420/44 DB Owners Club

Did it come with all chain rode? Guessing that might be the deciding factor at the factory.
On your predecessor, the 400 DB, the factory default was 25' chain and 220' of rope. That came with an anchor cleat to tie off the rope. The factory option of 200' of all chain deleted the anchor cleat and replaced it with the chain stop.
 
Interesting. My 2006 44DB did not have a chain stop at all.

Did you have a combination rode?
I have always been under the impression that boats that came from the factory with the all chain option have the chain stop, boats that are combination chain/rope have a cleat.
I have the chain stop, but there are times when I wish I had a cleat also.
 
Thanks for the reply. It appears to be the same roller. If you happen to be at the boat and grab a picture than great, but don't go out of your way. This sounds like a good option. I would likely modify similarly. OR i could always go with the new Vulcan style. Although i have heard its not quite as good as the original Rocna.

I grabbed this picture last week and then forgot to post it. The posts above reminded me, sorry for the delay.
As you can see, not much had to go, just about 3/16".
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As a fyi, now when the anchor is hauled all the way in, it comes home against the top roller and the very bottom of the assembly as shown by the red arrow. The 25 may fit differently.
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I just picked up 100' of chain and a Rocna 25. Pretty good deal at Defender with their Defender 1st membership. Now to installing it this weekend. I also picked up the material to make a bridle. Time to go watch some videos on how to splice onto the thimble.
 
I just picked up 100' of chain and a Rocna 25. Pretty good deal at Defender with their Defender 1st membership. Now to installing it this weekend. I also picked up the material to make a bridle. Time to go watch some videos on how to splice onto the thimble.

I recently purchased a chain hook from Mantus and created a bridal. YouTube has some great videos on creating eye splices. My splices may not win a beauty contest but, I guarantee they will hold.

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Well, that is a good question that I'm not able to answer definitively. I have the 6CTA mechanical engines (which I'm very happy with) and comparing performance with others on this forum I seem to be right there in the lower RPM range but see a big difference at cruising/WOT. I'm confident that engines are working properly (i.e. I reach a WOT of 2700RPM, boost pressure from the survey was right on) but I don't seem to get the top end speed. Can't be sure that the hydraulic lift/dinghy/outboard weight is the reason … just don't know yet. For our cruising, we don't run on plane that often so it is really not much of a problem. We have 200' of all chain in the front and with the lift/dinghy the boat seems well balanced.

One thing we have noticed with the platform is the increased 'deck' space. With the dinghy off or course, it adds a nice amount of space when entertaining. Ours is a Walker Bay Odyssey365 console that is about 11.5' if I remember, pushed by a 30hp Tohatsu. We are super pleased with this combination! Big enough to handle the chop and scoots along very nicely.
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I have the exact same set up. Tender and all. I haven't notice fuel burn differences, but I do know that even with the tabs pushed down, my ass squats lower in the water. This makes water "splash" more from the sides and also pushes water back up my cockpit engine hatch drains. If you notice your cockpit carpet getting wet, that's why. With that said...I LOVE the setup. We love tender rides and this setup is sweet and the envy of any anchorage.
 
You should be able to see the hose from the valve going to the racor. Got to be that one....

Bennett
Sorry for my slow response. I didn't check for replies soon enough. Yes, I did get an answer, but I have not yet had the opportunity to look for and find the other shutoff valve on top of each tank. I'm sure you are both correct - it's there and I just didn't find it.

Thanks again.

Chip
 
Sorry for my slow response. I didn't check for replies soon enough. Yes, I did get an answer, but I have not yet had the opportunity to look for and find the other shutoff valve on top of each tank. I'm sure you are both correct - it's there and I just didn't find it.

Thanks again.

Chip
I'm winterizing on Saturday. If I remember I'll take a pic and post it.
 
Gents - In winterizing my CTA's do i need to clamp the lines going to the dripless shaft seals so the pink makes it all the way through the system?
 
I recently purchased a chain hook from Mantus and created a bridal. YouTube has some great videos on creating eye splices. My splices may not win a beauty contest but, I guarantee they will hold.

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Keith,

How many feet of line did you use on each side of your bridle?

Best to you and Kimberly!
 
Gents - In winterizing my CTA's do i need to clamp the lines going to the dripless shaft seals so the pink makes it all the way through the system?
Good question. I have never worried about it...but, I keep my boat in MD, not CT.
 
I recently purchased a chain hook from Mantus and created a bridal. YouTube has some great videos on creating eye splices. My splices may not win a beauty contest but, I guarantee they will hold.

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It would seem that the binding at the thimble would be a weak spot and eventually pull apart - not that it would affect the strength but it would slide around the thimble and potentially be a chafing concern. Were/are you concerned at all? Based on what I have read it seemed that a 'separate' line to each side was 'best'.

The Mantus bridle has one line from the thimble and then they braid it to branch off to the two lines. I made mine as well but ended up putting two shackles on the Mantus hook.
 
Keith,

How many feet of line did you use on each side of your bridle?

Best to you and Kimberly!

Hey Carter, hope things are going great for you guys and sorry we missed each other in Orange Beach. I created the bridal with 16' on each leg. I've used it a few times and have to say it may have been the $100 investment for the boat.
 
It would seem that the binding at the thimble would be a weak spot and eventually pull apart - not that it would affect the strength but it would slide around the thimble and potentially be a chafing concern. Were/are you concerned at all? Based on what I have read it seemed that a 'separate' line to each side was 'best'.

The Mantus bridle has one line from the thimble and then they braid it to branch off to the two lines. I made mine as well but ended up putting two shackles on the Mantus hook.

I considered creating the bridal with two separate thimbles on each leg but, decided to use the chafe guard and sew a single thimble in. I may change it in the future but, I think this will hold up pretty well. Plus, if it does fail the chain picks up the load with no safety risk.
 
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Thanks Brian, very good idea! Did you find much water in it when you first opened it up?

It has taken me a while to open up my walkway after reading the posts on trapped water. I removed close to 20 Gal of water from my walkway. This is a new to me boat and the previous owner was not one to keep a dry bilge and the water enters through little cracks or voids in the fiberglass tabs used to install the walkway. I discovered this after I repaired all the leaks and got a dry bilge. Every time I ran the boat water would fill the rear sump. I went into the engine room to look for the leak while underway and found water dripping out around the walkway! This will be repaired with some glass cloth in the near future.
Thanks to this site and all the members for putting all of this great info out there.
 

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