1990 searay 310 sundancer switches

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  1. Paul bfield

    Paul bfield Member

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    Feb 28, 2020
    Goldcoast Queensland Australia
    1990 searay 310 sundancer
    6.7 Chevy long block
    Hi guys we have updated the helm and the last job are the 2 switch panel s.
    We are going to template the two panels wrap in a timber film and fit 3 sets of lighted switch banks. I was going to do away with all the individual fuses as they are old and obscene looking. I could if needed put them in a seperate bank behind the dash if necessary.
    Can anyone help with how to tackle this. It looks super complicated
    Also can anyone tell me the use of the following switches
    Acc
    Radio mute (doesn't mute the radio) or is it the vhf
    Emergency start.

    I'm sure I will get some awsome advice
    Tia
     
  2. Henry Boyd

    Henry Boyd Well-Known Member GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 24, 2007
    Newburyport, on the peaceful and serene Merrimack
    ‘09 Sabre 38 Hardtop Express “Serenity”
    Volvo D6 w/IPS450 Pods
    Pictures are a big help, especially if you are looking for non traditional solutions.

    On your mystery switches, keep in mind sea ray uses standard dash panels, so optional items that aren’t installed will still have unused switches. ACC is accessory switch that is installed for future use. Many dealers will use those for stuff they add. The switch is usually connected to power and fuse/circuit breaker and there is a wire to connect a future device stubbed off in the wire loom. Your other switches may be the same thing. Try and down load your owners manual from SR if you don’t have it. It should contain a wiring diagram for the whole boat that will show where these things go.
     
  3. Lazy Daze

    Lazy Daze Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 21, 2009
    PA
    Various
    Various
    FYI, this is not a "if necessary" thing - you must install fuses. Whether you reinstall them in the dash like they are now, or put a fuse block behind the dash... that part is up to you (aesthetics). If you do the fuse block (Blue Seas makes good ones) behind the dash, you're simply moving the wires from the fuses at the dash to the fuse block.

    On the other hand, if this feels like too daunting of a task, you might be better off enlisting the help of someone more experienced. The last thing you want to do is save $ by doing this yourself, only to screw something up and end up paying $$$ to fix it.
     
  4. Cocktail Time

    Cocktail Time Active Member SILVER Sponsor

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    Jul 9, 2007
    Lake Lanier, GA
    1998 400 Sundancer, Garmin 840xs GPS, Furuno RDP-110, B&G GPS pilot etc.
    Cat 3116's, Westerbeke 7.6kw
    Paul, I have completely rewired the dash on a '91 270 and it wasn't fun, not too bad but wasn't easy. The radio mute was a switch that from the factory muted the speaker wires from the head unit to the cockpit speakers. It has probably been bypassed. I bypassed mine when adding an amp. Sea ray in that era did not have any standard panels, the dash was model specific and if not needed there were black covers on the switch location. Engraving was still there. Fuses were still present and un-wired. I would highly suggest that you keep the same setup unless you really want to move to a lighted rocker switch and put in a remote fuse panel. Totally do-able though. Check out blue sea systems and carling rockers for ideas.
     
  5. Paul bfield

    Paul bfield Member

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    Feb 28, 2020
    Goldcoast Queensland Australia
    1990 searay 310 sundancer
    6.7 Chevy long block
    Thanks for the answers so far, here are the type of rockers we purchased this was due to lack of depth in the panel,. So I guess I need to keep the existing fuses, which I can probably mount into a small panel and mark them up behind the dash, is it then just a matter of taking the power lead off the old switch and attach it to the new switch as these are already powered in line
     

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  6. Lazy Daze

    Lazy Daze Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 21, 2009
    PA
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    Sunjoyco? Not that I've heard of everything in this industry, but I have never heard of that brand. Your call, of course, but I'd recommend looking to a better, well known brand. You want to do this once - not redo it again in a few years.

    It looks like you have breakers on your dash and toggle switches, correct? There might be an easier way to do things...

    Get some good toggles from Carling Tech. Eliminate the breakers and mount a fuse panel behind the dash. Re-use your existing panel and cover over it like you're planing on. Blue Seas makes nice labels you can use for the toggles. Or, you can have a new panel made that is pre-cut with the holes and already labelled. Or you use labelled, individual rocker switches on top of your "wrapped" panel.
     
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  7. Paul bfield

    Paul bfield Member

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    Feb 28, 2020
    Goldcoast Queensland Australia
    1990 searay 310 sundancer
    6.7 Chevy long block
    The switches I sent a link to are the style, we purchased from a local boat shop.
    I suppose I'm looking for someone that can tell me which wire I take from the toggle switch and put on the new switch
     

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  8. Lazy Daze

    Lazy Daze Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 21, 2009
    PA
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    You'll wire it the same way - a rocker switch is, electrically, the same as a toggle switch. +, - and probably a light feed wire. Most decent switches come with a wiring diagram, if you're unsure. Just take good notes (and pictures) as you disconnect the current ones. You may have to add grounds and the backlight, depending on exactly how your current ones are wired up.
     
  9. Paul bfield

    Paul bfield Member

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    Feb 28, 2020
    Goldcoast Queensland Australia
    1990 searay 310 sundancer
    6.7 Chevy long block
    First 2 done now the other 12
     

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  10. Paul bfield

    Paul bfield Member

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    Feb 28, 2020
    Goldcoast Queensland Australia
    1990 searay 310 sundancer
    6.7 Chevy long block
    Almost done just the dials now took a couple of hours
     

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  11. Lazy Daze

    Lazy Daze Well-Known Member TECHNICAL Contributor GOLD Sponsor

    Apr 21, 2009
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    Looks nice. What did you end up doing for fuses?
     
  12. Paul bfield

    Paul bfield Member

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    Feb 28, 2020
    Goldcoast Queensland Australia
    1990 searay 310 sundancer
    6.7 Chevy long block
    I left the fuses attached sitting underneath the dash, access underneath, I just wrote on each block what it was used fir
     
  13. Paul bfield

    Paul bfield Member

    30
    Feb 28, 2020
    Goldcoast Queensland Australia
    1990 searay 310 sundancer
    6.7 Chevy long block
    OK almost done but I have somehow messed up the bilge lights, there are a couple of blue wires laying around I think number 5 and 25.. But putting power to them is doing nothing. It's really tight behind the dash. Does anyone know which wires are for the bilge lighting (deck on my boat)
    Other than that really pleased with the look of the helm now. Much better than the horrible blue
     

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