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Us too, Cap'n may have one beer but that's it until we dock for the night.
 
We lost a man in the Pensacola area this weekend. He was in a party of four leaving at 1:30 AM for a fishing trip. The "captain" said he pulled away from the dock and thirty minutes later checked on his passengers and the man was gone. The "captain" knew the man could not swim and had no life jacket on. IMHO that type of negligence has no place in boating. None!
 
Never ever, no exceptions, would I drink even 1, and take to the helm afterwards, on the same day. Oh, and I, and all crew/passengers don PFDs, dock to dock. There are enough variables I can't control, but alcohol and life vests are my call.
 
Damn, I get to work this morning and a guy asks me if I heard about the accident on Raystown Lake (Our usual lake of choice) on Thursday night?

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2014/07/state_police_identify_carlisle.html

From witnesses, the boat was at WOT around 10:30 pm when they cut the corner to sharp and ran aground on the rocks. The lady was in the cabin at the time and for whatever reason could not get out. The boat sank in 70ft of water. The investigation continues as the rescue squads were not called until 2:30 am on Friday morning by the boaters.

BTW. Allergic reaction to grain alcohol (hives and throat swelling shut) keeps me only on NA beer. Even after 2 at .03% I can feel the hives start. No cough syrup or anything else with alcohol either.
 
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I'm glad to see there are many others who don't drink and then drive their boat.

I'd hate to think that I had a few and someone got hurt as a result of my selfishness.

That being said, when the anchor's down I party with the rest of 'em.
 
I will have "A" beer on occasions while anchored, and/or fishing (during the day)...along with plenty of water and probably a sandwich.

Sober or drunk, if you're mashing down the throttle after dark, you're an flipping idiot. Drunk adds to the flipping.

2 years ago we took our boat out to watch fireworks on Lake Superior in the Town of Bell's marina. I had a full 8 aboard. There wasn't many boaters out and it was really easy to get back to the dock. However, managing 8 adults/kids, captaining, anchoring, avoiding and watching other boats (spacial awareness) docking, cleaning and covering the boat, ruined it for me.
We watch from shore now.
 
I'm glad to see there are many others who don't drink and then drive their boat.

I'd hate to think that I had a few and someone got hurt as a result of my selfishness.

That being said, when the anchor's down I party with the rest of 'em.

In previous boat/alcohol discussions some were of the opinion that even that is irresponsible Captain conduct:huh:
 
I live in South Florida, and NEVER take my boat out holiday weekends. I have never felt safe with so many boaters that don't know the navigation rules during the day, let alone at night. I wonder if the boats involved even had their navigation lights on... Will be weeks till they find out the whole story.. It was so sad and tragic and I feel so terrible for the families and friends of the 4 young (early 20's) people that lost their lives, and the others that are injured - some still very serious in the hospital. Such a senseless tragedy , but one that seems to repeat itself every few years.. I remember another terrible accident a few Columbus day's ago, same kind of thing, speeding at night racing back to the marinas... This next Saturday afternoon from 5pm -10pm I will be rafting up with a group of 8 other boats on a lake here in Fort Lauderdale, and luckily it's all either no wake or minimum speed areas both to and from the lake... .. It takes about an hour to get back home to dock going that slow, but it is a beautiful ride and should also be a full moon, It's also not out on the intracoastal or Biscayne Bay like where the accident happened; where there is a lot more boat traffic. And while we are toasting our friends recent wedding, I will have one or two sips of champagne (I'm not a drinker), and then stick to Diet Coke the rest of the night... I'm happy to let everyone else (passengers not captains) drink, but if I see any of the other captains enjoying themselves too much, I will make sure they either stay anchored overnight, or get some coffee in them before they head out! I also am trying to get rid of all my old uncomfortable life jackets and upgrade to the newer offshore mustangs ... A lot of money but everyone's life is worth it..
 
We were out on the 4th and saw a beautiful fireworks show. As previously posted, once the show is over, lights are on the boat to make others aware. We also wait for the yahoo's to leave first. Slow ride back to the marina is also the key. I have made the trip many times at plane, but at night, we crawl........and no booze for the captain!
 
I agree with all the non drinkers. There is just no place for it on the boat, while underway. If you are back at the dock. or set the hook for the night, have at it.

That being said, what I observed this past weekend, was pure foolishness, non-boatsmanship (is that a word?) and selfishness. My 330 is not fast in any way shape or form. I get up on plane slowly, I keep it at about 25-27 MPH and back down easily. I idle in ALL no wake zones. I try to be courteous to all who are anchored, moored or tied up together in coves, even if there is no “no wake zone” bouys out.

But I saw every one of my “rules” broken this weekend! I know not everyone is like me, but for crying outloud, cutting me off as I come into our cove before the no wake zone starts and pulling kids on a tube not 50 yards off my bow... I just don’t get it.

Fortuneatly, we enjoyed the fireworks from the dock. We all had good fun watching the knuckheads coming in wayyyyyy to fast, only to run into the Statie waiting for them! But sadly, they were doing everything I feared. It was long after Midnight until the 330 was sitting still in her berth.

I like many of you will continue to stay home for such nights. Its just not worth it. I rememeber when I was young and finally had the lightbulb go off in my head, “Stay home and enjoy the New Year”!!!, well, you get the idea.
 
We lost a man in the Pensacola area this weekend. He was in a party of four leaving at 1:30 AM for a fishing trip. The "captain" said he pulled away from the dock and thirty minutes later checked on his passengers and the man was gone. The "captain" knew the man could not swim and had no life jacket on. IMHO that type of negligence has no place in boating. None!

What we don't understand is that it was only a 16 ft center console boat and no one knew when he fell off. How could even the other two passengers lose sight of someone on a boat that small that's all open??

As far as going out for the fireworks and drinking on the boat -- we did go out on the bay for the fireworks and no alcohol for the captain. Although it's on the boat for dock time, he won't drink while boating any more than he would drink and drive.
We have the auto inflatable "fisherman" style life jackets which were worn by all, and I do have to say that for as many boats that were out on the water for the fireworks, I really didn't see the extreme craziness that other areas experienced. Some boats trawled faster than others, but no boats were on plane in the dark. Because we have to go back in through a narrow channel to reach our dock, we let everyone go on in ahead of us.
Now this coming weekend is the Blue Angel show at Pensacola beach. That's when we're more likely to see stupid on the water with the hundreds of boats that will be out there. We're going over tomorrow morning to watch some practice manuveours, but will pass on the Fri and Sat crowds.
 

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