2001 sundancer 41',diesels or gas?

Discussion in 'Newbie Lounge - NEW' started by spurdog, Mar 29, 2011.

  1. rondds

    rondds Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Oct 3, 2006
    Jersey Shore
    2001 380DA
    Merc 8.1s (2008)...Hurth ZF 63 V-drives...WB 7.0 BCGD (2013), Garmin 8208 & 740 MFDs, GMR 24xHD dome
    Who's Gary?
     
  2. ImpulseIII

    ImpulseIII Active Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    Jersey Shore/Venice FL
    2001 410 Sundancer
    Caterpillar 3126TA
    I think Gary and Autovette took the trawler to Belize for the winter.
     
  3. rondds

    rondds Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Oct 3, 2006
    Jersey Shore
    2001 380DA
    Merc 8.1s (2008)...Hurth ZF 63 V-drives...WB 7.0 BCGD (2013), Garmin 8208 & 740 MFDs, GMR 24xHD dome
    Who's Belize?
     
  4. autovette

    autovette New Member

    210
    Dec 4, 2009
    USA
    62 Trawler
    Man's
    A hooker from South America.
     
  5. spurdog

    spurdog New Member

    88
    Mar 28, 2011
    Ct River
    2001 410 Sundancer
    3126 cats
    wester genny
    3126 Cats
    :smt038as a newby im alittle intimadated by you all. Any how looks like the 41 with diesels may be the first:smt024
     
  6. autovette

    autovette New Member

    210
    Dec 4, 2009
    USA
    62 Trawler
    Man's
    First Boat ??? Ballsy!!!!..... but a great choice.
     
  7. rondds

    rondds Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Oct 3, 2006
    Jersey Shore
    2001 380DA
    Merc 8.1s (2008)...Hurth ZF 63 V-drives...WB 7.0 BCGD (2013), Garmin 8208 & 740 MFDs, GMR 24xHD dome
    spurdog
    Jump right in - the water's fine. Just keep a sense of humor!
     
  8. Turtlesboat

    Turtlesboat Minister of Media TECHNICAL Contributor GOLD Sponsor

    Feb 4, 2007
    New York City
    1996 450DA, TNT, Caribe dink w/15hp OB.
    3126 427HP TD transmissions
    don't listen to Ron, the water is cold as hell right now.
     
  9. Alegria

    Alegria Well-Known Member

    Feb 21, 2009
    Lancaster,PA Boat: -Sue Creek, MD
    2000 410 DA
    3126 CAT
    Welcome aboard! I say go with the diesels. Keep us posted on your progress. Always interested in new purchases. Take care.
     
  10. spurdog

    spurdog New Member

    88
    Mar 28, 2011
    Ct River
    2001 410 Sundancer
    3126 cats
    wester genny
    3126 Cats
    Well found the boat 2001 410 sundancer with twin cat 3126. Going to do survay on friday hope all pans out good.
     
  11. HUMPH

    HUMPH Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Nov 4, 2009
    SF BAY AREA
    2003 410DA,
    2004 C14 Caribe
    CAT 3126TA's 350HP/
    50HP Honda
    Where did you find it? If you have any questions go ahead and PM me. I have beein damn near every orifice in my boat already and have updated the maintenance on most of her.
     
  12. osd9

    osd9 New Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    MidAtlantic
    2003 410DA
    Caterpillar 3126-TA w/ ZF 80-IV
    Congrats....the 410DA is a great boat with great handling characteristics. It cruises well and offers plenty of room for an average family. Two heads, two AC systems and real doors between the two staterooms. The CATs should give you a comfortable cruise of 21-23 knots while returning a very economical 'average' fuel burn of just over 1 sMPG.

    You should have both a hull and mechanical survey before you purchase. Try and get as many of the service records, including oil samples, from the P.O. It's best to sea trial with a full load of fuel, water and stuff. That's not always possible, but do your best to get there. Very important is that both motors can reach a minimum of 2800 RPMs at WOT for a few minutes witout running HOT. Hot being over ~195 deg F. Don't rely on the dash mounted tachs unless they are digital. Confirm that the surveyor is using a laser tach.

    Plenty of folks here that can help and offer advise. Post back with any questions and good luck.

    Don't forget the pics....

    Oh.. I guess that means that I'm fired as Frank H's broker....
     
  13. OldSkool

    OldSkool Active Member

    May 8, 2010
    Boating on Raystown Lake, Pa
    restored 1976 SRV200
    188 Mercruiser I/O
    Diesel!! Fuel economy, maintenance, and reliability just to name a few.
     
  14. ImpulseIII

    ImpulseIII Active Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    Jersey Shore/Venice FL
    2001 410 Sundancer
    Caterpillar 3126TA
    YES YOU ARE !!!!!!!

    Anyone else out there want the job ?
     
  15. mistercomputerman

    mistercomputerman Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Jan 6, 2008
    Virginia Beach, VA
    410 Sundancer - 2001
    Twin 8.1L Mercruisers - 2009
    You guys are so full of crap. And yes, I did somehow miss this post.

    spurdog
    Good luck on your diesel 410. The boat is a great boat no matter what engines you have in there. As long as you never have to repair the innards of one of those 3126 CATs, you will have made the correct choice. Should you have to perform a repair, you are going to need to sell your car, take out a second mortgage on your house and maybe put your wife on the street to come up with the $$$ to rebuild one of those puppies.

    The references to my gas burners by the aformentioned Northern crowd, refers to the fact that I purchased some Mercruiser factory long blocks that were defective. Mercruiser made good on the deal after paying the local dealer to swap out a half dozen or so defective ones. I now have 2009 8.1L gassers. The boat gets about .7 mpg whereas the diesel is probably 1.1 mpg or so. I could get that number up if I took a bunch of tools and spares off, but, if I was that concerned about the mileage I wouldn't have bought the boat to begin with. Based on the $11k I spent of fuel last year, I would have saved about $4k on fuel last year with diesels. Since the cost of a rebuild on a SINGLE 3126 motor is about $30k (at least that was what was given me by the local CAT dealer) I still have 15 years to go before I am even. I can afford to pay for the gas and buy another set of these motors before I am upside down on the deal.

    So, not matter what the naysayers have to say, this deal works for me. I am happy with it and I'll burn up whatever gas it takes to get to Atlantic City in July, pay the bill and jawbone on the dock with those other 410DA owners whose opinions may differ from mine.

    And go buy Frank's boat if he is trying to sell it. He takes really good care of it because he is retired and doesn't have anything else to do.
     
  16. ImpulseIII

    ImpulseIII Active Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    Jersey Shore/Venice FL
    2001 410 Sundancer
    Caterpillar 3126TA
    I have stuff to do..........
     
  17. mistercomputerman

    mistercomputerman Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Jan 6, 2008
    Virginia Beach, VA
    410 Sundancer - 2001
    Twin 8.1L Mercruisers - 2009
    Shhh...
    We are trying to sell your boat.
     
  18. osd9

    osd9 New Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    MidAtlantic
    2003 410DA
    Caterpillar 3126-TA w/ ZF 80-IV
    How's your itty-bitty genie doing?
     
  19. mistercomputerman

    mistercomputerman Active Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Jan 6, 2008
    Virginia Beach, VA
    410 Sundancer - 2001
    Twin 8.1L Mercruisers - 2009
    Itty-bitty?

    My thing is as big as yours. It just uses a different fuel.
     
  20. ImpulseIII

    ImpulseIII Active Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    Jersey Shore/Venice FL
    2001 410 Sundancer
    Caterpillar 3126TA
    You are my new broker...Congratulations !
     

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