Offer Accepted! 370DA

Hex

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Dec 18, 2012
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Hello Sea Ray affectionados!
First, a little background: Previous boat was a Bayliner 3055. I loved that boat. Affordable and no issues with 4 years of ownership. It was my first boat, and I learned a lot. I'd still have her, but a better job forced a move and I didn't want to bring her to saltwater.
Initially, I liked Sea Rays okay enough, but did not head that direction. I was thinking a Regal 3360, Cruisers 3470/340, or Four Winns 348 Vista... or something similar. I was leaning toward the Cruisers 3470 once the wife chimed in with her request for a seperate shower. However never one to close a door, I stumbled on a 380DA during a Yachtworld search. I really liked it. The layout was fantastic, however the price tag was going to hurt too much. Naturally, this got me looking at similar models, which led me to the 370DA.
I liked that model even more, found one local (95 model), and had a look. I won't waste time with details, suffice it to say it was not taken care of at all. :smt021
That trip did serve a purpose though. We fell in love with the design layout. Big and spacious, but not overly so where it's intimidating (keep in mind I'm coming from a 32' cruiser). I also loved the true C shaped seating whereas the 380 seating appeared more of a couch with two winglets on each end. (BTW I am not a fan of the modern design with couches in the cabin where everyone faces forward, C or U shaped seating FTW) Finally, I liked the full size fridge of the 380, but the sink placement was a turn off.
The second 370 I looked at was a 98 model, and yes, I noticed the difference with the clearnance when standing at the helm. On the 95, my head was touching when standing at the helm (I'm only 5'10") not so on the 98 model, which BTW was visually awesome and obviously well taken care of by the PO; not to mention the the vinyl and interior was more neutral. This one has the vitricore but it's not dark cherry I think it is a light maple? I noticed one small 4"x4" patch of mold (or something) in the vitricore by the sink, and a small 4" crack in the vitricore where it bends next to the seat in the master berth area. Other than that it all looked great. The engines were replaced in 2003 I did not get the story why, but am guessing water ingestion. They have ~296 hours on them. They are the 380HP 7.4's. I am getting engine and transmission oil samples pulled this week, along with a mechanical inspection and compression. Survey and Sea trial is 12/28.

This was one of those moments when you just know this is the one. I've looked at many boats since I sold my 3055. I liked most of them, but I loved the 370DA. Better yet the wife loved it. :grin: So that's that.

Wish me luck with survey... and if ya'll got any model specific things I should be on the lookout for, please pass on my way. Even if the worst happens and it doesn't work out with this particular DA, I'm pretty sure I'll end up in the family now that I've examined them up close. I'll keep you posted.

Todd
 
Congrats and good luck Todd. It's great to,have youmherenand welcome.

Glad you got your issues taken care of!

Mark
 
Todd,

Welcome to CSR and Congrats on the purchase!! Good luck with the surveys etc!! I hope it works out well for you.

Todd
 
Todd,

Congrats on finding "the one". I Briefly owned a '96 370 DA and loved it. Plenty of room, engine bay is easy to get around in, and with the 380hp's it will get around great. Good luck with everything and have a Merry Christmas.
 
Congrats and welcome. Hope all goes well with the survey etc.
 
Good luck Todd with the survey, I love the 370, maybe in my future too!!
 
Congrats Welcome Aboard! Good luck with everything:)
 
Another Sea Ray floating around Tampa Bay! I hope things go well and maybe we'll see you out on the water.
 
Congrats on zeroing in on a very nice boat. I've been aboard AMFM3's 370 and it's a great boat. Roomy, nice layout in the cabin and cockpit areas.

Good luck with your survey, but if it doesn't pan out, don't be in too big a rush. Take your time and do your due diligence before you sign on any dotted lines.
 
Ditto, Tritto on finding a 370!!!. Bassed on on your description, you might have a sister of my boat. There are only a limited few that have the maple interior. By my count, I have only located about 6 examples out of the hundreds (thousands?) of 370s made. Maple was only available in '97 and '98.

Besides reading all of the 370 thread, take a look at my site at www.370sundancer.com. Be sure to check out the boats there for ideas. And when you are ready send me some photos to add to the site. If you recognize your boat there, be sure to claim it I will make changes to the page for it.

Gene
 
So I just found out that during the "pre-trial" (broker took it out to ensure all was okay) they found water in one of the transmissions. They have a mechanic on the boat now. I guess a copper coolant pipe leaked? Anyways, it's being addressed. We'll see how that goes....
 
Hex I loved the Bayliner 3055. I never owned one but really wanted one several years ago. I even considered the 325 when I started looking for the boat I have now. Lots of boat for the money. I like Rinker for the same reason.

Good luck with the tranny, the rest of the survey, and welcome aboard!
 
We shall see... apparently fixed the transmission... but when I arrived they had a mechanic fixing the steering (cylinder by the rear transom?) which needs repair but the mechanics fixed it good enough for the sea trial. Basically it leaks, badly. Bottom looked nice, but the surveryor shot the temps and noticed one engine was 80-100 degrees hotter than the other. So I guess the oil cooler has an issue? One more issue as well but can't remember it now... we'll see when I get the full report back.... I guess I'll see what the PO is willing to address and go from there. Oh, and the port side engine would not restart once we stopped for gas... ugh.... boat looks immaculate but all these issues may kill the deal.
 
We shall see... apparently fixed the transmission... but when I arrived they had a mechanic fixing the steering (cylinder by the rear transom?) which needs repair but the mechanics fixed it good enough for the sea trial. Basically it leaks, badly. Bottom looked nice, but the surveryor shot the temps and noticed one engine was 80-100 degrees hotter than the other. So I guess the oil cooler has an issue? One more issue as well but can't remember it now... we'll see when I get the full report back.... I guess I'll see what the PO is willing to address and go from there. Oh, and the port side engine would not restart once we stopped for gas... ugh.... boat looks immaculate but all these issues may kill the deal.

Hex,

I agree with you on possibly passing on this one. Is the engine that wouldn't restart the same one that was running hot?

Leaks, mechanical issues, reliability, these are definitely things to consider before the purchase. I don't understand why some people don't have their acts together when they are selling a boat. I mean really, who wants to see a mechanic doing a bubble gum repair on a leaking (Hydraulic I believe) steering system as they pull up for sea trial? Then it runs hot, doesn't restart? All I know is that when I sell something I go through it before hand to be sure there will be no red flags or disappointments to the best of my ability. I understand that anything can happen (Like when the dashlight transformer fried as I was standing in my cockpit with potential buyers) but this sounds like a myriad of issues that should have really been addressed before the boat was ever listed. Just my 2 cents.
 
Todd...

Looks are just that...looks. An engine running hot is a problem. I'd have the mechanic check the exhaust manifolds and risers too. I doubt that its an oil pan issue. Maybe it's time for you to have an independent marine mechanic have a look.

Mark
 
OP here... This sure is turning out to be a unique situation.
I'm not one to walk away until a deal breaker arises... to this point, that hasn't happened. The owner is undergoing $6500 in repairs. There are like 12 issues ranging from rudder stuffing box to low compression on a cylinder, to fuel cooler leak, to risers, to water found in the transmission and one of the engines. Now.... I'm not completely stupid. I'll get an independent mechanic survey once all is claimed to be corrected (if all is/can be corrected). Meantime I lose nothing by giving them the opportunity to see if they can make everything right. The only rush to buy is one I create.

There's also a couple other things that have kept me around. First and most importantly, nobody is hiding anything. Everyone has been forthwright in bringing the issues forward and also the potential risks associated. Honesty and integrity are plentiful and evident by both the seller and the broker. Second, I believe my risk - should the boat indeed be fixed and independently verified - is in line with the agreed price. Third, after looking at about 12 boats and countless hours spent on yachtworld I won't be happy with anything other than a 370da or 380da. By all "my" measures, it is exactly what I am looking for. 380da is a close second but they are out of my price range as I refuse to get a loan for a used toy. and finally...

I'm pretty set on the '98 model year. Mainly the arch, but also I want the light maple interior and the more modern neutral interior colors. Sure, I could get everything re-upholstered on any 37DA... but at what added cost? The issues with this DA is that she was a dock queen and not run; as I mentioned cosmetically I beieve she is above average given her year. So yes, I am currently giving the owner's the benefit of the doubt and allowing them to attempt to make it right.
One last thought... maybe right or wrong.... but I don't see prices for 33' and larger boats going down given the industry has not been building them in quantity the last few years and then what Sandy did to inventory. Many things go into a risk assessment and although a small factor, I haven't ignored this potential.

Thoughts and opinions welcomed.
Thanks,
Todd
 
Todd,

It sounds like you have thought this out well and are not letting emotions dictate your decision. My main concern at this point is not what has been discovered and corrected (since you feel full disclosure is in play) but what will pop up 3, 6 or 12 months down the road. As you state, she has been a dock queen and I am guessing you will want to run her. There just seems to be greater potential for issues to arise due to the different nature in the future use. Good luck and keep us posted.
 

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