1998 SR 290 Sundancer - Little Ducky II

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  1. bobeast

    bobeast Dance the Tide SILVER Sponsor

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    Oct 22, 2017
    Isleton, CA
    2002 310DA
    350 MPI w/V-drives
    Following your thread with interest. These are the kind of details that will benefit any model. One thing to note, however. Its generally not recommended to use solder connections on a boat. Solder connections are brittle and generally don't hold up well to the vibrations.
     
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  2. Little Ducky

    Little Ducky Active Member

    768
    Jun 5, 2017
    Chattanooga TN/Dickson TN
    1998 SeaRay 290 Sundancer
    Twin EFI 5.0L w/Alpha 1 drives
    Today was maintenance day.

    First time changing oil on a boat for me. I usually would get the marina to service my previous 260 DA but since I went into this older boat purchase as a DIY Fixer it was time to get a bit dirty.

    The 5.0's got some new life blood and filters as well as the generator and topped off my drive oil monitors.

    First off "Well that was fun" no one ever said when they had to change the oil and filter on the generator of a 290 DA.

    I used the TopSider oil extractor which worked out very well including the generator.

    The engine oil filters were a bit of a bear to remove..... seemed like Hercules must have tightened them at the last change or they just got tighter as time when on. The filter on the generator was a PITA to get to and change. Had to do it all by feel since you can't see it.

    I used a oil filter pliers on the larger engine filters and had to use a filter socket for the generator.

    TopSide extractor removed a good 5 qts of oil from each engine which supposedly only holds 5.5 qts. I removed the oil from the generator through the drain tube and then after removing the dipstick I sucked any remaining from the hole which was not much as all.

    I know it will be a bit easier next time but boat mechanics really do earn every dollar.

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    No one in their right mind engineered the generator for maintenance.

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    Had to use this on the generator to remove the filter.

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  3. Strecker25

    Strecker25 Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Nov 20, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    1998 290 Sundancer
    Twin 5.7EFI/Alphas, Kohler 4kw
    Generator is a nightmare. I took the heat exchanger off this year to get the old zinc out and flush the coolant. Lots of cuts on my hands after that one.
     
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  4. Little Ducky

    Little Ducky Active Member

    768
    Jun 5, 2017
    Chattanooga TN/Dickson TN
    1998 SeaRay 290 Sundancer
    Twin EFI 5.0L w/Alpha 1 drives
    Had another fun weekend. Kind of.

    2 weeks ago while I was changing oil I noticed one of my batteries were leaking. So this weekend I went ahead and changed out all 3. The batteries that were on the boat were Group 29 (13" long) and for some reason Group 29 must have been superseded so I went with Group 31 which is also 13" long. The old batteries were 4 1/2 years old so they were probably on borrowed time.

    I was originally going to replace with flooded lead acid but could not find what I wanted locally and batteries plus convinced me to replace all 3 with Deep Cycle AGM's.

    Installation was a PITA. Whoever decided to squish all 3 batteries together where you have to drop them in through a little access hole should have to walk the plank. I think I left behind a bit of DNA on every sharp object possible. Especially that dam hose clamp on top of the generator.

    Once installed I reprogramed the ProMariner to AGM and all went well....... I never saw so many green LED lights before. ;)

    One thing I do need to correct is my time estimates to do boat maintenance ...... what should have been an hour job was like 4. I guess I'm going to just x4 what ever pops into my head when I think about doing something.

    After cleaning up the battery area and wiping down the trays and everything else I could reach.......Don't they look pretty.

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    I modified some terminal covers for 4 connections and used tie wraps to secure but what kind of terminal covers can I get for the daisy chained battery?

    EDIT: I ordered some "flag terminal" covers for the battery connections that are unprotected in the picture above. These are designed just like the terminals themselves. I'll still have to cut them and use tie wraps to secure but this will be one more thing corrected from the pre-purchase survey.
     
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  5. Little Ducky

    Little Ducky Active Member

    768
    Jun 5, 2017
    Chattanooga TN/Dickson TN
    1998 SeaRay 290 Sundancer
    Twin EFI 5.0L w/Alpha 1 drives
    LD and I took the vessel out for a spin today. At 47 degrees and sunny we intended to just cruise at cocktail speed until the little rascal said duck it and throttle up.

    Burrrrr I think I froze my face off. ;)

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  6. Little Ducky

    Little Ducky Active Member

    768
    Jun 5, 2017
    Chattanooga TN/Dickson TN
    1998 SeaRay 290 Sundancer
    Twin EFI 5.0L w/Alpha 1 drives
    Just ordered up a little interior sound upgrade. Should be at the house today and hopefully installed in the boat over the weekend.

    Polk Audio DB 652
    DB+ Series 6-1/2" 2-way car speakers

    $60 at Crutchfield.com w/free shipping.


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  7. Strecker25

    Strecker25 Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Nov 20, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    1998 290 Sundancer
    Twin 5.7EFI/Alphas, Kohler 4kw
    Nice, for the cockpit? If your arch speakers are OEM be prepared to cut a little fiberglass back. My 6.5"s didn't quite fit when I replaced them
     
  8. Little Ducky

    Little Ducky Active Member

    768
    Jun 5, 2017
    Chattanooga TN/Dickson TN
    1998 SeaRay 290 Sundancer
    Twin EFI 5.0L w/Alpha 1 drives
    These are going in the cabin. The 20 year old paper OEM speakers are a bit tired. The radar arch speakers were already changed out by the previous owner to some Kenwood Marine speakers and they sound pretty good. I would like to add a little amp for the arch speakers for a little more punch but that will have to be in the future. When I'm afloat I don't need to be entertaining others so I don't need loud..... I just need clear.
     
  9. Strecker25

    Strecker25 Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Nov 20, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    1998 290 Sundancer
    Twin 5.7EFI/Alphas, Kohler 4kw
    That's interesting I'm almost positive my arch speakers are amped and the lower cockpit speakers are on the head unit. Maybe someone flipped the wires at some point.
     
  10. Little Ducky

    Little Ducky Active Member

    768
    Jun 5, 2017
    Chattanooga TN/Dickson TN
    1998 SeaRay 290 Sundancer
    Twin EFI 5.0L w/Alpha 1 drives
    If the amp is still in the boat where would it be?

    The boat had a newer marine Clarion head unit installed with a helm dashboard remote. Since the 6 disc player was removed I have access to the wires and nothing is currently hooked up to the Pre-Amp outputs. If the amp is still in the boat that would be a great upgrade for the arch speakers if it is still in working condition. Currently if I have all 6 speakers playing and at a higher volume they will cause the head unit to "clip" out and power down.
     
  11. Strecker25

    Strecker25 Well-Known Member SILVER Sponsor

    Nov 20, 2014
    Rochester, NY
    1998 290 Sundancer
    Twin 5.7EFI/Alphas, Kohler 4kw
    Behind the power panels. Take the two phillips head screws out at the top corners and they hinge down. Mine is down in that compartment
     
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  12. Little Ducky

    Little Ducky Active Member

    768
    Jun 5, 2017
    Chattanooga TN/Dickson TN
    1998 SeaRay 290 Sundancer
    Twin EFI 5.0L w/Alpha 1 drives
    I looked today....nothing there except a bunch of wires and a XM receiver. It could have been removed at some point in it's lifetime. Since the CD changer is gone and there's a little shelf I will mount the new one there when ever I get around to it.
     
  13. Little Ducky

    Little Ducky Active Member

    768
    Jun 5, 2017
    Chattanooga TN/Dickson TN
    1998 SeaRay 290 Sundancer
    Twin EFI 5.0L w/Alpha 1 drives
    New speakers installed.

    I had to do a minor modification with a pair of side cutters and remove the tabs to make the speakers fit ....... not pretty but it did the trick. Used the OEM speaker wiring since it looked very good. They sound much better then the 20 year old paper speakers. :)[​IMG]

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