340 sundancer generator or not

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  1. crtvlmnts

    crtvlmnts New Member

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    Aug 12, 2016
    Kenosha, WI
    '05 320 Sundancer
    350 Hoizons V drives
    As long as the consensus is generator without hesitation, what are the thoughts on adding one to a '01 340 after the fact? I really like the 8.1 engine option and low hour aspect of this boat. If I can buy right, is adding it down the road feasible? I am prepared for $10k but if that value can be recouped on resale, I might be all in.

    I know the panel has space fillers where the label says "generator" however I haven't been able to confirm if it was pre-wired for it (was that even an option in '01)


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  2. dpmulvey

    dpmulvey New Member

    Dec 19, 2007
    Homeport: Charles City, VA
    1999/2007 330 Sundancer Hardtop.
    6.2 Merc Horixons
    1.5:1 Velvet Drives
    I have a '99 with a gennie. I seriously doubt your possible choice was pre-wired. Bean counters wouldn't allow it. I could be wrong..... But I doubt it.... Barring the lack of an ISO standard, It would make too much sense to pre-wire at the factory.

    To to answer your question, you will NOT recover the value on resale. Value is a buyers only view. What you will get on install is the boat you want. On resale in any given market, you will be a step above the same boat w/o a gennie leading to a faster sale unless the non gennie boat discounts the selling price by a gennie plus retrofit cost. Unless one is a serious boater who has done the homework assignment (including the pros and cons of a Honda on the platform) it ain't gonna sell. It's part of the instant gratification mentality. Casting a wide net, anticipate a 20 to 50 cent on the dollar ROI.

    I would do my homework as to the REAL selling price of this model year. KBB may be of some help to start. Then I would honestly reverse engineer the offer. Here is the KBB with a gennie. Here is the KBB without a gennie. Here is the local market price for your boat. Here is my offer. The delta is the average of three quotes to retrofit a gennie.

    Or or you could give all your needs and wants and bottom line to a hired gun (buyers agent) and let him/her do the leg work.
     
  3. tdschafer

    tdschafer Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Aug 24, 2009
    Long island , NY
    1997 330 sundancer
    twin 454's, Carb, V-Drives
    That seems like a lot to go through to add the genny. I would just keep looking until "the boat" comes along. There has to be more than two 340's for sale in your area.

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  4. Larry

    Larry Active Member

    Oct 19, 2006
    Oakland, NJ
    2004 42 Sundancer
    Hydraulic platform
    Cockpit air
    KVH M3
    450hp Cummins
    I have owned my 330 Sundancer with NO generator for about 13 years, we use it a lot for weekend outings as well as fairly extensive trips (200-300 miles each). When we travel we primarily stay in marinas, but do occasionally do stay overnight on the hook but we choose our nights based on weather. I do not see a gas generator being a deal breaker on a gas boat, I would never sleep with a gas generator running all night anyway, if it was diesel I would definitely feel more comfortable sleeping with it running. I can run my boat on the hook with my TV, both refrigerators, lights, water pumps, and head for up to 2-3 days with no issues, we do have a engine heat exchanger for hot water and we do run a small inverter for small appliances. When at anchor with hatches open it is almost always very comfortable. If you plan on staying on the hook often I would say a generator is more important to you then to me as I rather stay in a marina other then just a handful of nights per year. Personally I think most gas generators are noisy and obnoxiously loud, I would rather spend $2k and install a large inverter with a few golf cart batteries if I really was concerned.
     
  5. rcknecht

    rcknecht Active Member

    Mar 23, 2009
    toms river,nj
    340 Sundancer 2001
    T 454 MPI
    First, even prewired, a new generator for a 340 now cost $12 without installation... Second, I agree with Larry, the juice is not worth the squeeze... An invertor is good enough, as long as you don't live in the deep south...
     
  6. Creekwood

    Creekwood Well-Known Member

    Apr 26, 2009
    Oakville and Georgian Bay, Ontario
    '97 330 Sundancer, Raymarine C80 suite with radar, Mercury 310 Hypalon w/8hp Yammie 2stk
    2X 454 carbs w/ vDrives
    No generator on my 330. It would be "nice" to have if I stayed on the hook a lot, but I don't use my boat much like that. I find with a butane burner and BBQ, along with the golf cart house batter bank and inverter for running the microwave, I am good to go for 2-3 days cooking whatever we need. Our summers can get hot, but normally nights are pleasant so AC on a boat is not necessary here. I think we are warmer than WI here in summer. Up here in the tranquil north, running a generator at night is considered rude, and I would not run a gas one while sleeping at all. IMO, the lack of a generator would not be a deal breaker, especially if you can us that as a negotiation point to get a better price.
     
  7. sbw1

    sbw1 Well-Known Member

    Oct 10, 2006
    West Michigan
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    I suppose the real answer to the question is what an individual owner wants to do. If the deal depends on a $10,000 install and 8.1s, then that deal probably will not happen. Adding a genny is more likely to run $15,000 at a minimum and maybe $20,000. If the 8.1s are the priority, then be prepared to enjoy fewer boating options and save the money. While we are at it, why add a Koehler genny if you are starting fresh? Westerbeck makes a 5Kw that is so quiet it is hardly noticeable. On a quiet evening we hear a little burbling sound under our swim platform at anchor and nothing at all from 20 feet away. Inside the boat the sound is from the bilge blower, also not very loud. We paid a little extra for the genny but our season is truly 6 months and it is comfortable regardless of the temps or rain. If you enjoy that sort of activity, the genny is the best way to go.
     
  8. CliffA

    CliffA Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Dec 29, 2009
    Lake Norman, NC
    2001 Sea Ray 340DA
    Name: 'Happy Place'
    4.5kW West. Generator
    Purchased Nov. 2014
    Fresh Water Use
    Twin Merc. 6.2L (MPI)
    Raw Water Cooled
    V-Drive Transmissions
    +1....the other day i had to ask one of my guest that was sitting in the cockpit rear seats if my Westerbeke genny was still running while on a slow speed cocktail cruise.....I could not hear it running from the Captain's seat......my guest had to visually verify that water was still pumping before she answered me.....

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  9. Strecker25

    Strecker25 Well-Known Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    1998 290 Sundancer
    Twin 5.7EFI/Alphas, Kohler 4kw
    You guys are lucky. Our Kohler 5esz is incredibly loud in the cockpit, and we could never sleep with it running it's so deafening in the cabin. Much smaller boat that what you're talking about, but the thing is really loud.
     
  10. jthatcher

    jthatcher Member

    307
    Jul 27, 2014
    Nashville, TN
    1990 310 Sundancer
    7.4L V Drive
    9.0 BTC Westerbeke
    My 9k Westerbeke is incredibly quiet as well.


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