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Discussion in 'West Coast' started by Shoyrtt, Oct 7, 2021.
I received this notice from my marina today.
I haven’t seen much news here in the mid west….. I heard once it might be an anchor the ruptured the pipeline?
There was a story on the news that the pressure dropped on the pipeline 12 hours before they decided to shut it off. Then something like 8 more hours before they notified the authorities of the spill. Heads will roll over this one for sure.
But, why are cargo ships permitted to anchor in an area with an under water pipeline? That is plain stupid.
I was just talking to a friend who containers CNC machines from Japan….. a simple 2 axis lathe was $8k to float over pre covid….. today they are paying $24k….or we are paying and they can’t get the ship to port.
Where is Biden on this monumental problem driving up inflation ?…. And now a California environmental problem…. Oh dear
They probably aren’t. But a dumbass captain may have not realized it.
We had an incident here in Lake Michigan a few years ago. The chain lock on a freighter anchor gave way without the knowledge of the crew in the Straits of Mackinac. The anchor drug the bottom and while it missed an oil pipeline (Line 5), it did catch a high voltage line on the lake bed and ripped it to shreds. The freighter didn’t realize until they got to Chicago 300 miles later when they pulled up the anchor chain and the anchor was long gone.
I saw a graphic this morning. It had dozens of ships anchored in the area of the pipeline.
And we wonder why there isn’t -100 anti freeze and 5gl Rotella buckets
Blue, not all of those are container ships.
Pre-covid $2,500 -> $22,000+ now, per container. They are trying to stick the ships wherever, some anchored and many starting to just drift. Thanks to AIS, the USCG should be able to find out the at fault vessel...
Ya I know but visually looked good…..going for effect
And the sheep will believe it!
@Shoyrtt I'm assuming if you got a notice like that, no boats can leave your marina?
So the same antics as being used over on the vaccine thread??
Now you are getting it…. Now go watch CNN and it will all make sense
Be careful guys, this oil spill notice thread will be dumped in the crapper tank
One reason for the back up at the ports is the new California law brought to you by Newsome and company, The elimination of sub contract or 1099 employment. A lot of the cargo on those ships is carried over the roads by what used to be independent contract truckers. Many have left the state or found other work leaving a big void in the supply chain. This was done right in the middle of the pandemic so on top of the protocols to isolate any covid cases by contact tracing which would put entire shift crews out of service really added to the back up. The virus has been known to spread thru certain communities mainly those of people of color which by and large make up the majority of the port workers.
In any case this issue is expected to take several more months to clear out the back up. I imagine one of those ships out there has my Ray63 radio on it which I ordered in March
@Carpediem44DB my wife says that trucker change happened pre-covid. I think she's at 100+ containers at anchor now.
Not surprised newsome was an idiot pre-covid
There are lots of causes to the back up at the ports (probably enough to fill an entire new thread) but the 1099 issue dates back a few years ago from the CA Supreme Court's decision. The CA legislature did what they do to back the unions with the new restrictive law. The law was tied up in the Federal courts with injunctions the last time I checked. On the ground here (my home marina is adjacent to the Port of LA) the truck traffic is just as busy as ever, clogging the 710 and 110 freeways out of the LB and LA ports. The other causes to the back up include, unions limiting 24/7 hour operations, the lack of commercial warehouse space in SoCal (over 98% capacity last week), the new CARB rules on diesel trucks in CA and the lack of fully automated cranes in the ports (less than 10%) have also contributed to the log jam.
Getting back to the spill, this website gives some good updates on the clean up and oil in the area. https://socalspillresponse.com/ We had a decent rain storm last night and the sea conditions this afternoon through Tuesday look pretty rough. There is a small craft advisory with 4 to 6' West swells at 6 seconds and 25 knot winds out of the West. The concern is that the oil slick is going to come ashore on the Orange and San Diego County beaches. Here is the NOAA estimate on the location of the slick as of 10-6. And another map of the location of the slick over time. The red/pink dots are where the oil platforms are and the red/pink line is the pipeline that is going into the port.
Hard to keep track of when things get added to the vortex toilet swirl we have going in here on the left coast. I am pretty sure this Assembly bill AB5 went into affect Jan 1 2020 so she is sort of right, the affects have been felt throughout the Pandemic. It made all workers that used to be 1099 contractors, hourly employees subject to all the labor laws. It screwed those who were quite happy to have their own little side gig going and pay thier own taxes. Big brother treated them all like lying thieves that would under report earnings. Left many out of the labor market since many companies were not set up to deal with having multiple W2 employees and pay all of the overhead associated. Now Biden wants to double down on that concept by making banks report account activity in excess of $600! When will this end?
Sorry to hyjack the thread but its all connected.
Funny, now the Coast Gaurd is saying that the damage looks like it occureed months if not years ago due to marine growth on the strike area. Great job the industry is doing securing their equipment!
There were about a dozen cargo ships anchored near the Chesapeake bay bridge when I went thru there last week. It’s not the hundreds of ships like out west but unusual none the less.
The slowdown at the ports is really an unacceptable screw job for our economy.
So the captain sailed to Chicago with his anchor deployed and upon arrival tried to retrieve the anchor and discovered it missing? Doesn't sound quite right. I do remember the event in question but never heard this version.