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Has Anyone redone the packing in their rudder stuffing boxes? Mine had a steady flow by the end of the season so I need to get it done. If so how much of a job is it to get to? What was the easiest way to get to them? do you have to pull of the exhaust system, or it there a trick to getting back there?
 
Jason, this is one part of the 400DB that Sea Ray missed the mark. The port rudder seal is extremely difficult to access. I just had my seals replaced at the boat yard, and they had to employ a very thin contortionist to do the job. He just had to pull the batteries.
 
Main lines. Travel up the length of the boat and 15mm lines branch off to fixtures. Don’t know exactly from memory.
 
What are you up to? Might be able to help.

piecing together the exact parts needed for a hot water heater bypass. Deciding if I want a temp bypass for now, or if - since I’m going to disassemble lines anyway - add the valves for a permanent bypass. Regardless, I don’t want to make multiple trips to the store so I want to buy the right sized plumbing the first time.

Based on the parts manual, and me eyes, it looks like it’s all Seatech metric stuff. (However the new metric stuff is black). The Whale stuff says it’s only good with their hoses. Those aren’t on our boats, I don’t think. So I’m not sure how it would work, mixing it with the Seatech. Adding to my frustration, Defender is out of the Seatech 15mm valves and Amazon has no 15mm products. So that’s also why I’m considering a temp bypass using just unions.
 
Gotcha. FWIW, I just release the two 15mm lines out of the water heater and connect them together using two 15mm elbows and a short piece of 15mm water line. In the spring, I throw the "pigtail" consisting of the 3 pieces just mentioned in the parts bin and do it again in the fall. In the mean time the 2 elbows are spares should something go wrong during the season. I usually buy all my seatech stuff from freshwaterSystems.com
 
Gotcha. FWIW, I just release the two 15mm lines out of the water heater and connect them together using two 15mm elbows and a short piece of 15mm water line. In the spring, I throw the "pigtail" consisting of the 3 pieces just mentioned in the parts bin and do it again in the fall. In the mean time the 2 elbows are spares should something go wrong during the season. I usually but all my seatech stuff from freshwaterSystems.com

you know, that’s probably the easiest way to do it. And a very cost effective way! Thanks!
 
you know, that’s probably the easiest way to do it. And a very cost effective way! Thanks!
What I do is even easier just release the hot and cold lines from the main water lines and release one of the hoses totally from the water heater take that hose and loop it to the hot line and cold line this way no need for a connector
 
Hey all, Midwestern boater question.

Suppose I want to move to Florida. Would it be stupid and/or crazy to bring "Unwound" with us? (Gas engines) Obviously the move is going to cost a fortune and we'll need electronics to stay safe once there. This is a freshwater only boat so most of my gut says leave her here and find another but we really, really, like this boat. She's the cleanest one we ever found in two years of searching and still would put any "showroom condition" boat to shame.
 
Hey all, Midwestern boater question.

Suppose I want to move to Florida. Would it be stupid and/or crazy to bring "Unwound" with us? (Gas engines) Obviously the move is going to cost a fortune and we'll need electronics to stay safe once there. This is a freshwater only boat so most of my gut says leave her here and find another but we really, really, like this boat. She's the cleanest one we ever found in two years of searching and still would put any "showroom condition" boat to shame.
I was in the same situation in 2013. I decided to sell the gasser and buy a diesel. I knew my boating style would change to long range cruises thanks to offshore and the ICW.
 
Has anyone ever replaced the "thru hull" 90 degree plastic drain fitting that sits in each corner of their lazarette drain channel directly under the lid? I have a cracked one leaking water on to my battery tray below, and subsequently rotting it out. This way when we bought it, and one of the last things on the list to fix this winter. The part number from Sea Ray is 266130. I haven't been able to find it anywhere. It's the same fitting as the hatch lip drain in the anchor locker. I've attached a pic of my anchor locker version. I believe it takes a 1' hose. Please disregard the dirt....Haven't needed to open the anchor locker all season. I'm not against a stainless or bronze version that would work.
 

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Hey all, Midwestern boater question.

Suppose I want to move to Florida. Would it be stupid and/or crazy to bring "Unwound" with us? (Gas engines) Obviously the move is going to cost a fortune and we'll need electronics to stay safe once there. This is a freshwater only boat so most of my gut says leave her here and find another but we really, really, like this boat. She's the cleanest one we ever found in two years of searching and still would put any "showroom condition" boat to shame.
Wife and I just had this conversation last night.... We were in Florida 9 days the week before last, and were doing a little shopping around of towns that we might like to end up in one day. We intend to do the loop in a few years, and may or may not do it with our gasser 400. We love this boat, and have poured a tremendous amount of time and money into it to keep for the long term. I know that it's a heavily debated topic, but I don't know that the diesel guys are getting that much better fuel mileage than we are. I'm sure that I'm completely wrong on this.... We need to do a long solid 9 mph cruise one day to see how we really fare. Last year with around 100 hours in the season, we averaged 14 gph. Some idle of course, but mostly just on plane at about 14-15 mph at my sweet spot of 3200 rpm.
 
Wife and I just had this conversation last night.... We were in Florida 9 days the week before last, and were doing a little shopping around of towns that we might like to end up in one day. We intend to do the loop in a few years, and may or may not do it with our gasser 400. We love this boat, and have poured a tremendous amount of time and money into it to keep for the long term. I know that it's a heavily debated topic, but I don't know that the diesel guys are getting that much better fuel mileage than we are. I'm sure that I'm completely wrong on this.... We need to do a long solid 9 mph cruise one day to see how we really fare. Last year with around 100 hours in the season, we averaged 14 gph. Some idle of course, but mostly just on plane at about 14-15 mph at my sweet spot of 3200 rpm.
That should be 14gph per engine at 3200rpm, correct. Us Cummins owners go about 10mph faster (25ish mph) at 28gph (2200rpm). The CAT boats burn even a little less fuel than that. Plus diesel is quite a bit less expensive at the pump.

So you are actually on plane at 14-15mph? I've never tried it, I figured I'd be plowing.
 
Has anyone ever replaced the "thru hull" 90 degree plastic drain fitting that sits in each corner of their lazarette drain channel directly under the lid? I have a cracked one leaking water on to my battery tray below, and subsequently rotting it out. This way when we bought it, and one of the last things on the list to fix this winter. The part number from Sea Ray is 266130. I haven't been able to find it anywhere. It's the same fitting as the hatch lip drain in the anchor locker. I've attached a pic of my anchor locker version. I believe it takes a 1' hose. Please disregard the dirt....Haven't needed to open the anchor locker all season. I'm not against a stainless or bronze version that would work.

I spent a significant amount of time searching for the same part earlier this year. This is the closest I could come up with...not an exact match but it fits and does the job.

https://www.opentip.com/product.php?products_id=667260&utm_source=email&utm_medium=review
 
Wife and I just had this conversation last night.... We were in Florida 9 days the week before last, and were doing a little shopping around of towns that we might like to end up in one day. We intend to do the loop in a few years, and may or may not do it with our gasser 400. We love this boat, and have poured a tremendous amount of time and money into it to keep for the long term. I know that it's a heavily debated topic, but I don't know that the diesel guys are getting that much better fuel mileage than we are. I'm sure that I'm completely wrong on this.... We need to do a long solid 9 mph cruise one day to see how we really fare. Last year with around 100 hours in the season, we averaged 14 gph. Some idle of course, but mostly just on plane at about 14-15 mph at my sweet spot of 3200 rpm.
I burn 22GPH @ 2400 RPM moving at about 21.5 knots (25 Mph) with my CAT 3116’s. At 2200 RPM I burn 18 GPH at 18-19 knots.

I was paying about a $1.00 less per gallon for the diesel than the gas boats this summer.

Putting a couple hundred gallons in at time adds up to some big dollars by the end of the year.
 
That should be 14gph per engine at 3200rpm, correct. Us Cummins owners go about 10mph faster (25ish mph) at 28gph (2200rpm). The CAT boats burn even a little less fuel than that. Plus diesel is quite a bit less expensive at the pump.

So you are actually on plane at 14-15mph? I've never tried it, I figured I'd be plowing.
A seasonal average of 14 gph. I'm sure it's a little more at 3200. I do think that you diesel guys are faster. I've seen 30 mph out of the boat w/ close to empty tanks, no water, and 2 people on board. 25-26 mph is about all I can get normally loaded.
 

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