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Any fans out there? I don’t know the first thing about it, but have been told by many that I need to see a race in person.

They are in Phoenix today and we’re heading out to PIR. I think we have pretty good seats, not that I would know the difference.

Any advice, aside from earplugs?
 
NASCAR is pointless. NASCAR, the National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing doesn't race stock cars. Back in the 60s, 70s and part of the 80s when they really were racing stock cars, it was kind of interesting. You could actually buy a Ford Torino Talladega or a Plymouth Roadrunner Superbird that won Sunday's race on Monday morning. Now, there isn't even a passing resemblance mechanically.

Now dealer showrooms are full of sissy cars. Sure next to the econoboxes, mommycars, and minivans you can still find a Mustang GT500 or a Corvette, but these days lots of so called guys don't even own a car or truck with a V8! Some never have owned one. Pathetic.

 
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Yes,that about sums it up.I built up a totally stock camaro for street cruising and race at our dragstrip and it has a '91 merc block,454. still has the merc i.d. badge on it:thumbsup:
 
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Any fans out there? I don’t know the first thing about it, but have been told by many that I need to see a race in person.

They are in Phoenix today and we’re heading out to PIR. I think we have pretty good seats, not that I would know the difference.

Any advice, aside from earplugs?

What's to know, turn left, drive fast. Sorry, not a fan.

And I love speed(as witnessed by my fist full of speeding ticket stubs - argh - I prefer to drive to road conditions vs road signs - dbl argh) .... go figure. I prefer the F1 or Motorcycle races, even motocross is more interesting to me.
 
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"....you could actually buy a Ford Torino Talladega or a Plymouth Roadrunner Superbird that won Sunday's race on Monday morning....."

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Sure, if you have about 150-200 g's :)

I follow Montoya as I've seen him race in F1 and like to see a guy that's diverse in his racing talents.
 
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"....you could actually buy a Ford Torino Talladega or a Plymouth Roadrunner Superbird that won Sunday's race on Monday morning....."

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Sure, if you have about 150-200 g's :)
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They're not quite that much today. But I was speaking of the 1960s though 1970. Those cars were about $4 grand back then. The Hemi was about an $800 option. The same basic platform, suspension, body, and engine were in the race cars as were in the dealer's showroom. The cars on today's track have nothing in common with what's in the dealer's showroom.
 
then they had to sell the car before it was considered for stock car raceing,427ci aluminum block what a ride
They're not quite that much today. But I was speaking of the 1960s though 1970. Those cars were about $4 grand back then. The Hemi was about an $800 option. The same basic platform, suspension, body, and engine were in the race cars as were in the dealer's showroom. The cars on today's track have nothing in common with what's in the dealer's showroom.
 
My advice for the race is to rent a radio and headphones. Tune it to MRN or the cable network. This way you can keep up with whats going on. Otherwise you won't have a clue once they get a bunch of laps into it.

To the haters - If you don't take the time to understand whats going on, then it is definitely just cars going around making left turns. If you do take the time to understand it you'll find its the best form of weekly televised motorsports out there. I like any kind of racing, I can't get enough of it. Any of it. But when I tune into a F1 race on Sunday mornings I can never find the "race". Its a bunch of automated and sophisticated cars going around track with nobody passing anybody. That's not racing. There are few glimpses of excitement here and there in F1, but otherwise its about as Vanilla as it can get. As far as the caliber of drivers. Ask Montoya, Villenueve, Franchitti or any of the IRL crew that are in Nascar how good the Nascar drivers are. Montoya can't even win on a Nascar road course. Anyway, if you don't understand the complexities of Nascar and everything that is happening in a race then it is just cars going around an oval.
 
They're not quite that much today. But I was speaking of the 1960s though 1970. Those cars were about $4 grand back then. The Hemi was about an $800 option. The same basic platform, suspension, body, and engine were in the race cars as were in the dealer's showroom. The cars on today's track have nothing in common with what's in the dealer's showroom.

Boy, do I agree with you. How come GT2 cars seem to do it, but Nascar cannot? That is actually field cars that are mostly based on a production model, albeit highly modified. On another note, if you ever get a chance to watch vintage racing (road tracks) with a bunch of old Camaros, Mustangs, and Mopars, it is a sight you will not soon forget.
 
Boy, do I agree with you. How come GT2 cars seem to do it, but Nascar cannot? That is actually field cars that are mostly based on a production model, albeit highly modified. On another note, if you ever get a chance to watch vintage racing (road tracks) with a bunch of old Camaros, Mustangs, and Mopars, it is a sight you will not soon forget.

That's the point I was (badly) making. NASCAR is as artificial as F1. Both are ground up purpose built cars that bear little resemblance to what we get to buy in the showroom. It's the pro-wresting of motorsports.

One of the fellows in the marina has a 914 that he races on weekends. He gets some ridiculous horsepower from that little engine, and seems to always be breaking something, but that's real racing with a real car.

On the other hand, I got a few laps in a 2009 Jaguar XKR on the Monticello Motor Club's F1 track with an F1 instructor. That was fun.
 
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