1980 26ft Sea Ray

Matt89GT said:
pictures ?
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Sorry, I have not been there in a while. It is an hour away so I do not visit much. We are trying to clean it up a bit before we take any pictures........although before and after would be nice. And then there is SNOW in Dallas......what the heck is that all about. I will try to visit this coming weekend and see if I can get anything done and will bring my camera. :thumbsup:

I do believe this is a marine water heater from the reciepts we have but it looks old and will not know it works until the water pump is replaced.

I am wondering if a long and short holding tank will work I have been looking at some and there are a few that should work but they are from an RV not Marine. Any ideas?
 
If you're ever inspected by the Coast Guard, you'll get a hefty fine for having a sanitation system (head) installed that does not meet federal regulations in that it dumps directly overboard. You should rip it out entirely (just use a Porta-Potty) or add a holding tank in accordance with the regs. RV tanks are fine...assuming you mean poly/plastic.

From the regs:

Vessel Operators: No person may operate any Vessel having an installed toilet facility unless it is equipped with an installed and operable MSD of a type approved by the U.S. Coast Guard to meet the requirements of 33 CFR Part 159.

Approved MSDs: There are three different types of MSDs that can be certified by the U.S. Coast Guard to meet the requirements in 33 CFR Part 159, each having its own design, certification, and discharge criteria. For more information see 33 CFR 159.53.

Type I is a flow through discharge device that produces effluent having a fecal coliform bacteria count not greater than 1,000 per 100 milliliters and no visible floating solids. This type of device is typically a physical/chemical based system that relies on maceration and chlorination. Type I MSDs are issued a Certificate of Approval.
Type II is a flow through discharge device that produces effluent having a fecal coliform bacteria count not greater than 200 per 100 milliliters and suspended solids not greater than 150 milligrams per liter. This type of device is typically a biological or aerobic digestion based system.
Type III is a device that prevents the overboard discharge of treated or untreated sewage or any waste derived from sewage. This type of device is typically a holding tank and may include other types of technology including incineration, recirculation, and composting.
 
tobnpr said:
If you're ever inspected by the Coast Guard, you'll get a hefty fine for having a sanitation system (head) installed that does not meet federal regulations in that it dumps directly overboard. You should rip it out entirely (just use a Porta-Potty) or add a holding tank in accordance with the regs. RV tanks are fine...assuming you mean poly/plastic.

From the regs:

Vessel Operators: No person may operate any Vessel having an installed toilet facility unless it is equipped with an installed and operable MSD of a type approved by the U.S. Coast Guard to meet the requirements of 33 CFR Part 159.

Approved MSDs: There are three different types of MSDs that can be certified by the U.S. Coast Guard to meet the requirements in 33 CFR Part 159, each having its own design, certification, and discharge criteria. For more information see 33 CFR 159.53.

Type I is a flow through discharge device that produces effluent having a fecal coliform bacteria count not greater than 1,000 per 100 milliliters and no visible floating solids. This type of device is typically a physical/chemical based system that relies on maceration and chlorination. Type I MSDs are issued a Certificate of Approval.
Type II is a flow through discharge device that produces effluent having a fecal coliform bacteria count not greater than 200 per 100 milliliters and suspended solids not greater than 150 milligrams per liter. This type of device is typically a biological or aerobic digestion based system.
Type III is a device that prevents the overboard discharge of treated or untreated sewage or any waste derived from sewage. This type of device is typically a holding tank and may include other types of technology including incineration, recirculation, and composting.
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I cannot imagine this boat getting away with it for so long. This has opened my eyes and I have done some research on getting a holding tank and the RV tanks seemed to be the ones that would fit best. Here is what I plan;
I was thinking of putting the tank on the starboard side under the back deck and run the line to it with the drawing line to the waste port. I believe there is a vent line with a filter I was going to terminate it to where it currently drains off the starboard side.

Does anyone know how the deck comes off? I see a 90 degree trim that comes off but not sure if there are screws under the carpet.
Thanks for all your help
 
stevea661 said:
That place where the waste collects in the bottom of the head, thats your holding tank. There should be a 2 position wye valve under the bathroom sink. In one position it diverts to the pump out fitting on the starboard side of the boat, in the other it diverts to the maserator pump. Turn that pump on and it sucks the waste out of the bottom of the head, through the pump and then overboard. It's ok to pump overboard after three miles out in the ocean. It sounds like your pump is jammed. Try shooting water in through the through with a hose (back flush). For the fresh water pump just follow the water line back to tank and you'll find the pump, close to the tank. Good luck
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READ THIS. This is how your head is set up, or should be. While boating inshore the wye valve goes to the pump out and is pad locked, once you ar 3 miles out you can unlock it, put it to the macerator position, and pump overboard. My macerator pump switch is keyed like an ignition switch.
 
you probably dont have a holding tank other than the tank built into the toilet follow your waste line down and i bet it will go straight into the bottom of the toilet like mine. there is really no reason to worry about fixing the macerator since its Illegal to pump out into fresh water anyway. BTW I have the same setup as you have pictured.
 
helms1200 said:
you probably dont have a holding tank other than the tank built into the toilet follow your waste line down and i bet it will go straight into the bottom of the toilet like mine. there is really no reason to worry about fixing the macerator since its Illegal to pump out into fresh water anyway. BTW I have the same setup as you have pictured.
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So are you ever thinking about setting up a larger holding tank? do you just pump out of the head directly? I am trying to figure out how many 5 dollar weekends to pump out a couple of gallons as it would take to increase the holding size and if it is worth the headache. If I get a 20-30 gallon I could go a few other weekends.
 
The thought has never crossed my mind. I just use the tank drop ins and have it pumped out when it starts getting full. really wasnt that often. But I have a rule no #2 on the boat.
 
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Finally I have pics. It is amazing how small it gets with 4 people.

I have a question about the window gaskets. It appears the window is popping out and not sure how to get the gaskets to pop it back in. This of course is the least of my worries right now.
I finally found where the water pump is and could not get it working nor have I found a replacement. It is tough getting up there every weekend being an hour away. it is even harder to work on the boat with the family there. there is not much room to work so we end up cleaning and fishing. not bad. :smt001

That is my son pushing buttons and playing with the spot light. one of his favorite parts of the boat.
 
I can't tell for sure, but that windshield looks like a Water Bonnet. Call them. They can sell you all the molding and sealing pieces and will explain how to install. If it is not a Water Bonnet, then it will have to be a Taylor. I would expect them to be helpful, too.
 
There are water heaters made for installation in boat engine compartments that are spark proof. Get one of those and get rid of that old household unit ASAP. Ebay has a bunch for not much money. 6 gal would probablly do for you just fine. Get some MARINE stranded 110v wire to hook up that new heater.
The head looks like a port-potti that has been plumbed thru a macerator to a deck pump out fitting. The alternative is having to transport the bottom half of the toilet to a shore side hopper to dump every weekend, NOT alot of fun! Although it is alot less complicated to operate and maintian.
The water tank is probablly leaking at a hose fitting, usually the outlet that is at the lowest part of the tank. You my be able to tighten it or use some sealer on the outside to stop the leak. If either the water pump or the macerator are origional or more than ten years old, I'd just replace them with new ones and enjoy the boat. Old pumps go bad and will require periodic fiddling with to keep going. If they are hard to reach, this quickly becomes a PIA so for peace of mind, I'd replace them.
 
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