compass and the white remote radio control pad on the dash. I would mention that there is dimmer switch to control all the panel lights. So make sure that it's turned all the way up then decide if your gauge lights work or not.
     
  8. Jaybeaux

    Jaybeaux Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    737
    Jan 3, 2016
    Upper Potomac River
    420 Sundancer 2004
    Naught On Call
    Cummins 6CTA-8.3's with V-Drives
    9KW Onan Genset
    I called the instrument manufacturer. Unfortunately, my model year was the year they got "smart" and went to a sealed instrument. No way to replace the bulb. :(
     
  9. villain style

    villain style Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Oct 10, 2006
    Mears Point Marina Kent Island, MD
    2006 44 DA
    QSC 8.3s
    Cummins QSC 8.3s 500HO
    The compass was lit, I have replaced the halogen strip under the dash panel switches with an LED tape which works great, and the dimmer continued to work the LED strip. It was bright so I didn't attempt the dimmer, plus the compass was lit up. I'll work the dimmer and see what happens.
     
  10. Larry

    Larry Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Oct 19, 2006
    Oakland, NJ
    2004 42 Sundancer
    Hydraulic platform
    Cockpit air
    KVH M3
    450hp Cummins
    Added a 3rd screen where the glove box was located, Raymarine 9” Axiom fit perfectly NO cutting. If I or the next owner wants to they can take the screen out ant put the glove box back if wanted, no holes are even drilled. This screen will be primarily for my new PTZ FLIR. All screens/ autopilot/ heading sensor/ AIS/ 2 depth sounders are all linked through NMEA 2000

    Note mew steering wheel! ;)

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  11. swaterhouse

    swaterhouse Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    501
    Jan 7, 2015
    Mattapoisett, MA
    2007 Sundancer 44
    Cummins QSC 8.3
    got to love NMEA2000 - your the picture of interoperability!

    Raymarine, Garmin and Furuno all on the same dashboard!
     
  12. Larry

    Larry Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Oct 19, 2006
    Oakland, NJ
    2004 42 Sundancer
    Hydraulic platform
    Cockpit air
    KVH M3
    450hp Cummins
    Scott, I know it’s a little crazy but I really capitalize on the best that each offers. I was a little concerned about the different brands, but now with the FLIR the Raymarine Axiom offers there software that makes it really cool. And not to mention the latest software has the interface for the dji Mavic Pro!! ;)
     
  13. Robski97

    Robski97 Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jan 15, 2007
    North Bellmore, NY
    44DA
    Cummins QSC 8.3's
    I don't recall who wanted it , but I found the roll of boot stripe for the 44 DA with pewter hull . ( idk if its different for a white hull )

    Also does anyone have a source for the SUNDANCER Decal on the Port and STB of the hard top arch ?

    Rob
     
  14. villain style

    villain style Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Oct 10, 2006
    Mears Point Marina Kent Island, MD
    2006 44 DA
    QSC 8.3s
    Cummins QSC 8.3s 500HO
    Hey Rob - I asked about the boot stripe. Do you have order number details..
     
  15. Robski97

    Robski97 Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jan 15, 2007
    North Bellmore, NY
    44DA
    Cummins QSC 8.3's
    Email me and ill send u the roll . its a 150 foot roll so u have one time to screw up.
    Im painted now so I have no need. The boot came straight from searay. Part # S2186201 External # 1790430. Came from Universal products 1-800-835-2054 Web site WWW.u-p.com

    For anyone else .

    Rob
     
  16. Woody

    Woody Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Nov 20, 2007
    N. Wisconsin/Lk Superior
    2005 420DA
    Cummins 6CTA8.3
    I'm curious about the paint. How long have you had it, what you think of it. What type? What's involved to ready the boat? Do they just paint around windows, thru hulls? $ Cost?
     
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  17. kysearay

    kysearay Active Member

    182
    Jun 15, 2017
    KY
    42 Sundancer

    65 Monticello
    8.1's gassers
    Thanks alot Rob! Any pics after the paint?
    chris
     
  18. villain style

    villain style Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Oct 10, 2006
    Mears Point Marina Kent Island, MD
    2006 44 DA
    QSC 8.3s
    Cummins QSC 8.3s 500HO
    Thanks Rob - sending you a PM
     
  19. villain style

    villain style Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Oct 10, 2006
    Mears Point Marina Kent Island, MD
    2006 44 DA
    QSC 8.3s
    Cummins QSC 8.3s 500HO
    So this past weekend I learned a bit more about the Air Condition system and the importance of cleaning strainers. My salon AC unit was throwing a code of HI PS but the Stateroom AC was fine. I knew the code meant poor water flow. So I opened the strainer and sure enough it was clogged 90%. Cleaned it up and was ready to roll however, the pump itself was not pumping. I had water flow but it was humming and heating up only. I noticed that when I turned on the A/C from either thermostat that both pumps were being called on. I did not know both pumps come on/off at same time regardless of thermostat in use. I thought there was a pump for the Stateroom and the other pump was for Salon and cockpit. But regardless of which thermostat is calling both pumps will run. Apparently, the lack of water thru strainer fried my Salon AC pump so this morning a new one is being installed. Lesson learned -check them strainers.
     
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  20. Agentman

    Agentman New Member

    4
    Oct 4, 2019
    40 Sundancer 2006
    Cummins 5.9 380
    Any chance you still have the Ray240 handset?
     

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