33 Express Cruiser for sale in AL - Anyone know who's boat this is?

I don't know that boat but it smells fishy. Those 6.2 wouldn't push her more than 25knts and they would be straining to do that. Why a new genny too? Seems like she was re powered on the cheap and all three power plants don't just go out at the same time. Something just doesn't feel right
 
It was common for people to repower 454 powered boats with 383s - because the peak HP was close they were marketed as a suitable replacement - however, the 383s are small blocks and the 454s are big blocks with a much fatter torque curve. I would really want to sea trial that boat fully loaded to see how it did. I LOVE the 330EC/340AJ - my favorite sea ray ever! I agree, while the boat is of the age that a repower could be necessary if it was heavily used, it could have sunk too - if that was the case, the wiring system, fuel system, soft goods, etc would all show signs - proceed with caution
 
That's too much boat for the 6.2's. You would need the crap out of those engines to make it go. I don't think the boat looks like its been underwater, it's just rough. Looks like a repower on the cheep. That boat needs 8.1 or 8.2s.
 
I agree with the power comments already made. These boats came equipped with 7.4's until mid 2001 then changed to 8.1's (diesel was also available). I noticed that this boat did not actually have the Lounge option. Someone got an Lounge and stuck it in the back, but there is no padding along the area for your back (other than where the pull out seat is).
 
I don't know, my 2002 320DA had 5.7 Mercs and seemed fine. This isn't that much more boat and it has 20HP more per engine. Should be fine but a tad high priced maybe. The cockpit seat isn't standard I don't believe. It sits over a hatch and is to tight against factory installed equipment.
 
I would get a real good look and then, a serious survey to ensure that it had not been a Storm boat that was imitating a submarine.
Its very hard to tell if a boat went under (or partly under) and it will take some investigative skill to ensure its ok. F.Y.I. Most surveys won't remove any panels looking for such evidence.

At first glance a lot of the equipment that would fail if it got wet, are replaced on this boat.
Engines, generator, some gauges, fridge, electronics look cobbled together and the dash panel doesn't match......doesn't smell right.

Could be a great boat if it checks out.
I would be as cautious with any used boat after all the storms we have had in recent years.
If you can get the history of that boat, it would help. Not too hard if it is or was documented.

It just, so many boats were trucked all over to get repaired and then offered for sale.
Theres no salvage title for boats in many (all?) states!

Good luck,
 
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That boat is heavier than a 33DA and wider. 6.2s may not have enough butt to make you happy with their performance in that boat.
 
I think the LOA on it is close to 38" and shes got a fat fat (13.5' beam) a$$ and she weighs 16,500 DRY. The 6.2's would move her but they would be a pig on gas, fail prematurely because the hp would have to be achieved at near WOT, and the lack of torque would make her a bear around the dock.

There are plenty of other ones out there. Tell your friend to pass on this one as I think he will be disappointed. Like others have said she needs 7.4 at a minimum, 8.1 or 8.2's are adequate, and diesels would be ideal.
 
It's been 9 years since a storm went thru (Hurricane Ivan - a BIG one, Cat 5) that would cause a mass sinking. Still could have been a one-off trip to the bottom. My prior 300 sundancer had twin 260 HP engines and they were plenty of power
 
We've got 3 wide body 330EC's that have been re-powered with new 6.2L crate inboards. These are 377 cid engines rated @ higher HP than the 310hp 7.4's they replaced. If you get in one of them, you would never know they were smaller engines until you try to run 30 mph. Their top end is a little lower, but the pay back is that the 6.2 is significantly more fuel efficient. Owners of these boats don't usually cruise them.....they are primarily fishing and diving boats and fuel economy is a lot more important than top speed to t heir owners. Excuse me for being a dissenting voice here, but I'm just not going to buy that a 320hp 377 CID engine will be over stressed when a 310 hp 454 cid engine will not.

As far as sinking, could be, but boats in this area are no more subject to sinking than anywhere else. Those of us who lie and boat on thew Gulf coast know what to expect and how to handle a hurricane. Very few boats are severely damages unless there is a Cat 4 or 5 blow. ........and who in the right mind is going to haul a repaired boat to Orange Beach, Alabama to sell it? There is a 12 month a year selling season and a steady demand for fish boats in South Florida and that is where one takes a boat to sell it.

I think this boat might be a sleeper if its condition is right.
 
Not trying to argue but I think it's more about torque that horsepower. To achieve the needed torque I suspect these engines will need to cruise around 4000 RPM. There is the old saying "no replacement for displacement". I looked very hard at the EC/Amberjack before buying the Tiara. This is a big boat for small block engines.
One issue with these is make sure the deck forward of the windshield is not wet. Seemed to be some did not have the windshield screws sealed good leading to a wet fore deck.
 
docofthebay said:
It's been 9 years since a storm went thru (Hurricane Ivan - a BIG one, Cat 5) that would cause a mass sinking. Still could have been a one-off trip to the bottom. My prior 300 sundancer had twin 260 HP engines and they were plenty of power
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One year ago "Sandy" wrecked over 65,000 recreational boats.
You don't think there all staying in the North East to be repaired and sold.
Boats were trucked everywhere......
 
The economics don't work for this to be a boat brought to the south the dump. To total it, its repair cost would have had to be in the $40,000 area, then to move it south would have been about $10/mile due to its beam. Orange Beach is a location full of second homes so it just isn't a mecca of boat sales. Nearly every boat there came from somewhere else. To flip a damage repair, the boat would have gone to South Fla, if it were brought to the Gulf coast at all. And last, there is a bit of local knowledge here, but the 330EC is listed with The Marine Group, a very well respected brokerage high class operation with very professional brokers.......the value of their average listing is probably $500,000 and up and they wouldn't knowingly handle a salvage boat.

I guess anything could have happened in the past, but just because a boat is for sale on the Gulf Coast or has had 7.4L Mercs (known to ingest water every 5 years thru risers) replaced by newer engines doesn't mean the boat has been sunk. In fact, (Navy Canvas, gas engines,- I just wish the name were still on her) I think this might be a boat that was sold in Panama City FL and kept at our marina for the first few years of its life then moved to Ono Island to a home the owner bought there in about 2005. If I am right, the boat has been maintained with an open checkbook by the best service company the owner could find.
 
All I was suggesting is "buyer beware" with any boat.
I trust few when it comes to money.

This boat doesn't look open check book to me because, of the mismatched equipment, dirty carpet and dorm room fridge installed in the galley.

It might be great but, it might not.
 
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I think Frank is right. This could be a sleeper. It looks to be offered by a reputable broker. It has AL registration numbers. I'd check that out and see how far back the registration goes if possible.
 
Still going to be a skeptic here in regards to power. A prime example is those of us that own a new style 340. Would you ever want anything less than the 8.1's? Every time someone starts looking for one the #1 piece of advice is do not get one with 6.2's as it will be underpowered. I think the same holds true with a wider heavier boat as it is in this case.
 
This one is very nice with correct power for less money.http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/199...23927/Knoxville/TN/United-States#.Utl-CK0o6P8
I would run away from the original posted one. For Pete's sake the broker could have waited for a sunny day to take pics. I was very involved in the listing of my 300DA and it sold in 2 weeks. In my opinion that is a poor job of listing the boat. It is dirty and light for pics is not good. Attention to details people!
 
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