2001 sundancer 41',diesels or gas?

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  1. spurdog

    spurdog New Member

    88
    Mar 28, 2011
    Ct River
    2001 410 Sundancer
    3126 cats
    wester genny
    3126 Cats
    looking to buy but getting unsure answers with this. The gasser is 8.1 mercs and the diesel is 3126 cats.:huh:
     
  2. osd9

    osd9 New Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    MidAtlantic
    2003 410DA
    Caterpillar 3126-TA w/ ZF 80-IV
    Spurdog.

    We have two knowledgable folks here who each have a 410DA....one with diesel and one with gas motors: Impulse III and Computerman.

    There are plenty of other of us 410DA owners here also. You will find that most have diesel. I mentioned Impulse III because his 2001 410DA is for sale and in NJ...not too far from CT.

    I went from a gas 380DA to a diesel 410DA. Both boats are very similar in size and weight and handling characteristics. However, the torque that the diesels bring to the table is just something you don't realize you need till you have it. Not to mention the economy of the diesels. Comparing a 380DA with 8.1s to a 410DA with CATs, they cruise about the same speed (21-23 knots) but the diesel 410DA burns on average 35-40% less fuel (.8 vs 1.1...these are my average fuel burn numbers from my records....not instaneous fuel burn numbers). Put a pair of gas motors in a 410DA and expect the cruise speed to decrease a bit and the fuel usage to increase a bit.

    If you have any specific 410DA questions.....ask away....we'll be more than happy to answer your questions.
     
    Last edited: Mar 29, 2011
  3. ImpulseIII

    ImpulseIII Active Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    Jersey Shore/Venice FL
    2001 410 Sundancer
    Caterpillar 3126TA
    I should hire you as my broker......
     
  4. osd9

    osd9 New Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    MidAtlantic
    2003 410DA
    Caterpillar 3126-TA w/ ZF 80-IV
    You just did.....I'll send the bill out tomorrow.... :)
     
  5. ImpulseIII

    ImpulseIII Active Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    Jersey Shore/Venice FL
    2001 410 Sundancer
    Caterpillar 3126TA
    You need to do a bit more Marketing......You know, new bottom, props, all that stuff!!!! In the car world it would be called a "cream puff"
     
  6. osd9

    osd9 New Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    MidAtlantic
    2003 410DA
    Caterpillar 3126-TA w/ ZF 80-IV
    Don't forget the new rugs.....
     
  7. douglee25

    douglee25 Active Member

    Jan 13, 2008
    NJ
    Boatless
    Big ones!
    Does the sale come with that spiffy CAT flag too?

    Where is that picture anyway?

    Doug
     
  8. HUMPH

    HUMPH Well-Known Member PLATINUM Sponsor

    Nov 4, 2009
    SF BAY AREA
    2003 410DA,
    2004 C14 Caribe
    CAT 3126TA's 350HP/
    50HP Honda
    Walk past the gassers and get in the diesel! Too much boat for gas engines for anything other than putting around a lake...
     
  9. Dani-Lu

    Dani-Lu Member

    415
    Apr 20, 2007
    Long Island - Great South Bay
    2001 410DA
    3126 Cats
    Spurdog,

    I purchased a 2001 410da with diesels 3 years ago. I would not buy this boat with gasers, even at a phenominal price. Just not the right engines for this heavy boat. By today's measurements, this is a 44' boat. For the record, had i not found a great long island boat, i would have purchased impulse iii. It is a ridiculously clean boat! Good luck in your search. You came to the right place for guidance on this purchase.
     
  10. rondds

    rondds Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Oct 3, 2006
    Jersey Shore
    2001 380DA
    Merc 8.1s (2008)...Hurth ZF 63 V-drives...WB 7.0 BCGD (2013), Garmin 8208 & 740 MFDs, GMR 24xHD dome
    If you opt for a gasser, just do what Mistercomputerman does. As soon as there's a problem, replace the engines with a nice shiney new pair. On his third set now, right?
     
  11. carterchapman

    carterchapman Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor SILVER Sponsor

    Mar 25, 2008
    Lake Chickamauga/Marietta, GA/Ft. Myers, FL
    2006 Sea Ray 58 DB
    MAN CRM V8-900s, Twin Disc Drives; Onan 21.5 Generator
    Tough crowd Dr. Ron!
     
  12. osd9

    osd9 New Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    MidAtlantic
    2003 410DA
    Caterpillar 3126-TA w/ ZF 80-IV
    Yup....but it's rather amusing to watch one 'ass-heavy gasser' dissing another 'ass-heavy gasser'.

    Carter: Captn' Rick must not have seen this thread ....maybe you should ping him over at the other....oops.....never mind.... :)
     
  13. ImpulseIII

    ImpulseIII Active Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    Jersey Shore/Venice FL
    2001 410 Sundancer
    Caterpillar 3126TA
    Rick is busy shopping for more engines as backup's!!!

    Dom....you are fired........Jeff, you are hired !!!!!
     
  14. rondds

    rondds Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Oct 3, 2006
    Jersey Shore
    2001 380DA
    Merc 8.1s (2008)...Hurth ZF 63 V-drives...WB 7.0 BCGD (2013), Garmin 8208 & 740 MFDs, GMR 24xHD dome
    No denial here. Just speaking from experience and trying to save someone else the aggravation!
     
  15. carterchapman

    carterchapman Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor SILVER Sponsor

    Mar 25, 2008
    Lake Chickamauga/Marietta, GA/Ft. Myers, FL
    2006 Sea Ray 58 DB
    MAN CRM V8-900s, Twin Disc Drives; Onan 21.5 Generator
    Where is Autovette when we need him?
     
  16. carterchapman

    carterchapman Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor SILVER Sponsor

    Mar 25, 2008
    Lake Chickamauga/Marietta, GA/Ft. Myers, FL
    2006 Sea Ray 58 DB
    MAN CRM V8-900s, Twin Disc Drives; Onan 21.5 Generator
    Yea, but Rick keeps up with Gary. It is amazing what all those new engines can do...
     
  17. rondds

    rondds Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Oct 3, 2006
    Jersey Shore
    2001 380DA
    Merc 8.1s (2008)...Hurth ZF 63 V-drives...WB 7.0 BCGD (2013), Garmin 8208 & 740 MFDs, GMR 24xHD dome
    That's precisely why they burn out so fast!
    And pls don't summon Autovette. He's just a cranky old curmudgeon who likes to drive a trawler at 8 knots for 2700 straight miles. He has no concept of anything regarding 410DAs and their powerplants.
     
  18. osd9

    osd9 New Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    MidAtlantic
    2003 410DA
    Caterpillar 3126-TA w/ ZF 80-IV
    I hope we didn't scare the new guy away.....

    Spurdog....you still with us?????
     
  19. rondds

    rondds Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Oct 3, 2006
    Jersey Shore
    2001 380DA
    Merc 8.1s (2008)...Hurth ZF 63 V-drives...WB 7.0 BCGD (2013), Garmin 8208 & 740 MFDs, GMR 24xHD dome
    Probably has a life, unlike us. No one was rude to him/her, which is a pleasant change!
     
  20. osd9

    osd9 New Member

    Oct 3, 2006
    MidAtlantic
    2003 410DA
    Caterpillar 3126-TA w/ ZF 80-IV
    btw....where is Gary?..... :)
     

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