410 Sundancer/Express Cruiser and 400 Sundancer/Express Cruiser **Official Thread**

For me I went with diesel just for dependability and safety. GAS boats blow up , diesel does not. I would rather put up with diesel fumes on occasion instead of burning flesh and death. I am funny that way , All about saftey
 
Dono10 said:
Hey mistercomputerman,
I would love to hear your opinion on the 410 with gas power. I'm not hear to start a gas vs diesel debate. Just looking for someone with real experience running a big gasser. Are you satisfied with the performance of your boat? Would you go diesel next time considering the added cost upfront and maintenance?
Thanks, Dono10
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Call me at 757-333-3299 x200 when you have some time to chat. Long story short - I am not unhappy with the gassers. But, I would buy the boat with diesels if I had to do it all over again.
 
Thanks for the replies. Didn't mean fire everyone up. Lol. I will give you a call mistercomputerman.
 
mtnandy said:
For me I went with diesel just for dependability and safety. GAS boats blow up , diesel does not. I would rather put up with diesel fumes on occasion instead of burning flesh and death. I am funny that way , All about saftey
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I have not seen many gasers blow. However.....wonder why nearly every home has natural gas vs. fuel oil? Just saying!
 
TIDALWAVE said:
I have not seen many gasers blow. However.....wonder why nearly every home has natural gas vs. fuel oil? Just saying!
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Because it is easy to pump to homes, no need for a tank, no need for trucks delivering oil, it burns cleaner and requires a cheaper furnace and water heater. But, it was not a safety decision. Natural gas is very flammable, diesel oil isn’t. If a home has a natural gas leak, all it takes is a spark and baboom. No baboom with oil leak.
 
THJeff said:
Ear piercing? Mine has a faint squeal as I go onto plane and then nothing. I only hear that because I'm listening for it. My passengers don't even notice it.
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When the admiral says no way, then it's ear piercing. We take long 6 hour runs so that just doesn't work. At least with the boat we tested.
 
Guys, I hate the toilets on my boat. I'm not a big person and these bowls feel like they are half the size of the ones at my house. I have seen a couple of old threads about adding an elongated bowl and keeping the rest of the system but I can't find the threads anymore. Does anyone have any part numbers or has done this upgrade and can give some tips?
 
Dono10 I have the 7.4's in my 400 and I'm extremely happy with them. I was a little nervous that they were going to be underpowered for the 400 but they are not. The boat planes with ease. I am on Lake St. Clair also and most of the time our trip consists of 7 to 10 miles, raftoff with some friends and then 7 to 10 miles back to the marina. So the fuel saving wasn't an issue for me. We take the boat to Cedar Point, Lexington (met Captain Brian here a few years ago) , Port Huron and a few other places also, but for the most part just short trip to the swim holes (Fisher, Goose, Little Moot, Poormans, etc.). I actually prefer the gas just because of my boating style. I would have bought either gas or diesel as long as it was a 99' 400 Sundancer (that's a whole other story). I actually think that the diesels are probably the smarter buy as far as fuel economy, resale and handling goes, but for me it didn't matter much. Good luck with the search and maybe we'll see you on the lake. I'm at Beacon Cove by the way.
 
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This is what 2 days spent below the rubrails with my Makita produced last weekend.
Heavy cut compound with aggressive wool pad on blue and a few spots on the white.
Fine cut polish with polish wool pad on everything below the rubrails.
Two coats of Collinite Insulator Wax applied by hand to keep her protected.
She’s all ready to be wrapped for the winter nap now.
Whole body is still hurting but it was worth it.
I’ll probably have to hit a few spots again quickly with the machine when she gets unwrapped in April to correct anything that might happen over the winter, and then another two coats of Collinite before she goes back in the water.
Absolutely love the blue stripe now that it’s all shiny and new, but glad I didn’t get a blue bull. Don’t think my 63 year old bones have that much machine work in them anymore.
 

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Hoping to get her to where my old boat was. This is what the hull of that one looked like a few weeks before I sold her. She was almost 30 years old at the time:
 
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