Do you have DSC / GPS / MMSI configured?

Do you have DSC / GPS / MMSI configured?

  • Sounds complicated, what are you talking about?

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I know what it is, but I don't have it or have it configured

    Votes: 4 9.1%

  • I have some parts, but not all

    Votes: 3 6.8%

  • My boat is fully configured for DSC with GPS and an MMSI

    Votes: 35 79.5%

  • That's old-school. I use full-blown AIS.

    Votes: 2 4.5%
  • Total voters
    44
  • Poll closed .
I've had my 'Canadian Radiotelephone Operator's Restricted Certificate' since 1990, but I have never had an MMSI number set up for my VHF radio. I know that it is connected to my Garmin 720S GPS Chartplotter.
 
M Prod said:
No, he is correct. A station license is different from a Radio Operator's Certificate (ROC-M) ..which you do need to legally operate a marine VHF radio in Canadian waters.

Scroll down to #3:

https://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/marinesafety/oep-navigation-radiocomms-faqs-1489.htm
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Section 3 is for a marine telephone or commercial vessels - the section I referenced exempts non commercial vessels with VHF radios purpose built for marine use only, transmitting on marine frequencies only. Specifically section 15.2 (2) of the act provides the exemption.

Questions and Answers
On March 17, 1999, Industry Canada published in the Canada Gazette an amendment to the Radiocommunication Regulations. This amendmentprovides for the exemption of "radio apparatus on board a ship or vessel" and "radio apparatus on board an aircraft" from the requirement to hold a radio licence.

https://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.nsf/eng/sf01746.html



That being said, if there is another section of the act that supersedes this please indicate which one it is
 
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Black Valkyrie said:
Section 3 is for a marine telephone or commercial vessels - the section I referenced exempts non commercial vessels with VHF radios purpose built for marine use only, transmitting on marine frequencies only. Specifically section 15.2 (2) of the act provides the exemption.

Questions and Answers
On March 17, 1999, Industry Canada published in the Canada Gazette an amendment to the Radiocommunication Regulations. This amendmentprovides for the exemption of "radio apparatus on board a ship or vessel" and "radio apparatus on board an aircraft" from the requirement to hold a radio licence.

https://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.nsf/eng/sf01746.html



That being said, if there is another section of the act that supersedes this please indicate which one it is
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It references both pleasure and commercial. I can tell you with 100% certainly you need a certification. Sorry, but you’re wrong.

Also this was covered in your PCOC test.

If you don’t believe me, call Transport Canada
 
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M Prod said:
It references both pleasure and commercial. I can tell you with 100% certainly you need a certification. Sorry, but you’re wrong.

Also this was covered in your PCOC test.

If you don’t believe me, call Transport Canada
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I'll dig deeper but the act seems pretty clear with regards to the exemption. I'm not doubting that a course would be helpful, however I read that exemption as being written quite clearly. As I mentioned, possibly there is something that supersedes that act, but I can't find anything that does.

The act clearly contradicts the other govt site that reads more like an ad to take the course, but doesn't actually reference any act stating you need to take the course.. but that's the government of Canada for you lol!

Though I am a huge proponent of training, I find it particularly offensive that the license to operate the boat can be done online for $30 in an afternoon, but you have to blow a whole day in a classroom and $180 to use the radio. This used to happen with CB radios... I had a license for one of those too back in the early 80's ... they dropped the requirement when FRS radios flooded the market. No doubt with Amazon selling inexpensive VHF to every kayaker and canoer that course will leave the classroom and head online... then disappear altogether.

And yes... for information purposes I will call the govt and find the exact "law" (if it actually exists) and post the info!
 
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Certification
Do I still require a Radio Operator Certificate?

Yes. The Radio Operator Certificate is still a requirement for anyone who may be operating the maritime radio equipment, regardless of whether a radio licence is required.

How do I obtain a certificate?

Candidates for the Radio Operator Certificate must successfully complete an examination. Courses and exams are given by the Canadian Power and Sail Squadrons. You can contact them via their web site: http://www.cps-ecp.ca/.

Date modified:
2015-06-17
 
Just as an update from the guy who thought he might be able to reuse an MMSI:

I handed-off my prior MMSI to the person that bought my boat today. I then re-registered a new MMSI for the VHF that came with the boat I recently purchased. Fortunately for me the prior owner of my current boat never entered an MMSI so the process for me was quite simple.

USPS.org makes it painless, free and best of all - free.
 
Here it is:

Please see the Radio Regulations, Section 33, within Part V.



Link: http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-96-484/index.html



33 A person may operate radio apparatus in the aeronautical service, maritime service or amateur radio service only where the person holds an appropriate radio operator certificate as set out in column I of any of items 1 and 3 to 15 of Schedule II.



And




34 (1) A person who holds a radio licence authorizing the operation of any radio apparatus in the aeronautical service or maritime service may permit another person to operate the radio apparatus only if the other person holds the appropriate radio operator certificate set out in column I of any of items 1 and 3 to 14 of Schedule II.



(2) A person who operates any radio apparatus that is exempt from licensing in accordance with section 15.1 in the case of the aeronautical service, or section 15.2 in the case of the maritime service, may permit another person to operate the radio apparatus only if the other person holds the appropriate radio operator certificate set out in column I of any of items 1 and 3 to 14 of Schedule II.
 
In a nutshell, you dont require a license for the radio, but you require a certificate for an operator.

It's an internet win / win
 
Woody said:
Certification
Do I still require a Radio Operator Certificate?

Yes. The Radio Operator Certificate is still a requirement for anyone who may be operating the maritime radio equipment, regardless of whether a radio licence is required.

How do I obtain a certificate?

Candidates for the Radio Operator Certificate must successfully complete an examination. Courses and exams are given by the Canadian Power and Sail Squadrons. You can contact them via their web site: http://www.cps-ecp.ca/.

Date modified:
2015-06-17
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I already saw that but it doesnt actually reference any laws, acts or regulations
 
Black Valkyrie said:
In a nutshell, you dont require a license for the radio, but you require a certificate for an operator.

It's an internet win / win
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Uh huh ..see post 60 and 65 but glad you figured that out on your own. :smh
 
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