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Thanks didn'tdoit, actually the admiral is pretty seasoned, we don't need a head... I was looking at the 175 too, but I am thinking theres probably quite a difference jumping up that foot based on the popularity of the 185.

Thinking about a boat to tow places I haven't been to do some exploring. Been boating 40+ years, mostly fishing boats and some go fasts in my younger years. Initial idea was a Donzi which I always liked, but they don't have a nice big pad for momma to work on her tan, and I know at low speeds...