New for me... Stay on the water with inboard?outboard

Ididntdoit said:
Canada is a lot different than south florida - so your experience is pointless to the OP
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Ya... that Pacific Ocean is super gentle. The luscious Caribbean should be avoided at all costs. In fact all oceans should be avoided.

Actually it's best never to use your boat if you choose to put it in the water... it's much better to keep it in your driveway.

I suggest as a group we issue an immediate cease and desist order to any and all Marinas. They are far too dangerous. Also we must ensure boats are never placed in the water, especially an ocean.
 
black valkyrie said:
ya... That pacific ocean is super gentle. The luscious caribbean should be avoided at all costs. In fact all oceans should be avoided.

Actually it's best never to use your boat if you choose to put it in the water... It's much better to keep it in your driveway.

I suggest as a group we issue an immediate cease and desist order to any and all marinas. They are far too dangerous. Also we must ensure boats are never placed in the water, especially an ocean.
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**** you *******
 
Actually - what am I saying ? Clearly no one ever keeps their boat in the water. Marinas don't even exist! This topic is fake news!

Holy Snowflakes Batman lol
 
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I don't think it's a good idea to keep I/O's in saltwater. I'll listen to any contrary opinion. I'll also accept $3,000-$4,000 to get my 280 operational again.

PayPal will work fine...
 
RollerCoastr said:
I don't think it's a good idea to keep I/O's in saltwater. I'll listen to any contrary opinion. I'll also accept $3,000-$4,000 to get my 280 operational again.

PayPal will work fine...
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Maybe you should sue your marina? Maybe they should have posted a warning for you? Or sue searay?
 
Black Valkyrie said:
Maybe you should sue your marina? Maybe they should have posted a warning for you? Or sue searay?
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Why are you such a dick? You seem to have some knowledge then you ruin it with rude comments that are not called for.
 
JimT said:
Why are you such a dick? You seem to have some knowledge then you ruin it with rude comments that are not called for.
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I'm not being a dick... I simply find it unbelievable with the topic at hand - boats - that people here are saying that they can't be left in the water. It's really quite stunning.

Makes for some super fun reading though!

I thought there were fewer sensitive Hillary voters making up this demographic.. maybe I was wrong lol
 
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Black Valkyrie said:
Maybe you should sue your marina? Maybe they should have posted a warning for you? Or sue searay?
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I recommend against keeping I/O's in saltwater. I do that because it results in a lot of maintenance that can be avoided with inboards. I've never been told otherwise by a marina, nor Mercury Marine for that matter. It seems like YOU are giving bad advice though. Can I sue you?
 
Would you like to compare what I've spent on running gear maintenance on inboards to your salty I/O's? It'll be easy: I'm at $0 after 20 years. Your turn!
 
JimT said:
Why are you such a dick? You seem to have some knowledge then you ruin it with rude comments that are not called for.
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Some people just can't help themselves...it's in their nature.
 
Maybe it would just be easier if I did a quick rundown on my low-hour, RACK STORED I/O saltie.

Anode kits, upper-shift cables, lower shift cables. Stbd stalls because the shift interrupt needs a tweak, because well, these gears can't be moved while the engine is producing even normal idle power, so the engine is intentionally forced to stumble. Great design, that one! What can go wrong in a 20 year old boat sucking in salty air with Merc "Engineering" all over the transom and ER?? What's that rumble? Ah, just the gimbal. That's a cheap part even by non-boating standards. Too bad installing it can cost a grand. Well it should really be a lot less, but there are so many other crappy little pieces that have been hanging in saltwater, you may as well replace those while you have the drive sitting in the parking lot. Let's see, trim senders? Yeah, let's do that. Damn, look at the corrosion on that trim cylinder hose! How does stainless DO that?? Ok, new hoses. At least the cylinders are new - replaced those a few years ago, and a few years before that. Oh, those damn impellers are buried in the drive instead of a crazy place like ON THE ENGINE, so let's get in there and do that and check that fluid. Does that fluid look milky to you? Ok, let's get these suckers back on and go boa... wait - bellows. Did we order bellows kit? A bad bellows can sink the damn boat! Who didn't order the kits?! Those little rubber boots started this whole mess! Ok, now we have bellows. Let's get this stuff together and go boa... Is that transom wet? Not sure. We should check that. It turns out, someone cut two huge holes in the transom of all these boats with I/O's and then told us to keep them in the water for decades. Who would do that????? Ok, the transom is ok. For now. All we have to do is put all this together, pay the invoices and go boa... Damn, I have to go to work to pay for it all.

Black Valkyrie said:
Makes for some super fun reading though!
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Is this reading fun for ya? It was fun to write it, but mostly because my other boat has inboards.
 
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RollerCoastr said:
Maybe it would just be easier if I did a quick rundown on my low-hour, RACK STORED I/O saltie.

Anode kits, upper-shift cables, lower shift cables. Stbd stalls because the shift interrupt needs a tweak, because well, these gears can't be moved while the engine is producing even normal idle power, so the engine is intentionally forced to stumble. Great design, that one! What can go wrong in a 20 year old boat sucking in salty air with Merc "Engineering" all over the transom and ER?? What's that rumble? Ah, just the gimbal. That's a cheap part even by non-boating standards. Too bad installing it can cost a grand. Well it should really be a lot less, but there are so many other crappy little pieces that have been hanging in saltwater, you may as well replace those while you have the drive sitting in the parking lot. Let's see, trim senders? Yeah, let's do that. Damn, look at the corrosion on that trim cylinder hose! How does stainless DO that?? Ok, new hoses. At least the cylinders are new - replaced those a few years ago, and a few years before that. Oh, those damn impellers are buried in the drive instead of a crazy place like ON THE ENGINE, so let's get in there and do that and check that fluid. Does that fluid look milky to you? Ok, let's get these suckers back on and go boa... wait - bellows. Did we order bellows kit? A bad bellows can sink the damn boat! Who didn't order the kits?! Those little rubber boots started this whole mess! Ok, now we have bellows. Let's get this stuff together and go boa... Is that transom wet? Not sure. We should check that. It turns out, someone cut two huge holes in the transom of all these boats with I/O's and then told us to keep them in the water for decades. Who would do that????? Ok, the transom is ok. For now. All we have to do is put all this together, pay the invoices and go boa... Damn, I have to go to work to pay for it all.



Is this reading fun for ya? It was fun to write it, but mostly because my other boat has inboards.
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Fabulous!!


Anyone considering a boat purchase should read posts/threads that have this much detail....or more. I have I/Os because it was extremely difficult to find inboards within budget at the size I wanted. Thankfully, I knew it was a pay now vs. pay later equation because of experienced boaters around me, and I'm happy with my boat. Not HAPPY with the cost or annoyance factor for major maintenance/repairs, of course, but it works for me for now, while I plan forward to have inboards on the next one.

It would have really sucked to not have a somewhat realistic idea of the potential time and money required to maintain I/Os vs. inboards.
 
I am in fresh water and if I was looking for a boat that is slipped (which is what I have always owned) and a boat was available with either I/O or inboards, I would take the inboards without hesitation. The maintenance is simply vastly less with inboards. That is based on my experience over about 25 years in fresh water. I could support it with cost summaries, but I won't take the time (and don't really want to remind myself). My I/O boats were single engines. If I had to multiply by two the difference would be even more clear.
 
my 240 stays in fresh water permanently march - november and also 3-4 weeks in saltwater every year and i never had an issue with the bravo drive . you of course need a good antifouling and good anodes . staying all season in salt water year after year might indeed get heavy on repairs due to corrosion .permanently in fresh water and salt for a holiday sees to be a non event

best regards
 
RollerCoastr said:
Maybe it would just be easier if I did a quick rundown on my low-hour, RACK STORED I/O saltie.

Anode kits, upper-shift cables, lower shift cables. Stbd stalls because the shift interrupt needs a tweak, because well, these gears can't be moved while the engine is producing even normal idle power, so the engine is intentionally forced to stumble. Great design, that one! What can go wrong in a 20 year old boat sucking in salty air with Merc "Engineering" all over the transom and ER?? What's that rumble? Ah, just the gimbal. That's a cheap part even by non-boating standards. Too bad installing it can cost a grand. Well it should really be a lot less, but there are so many other crappy little pieces that have been hanging in saltwater, you may as well replace those while you have the drive sitting in the parking lot. Let's see, trim senders? Yeah, let's do that. Damn, look at the corrosion on that trim cylinder hose! How does stainless DO that?? Ok, new hoses. At least the cylinders are new - replaced those a few years ago, and a few years before that. Oh, those damn impellers are buried in the drive instead of a crazy place like ON THE ENGINE, so let's get in there and do that and check that fluid. Does that fluid look milky to you? Ok, let's get these suckers back on and go boa... wait - bellows. Did we order bellows kit? A bad bellows can sink the damn boat! Who didn't order the kits?! Those little rubber boots started this whole mess! Ok, now we have bellows. Let's get this stuff together and go boa... Is that transom wet? Not sure. We should check that. It turns out, someone cut two huge holes in the transom of all these boats with I/O's and then told us to keep them in the water for decades. Who would do that????? Ok, the transom is ok. For now. All we have to do is put all this together, pay the invoices and go boa... Damn, I have to go to work to pay for it all.


This is about the thing going through my head as well. I have an inboard now and don't see an I/O in my future any time soon.
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kevin , cool posting ;-) . but seriously , when you think only of the worst what could happen to a boat its an idea to stop boating , regardless what type of boat . leaky shaft seals could sink your inboard , osmosis could eat up your old hull and much more !
 
I didn't list worst-case or odd scenarios! Those are all very common problems and/or regular maintenance items. Finding holes in braided stainless hydraulic lines was strange to me, but only because she was racked-stored.
 
Look at all these nutjobs! The internet police better get after them asap!!!

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RollerCoastr said:
Maybe it would just be easier if I did a quick rundown on my low-hour, RACK STORED I/O saltie.

Anode kits, upper-shift cables, lower shift cables. Stbd stalls because the shift interrupt needs a tweak, because well, these gears can't be moved while the engine is producing even normal idle power, so the engine is intentionally forced to stumble. Great design, that one! What can go wrong in a 20 year old boat sucking in salty air with Merc "Engineering" all over the transom and ER?? What's that rumble? Ah, just the gimbal. That's a cheap part even by non-boating standards. Too bad installing it can cost a grand. Well it should really be a lot less, but there are so many other crappy little pieces that have been hanging in saltwater, you may as well replace those while you have the drive sitting in the parking lot. Let's see, trim senders? Yeah, let's do that. Damn, look at the corrosion on that trim cylinder hose! How does stainless DO that?? Ok, new hoses. At least the cylinders are new - replaced those a few years ago, and a few years before that. Oh, those damn impellers are buried in the drive instead of a crazy place like ON THE ENGINE, so let's get in there and do that and check that fluid. Does that fluid look milky to you? Ok, let's get these suckers back on and go boa... wait - bellows. Did we order bellows kit? A bad bellows can sink the damn boat! Who didn't order the kits?! Those little rubber boots started this whole mess! Ok, now we have bellows. Let's get this stuff together and go boa... Is that transom wet? Not sure. We should check that. It turns out, someone cut two huge holes in the transom of all these boats with I/O's and then told us to keep them in the water for decades. Who would do that????? Ok, the transom is ok. For now. All we have to do is put all this together, pay the invoices and go boa... Damn, I have to go to work to pay for it all..
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ahhh...thanks for the memories...
 
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