1st Overnight Trip

Discussion in 'Sea Ray Lifestyle & Cruising' started by richard3rd, Oct 9, 2016.

  1. richard3rd

    richard3rd New Member

    19
    May 31, 2009
    louisiana
    1987 268 sundancer
    454 mercruiser
    Hey y'all, so I've gotten everything done on the boat; all the creature comforts are in place:
    6gal. Water Heater
    2500 BTU A/C & Heat Unit
    Electric/Alcohol Stove
    Tv/DVD Player
    New Marine Head/Toilet
    Updated 12v Pressurized Water System w/Shower
    110/12v Refrigerator
    900 Watt Microwave
    New 110 Lightning
    Electric Tea Kettle
    All of the 110 items will be powered by my Honda eu2000 generator. (Before someone chimes in; the generator will placed on top of the hardtop, which is roughly 5-6' above everything else on the boat. It's mounted on top and secured with ratchet straps. The exhaust is more than high enough to avoid any gas/emissions going into the cabin) Obviously I won't be able to power all these items at once, but as needed. We've done a few dry run overnights in the driveway with the generator and everything worked fine, just have to remember that we can't run everything at once. So my question to all you experienced "overnighters" is what should we expect? Are there any items that we forsure need to bring? What items do we need not bring? Our 1st trip planned is to Cat Island off the coast of South Miss. it's roughly a 30/45 minute ride from the boat launch, so not to far of a run in case of an emergency. Just wanted to get some experienced input on what to expect. Thanks in advance!
     
  2. northern

    northern Active Member

    Jan 17, 2007
    West coast Vancouver to Alaska
    380 Aft Cabin 1989 GPS and Charts by Nobeltec
    Twin 454 strait shaft
    If the purpose of the generator is to make hot water for showers etc you will probably run out quickly. We had a 28 footer with a 35 gallon water tank. If we only used the water for dishes and face and had washing for 3 we ran out after 3 days. The boat we have now holds 100 gallons and if we shower for 2 we run out is 4 days.
    If you must use a generator put it so the wind blows the fumes away. IE place it on the swim platform and only use it when the wind blows. If you smell any exhaust you will probably die.
    I would not use the generator. If you want a tank of hot water run the main engine and it will warm the water in the take. A 2000 watt inverter will power the microwave and any other appliance. If you have insufficient batteries or they get low the main engine can charge them quickly. We do not want to read about a family dying on a boat leave the generator home or only use it when you can put it on a dock down wind of you.
     
  3. Creekwood

    Creekwood Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 26, 2009
    Oakville and Georgian Bay, Ontario
    '97 330 Sundancer
    2X 454 w/ vDrives
    You need to get two battery powered CO detectors and put one in the cockpit and one in the cabin. If they go off, you have a life threatening setup. You probably will be surprised that they will go off. Do NOT run the generateor when anyone is napping or sleeping either.

    Full disclosure, I have a Honda 2000. I do take it with me when I am going out for 3 nights or more. But I don't use it. Its there for emergency if the batteries for some reason get run down too low to start the engine. Up here we don't need A/C on the hook, and everything else runs off the inverter and golf cart battery bank. I cook with a BBQ and a butane burner and plan meals that way. I don't worry about running the water heater. We don't shower on the boat (that is what the lake is for) and the hot water can be heated up with the engine as Northern said.
     
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2016
  4. BlueYonder

    BlueYonder Member

    104
    Jan 12, 2015
    Chesapeake Bay
    37
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    Carbon monoxide is heavier than air. Putting a generator on the cabin top could be hazardous to your health. Carbon monoxide detectors are essential safety equipment.
     
  5. Boater420

    Boater420 Active Member

    822
    Mar 11, 2015
    Clearwater, FL
    '97 330 Sundancer
    V-Drives
    Westerbeke 4.5BCG
    Twin Merc 454's
    +100 Carbon Monoxide Detectors.
     
  6. northern

    northern Active Member

    Jan 17, 2007
    West coast Vancouver to Alaska
    380 Aft Cabin 1989 GPS and Charts by Nobeltec
    Twin 454 strait shaft
    We carry a 1000 watt Honda just in case all the batteries go dead. I tried it out once on the front deck while anchored. You could smell the exhaust in the cabin. I put it on the swim platform in a wind you could not smell it.
     
  7. aerobat77

    aerobat77 Member

    314
    Aug 12, 2014
    germany
    2006 240 DA Sundancer
    5.0 MPI / Bravo III
    for overnights of course fill the fridge , have warm clothing and ( at least now in germany ) in any case have some heaters on board.

    i have also a portable 1200 watt genny - it powers the battery chargers , lightning and one small electric radiator heater simultany or only the microwave. it struggles to power the water heater... the most downside is the fact you have to refill gas every 4 hours when it runs full power.
     
  8. Thornton69

    Thornton69 Member

    212
    Sep 15, 2014
    Northern BC
    1980 24.5' SR custom hardtop
    1984 18' Valco sled
    1984 20' Alicraft- sold
    5.7 260 Merc/ Bravo 2
    Evanrude 115/80 jet
    We don't bring a gen set anymore. Switch off the start battery while on the hook and keep are elect consumption within reason. Fridge and plotter are the only things running while we are sleeping. Use the anchor drift and shallow water alarms on the plotter for piece of mind. Have never had the house batteries low enough that it would not allow a quick start in the morning.
     
  9. JVM225

    JVM225 Well-Known Member

    Apr 8, 2008
    Farmingdale, NY
    2002 410 Sundancer, Monaco Edition.
    3126 Cats.
    You can conserve water on the hook by taking what we used to call a "Navy Shower". Quickly wet down, turn off water, apply soap and shampoo, scrub down, then quickly rinse off.
    Use similar techniques for shaving and brushing teeth.
    I had a handheld shower on my 300 Sundancer, and only used the water from the 40 gallon tank, even when at the dock. I did this to keep turning over the water in the tank so it always stayed clean, fresh, and odor free.
    I can probably count on one hand the number of times I used the dockside water hook up.
    The handheld shower was a natural for the method I outlined above.
    Anyway, we would easily get a weekend of showers out of a tank of water.
     
  10. mvoellinger

    mvoellinger Member

    618
    Aug 26, 2008
    Jacksonville, FL
    2002 260DA
    350 MAG w/ Bravo III
    +50 on the conserve water. 4 of us have stayed on a 360 Sundancer for 5 days still had a quarter tank of water. We took QUICK showers or washed in the water (a spring that was crystal clear) and didn't use the head for a piss...
     
  11. magstang1

    magstang1 Active Member

    May 30, 2010
    Lake St.Clair
    1998 31 Sedan Bridge
    Twin 350 Marine Power
    Take a couple extra pillows and blankets. Sleeping on the boat may not be as comfy as at home. It may make the difference in getting a good nights sleep. Take something simple for breakfast too. Ready made breakfast muffins... waking up to a decent breakfast without a lot of effort is very relaxing while the morning is still calm.
     
  12. wrvond

    wrvond Member SILVER Sponsor

    194
    Aug 27, 2016
    West Virginia
    1995 Sundancer 270
    7.4 liter Mercruiser w/Bravo II
    Ace Hardware has six gallon plastic water jugs for less than $10.00 each. I carry two full ones for back up.
     
  13. h_gerry

    h_gerry Active Member GOLD Sponsor

    Jun 19, 2013
    Oceanside, NY
    400 Express Cruiser - 1994 with
    Raytheon 41xx Radar, Northstar 6000i GPS
    Kohler 5E
    454 Mercruiser Inboards
    I too would caution against using the portable generator. You definitely need CO detectors on board.

    I supplement my water supply by having several one gallon water bottles that I use for cooking and drinking water for us and our dog rather than using the on board water supply for those items. The 100 gallon tank we have lasts for several days that way with 3 people showering and rinsing off after swimming (salt water bays).
     
  14. JVM225

    JVM225 Well-Known Member

    Apr 8, 2008
    Farmingdale, NY
    2002 410 Sundancer, Monaco Edition.
    3126 Cats.
    Forgot to add that we always used bottled water for cooking and drinking. Never used the water in the fresh water tank for that stuff.
     
  15. northern

    northern Active Member

    Jan 17, 2007
    West coast Vancouver to Alaska
    380 Aft Cabin 1989 GPS and Charts by Nobeltec
    Twin 454 strait shaft
    If you are after a list of items to bring and use we found the following. Meat with no bones. Vegetables that will keep without being cool. Orange juice in boxes. Canned vegetable and fruit. Bread that is firm not soft IE rye. Jam and peanut butter. Do not forget a couple of good flashlights. Small boats are just like camping but you do not need to carry the stuff every day from the boat to the shore.
     
  16. JimFromMD

    JimFromMD Active Member SILVER Sponsor

    Aug 9, 2010
    Annapolis, MD - Middle Chesapeake Bay
    2005 300DA, Garmin 740s w/Vision Charts and GMR18HD RADAR
    5.0MPI w/BIIs, Kohler 5E Generator.

    You can also conserve by bringing a small tub to wash all your dishes at the same time in the same soapy water, that way you only rinse with fresh.
     

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