Official 280 Sundancer Thread

cgraft said:
04 SINGLE SCREW 280 SUNDANCER
trim down, anchor up

It just started where when I try to plane out it will only reach 2800 RPM max! It just sounds sluggish almost feels as if it were overloaded or dragging something. If I put it in neutral and disengage the prop I can get it as high as I want so to speak. I trailer trimmed up and felt for something wrapped around prop but couldnt find anything (keep in mind its dark out and I just got here this evening). I am going to get in the water and check again tomorrow. Any suggestions or help greatly appreciated!
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Follow up after Marine Max attorney I mean mechanic $99.00 an hour showed up two fouled spark plugs replaced all and ran again like a scalded ape.....May keep some extras for the future. He said it was common in the 496
 
Anyone know where the amplifier for the cockpit speakers is located? I have 2009 280 with the Sony stereo and am getting cracking/pop noises in the cockpit speakers when the engine is running or when plugged into shore power. Sounds like an amp grounding problem. I'm going to have the dealer take a look at it, but am curious on where the amp is located.
 
nwboater said:
Anyone know where the amplifier for the cockpit speakers is located? I have 2009 280 with the Sony stereo and am getting cracking/pop noises in the cockpit speakers when the engine is running or when plugged into shore power. Sounds like an amp grounding problem. I'm going to have the dealer take a look at it, but am curious on where the amp is located.
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My amp is behind the mirrored cabinet door of the midbirth, just to the left of the electrical panel in the cabin.
 
Has anyone come up with a good solution to the AC freezing anyone sitting on the forward dinnete seat? I've thought about this design defect for some time and started to create a deflection down the hull instead of out the wooden opening.
 
gerryb said:
Has anyone come up with a good solution to the AC freezing anyone sitting on the forward dinnete seat? I've thought about this design defect for some time and started to create a deflection down the hull instead of out the wooden opening.
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I have never noticed that issue. No one else has complained to me about it before.
 
gerryb said:
Has anyone come up with a good solution to the AC freezing anyone sitting on the forward dinnete seat? I've thought about this design defect for some time and started to create a deflection down the hull instead of out the wooden opening.
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My wife stuffs a dish towel in the top wooden slat opening which deflects the air towards the floor and keeps it from hitting you in the face when you are sitting in the dinnete seat.
 
NorthvilleJim said:
My wife stuffs a dish towel in the top wooden slat opening which deflects the air towards the floor and keeps it from hitting you in the face when you are sitting in the dinnete seat.
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Funny, my wife does the same thing. Was looking for something 'more better'. I think I'm going to see if I can but some kind of restrictor/baffle in the plastic duct that leads up to that part of the venting system
 
Easy, just slide a thin piece of plastic down the side between the cabinet and the divider. If you open up the left cabinet, the air travels through a hole cut in the divider and under the floor of the cabinet. A thin piece of plastic can slide between and you can control how much air travels.
 
We're considering making the move from our 260 to a 280DA. Currently we get between 2 an 2.3 mpg, and I'm curious to hear what I can expect from a 280 with a single 496.
 
Steve.Lynette said:
We're considering making the move from our 260 to a 280DA. Currently we get between 2 an 2.3 mpg, and I'm curious to hear what I can expect from a 280 with a single 496.
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Already! You're a dream client for Marine Max...that would be 3 boats in 3 years, correct?

Don't jump 2 feet. The only thing you are gaining in the 280 is the additional cockpit seating. I don't think you'll feel the difference otherwise.

I don't have good numbers for the mileage yet....I just know that the 496 sucks gas like nothing I've ever seen. I swear it lets out nice big belch at the end of a trip just to let me know how much it drank for the day.

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Tonka Boater said:
Don't jump 2 feet. The only thing you are gaining in the 280 is the additional cockpit seating. I don't think you'll feel the difference otherwise.
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I kinda agree as well. The only reason I can think of is to keep it towable. :huh:
 
Tonka Boater said:
Already! You're a dream client for Marine Max...that would be 3 boats in 3 years, correct?

Don't jump 2 feet. The only thing you are gaining in the 280 is the additional cockpit seating. I don't think you'll feel the difference otherwise.

I don't have good numbers for the mileage yet....I just know that the 496 sucks gas like nothing I've ever seen. I swear it lets out nice big belch at the end of a trip just to let me know how much it drank for the day.

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My son tells me the same thing, "Wait a year and get a 310/320". The Admiral thinks the dinette in the 280 would be a huge improvement.

Do you find the bench seating in the cockpit comfortable?
 
Steve,

I agree on making the jump a bigger increment. While we are happy with our 280, present economy issues aside, we would move up to a 340 if given the choice. Unfortunately a 280 is the biggest boat we can get and be able to use because of tiadl restrictons.

But to answer your mpg questions, the 496seems to be getting 1.3 nautical miles to the gallon. This however has been based on limited use, and very little travel out into Massachusetts Bay. Big waves, currents and wind knock hat right down to around 1.1 1.2 ish.

Cockpit seating is comfortable for four to sit and chat, six adults is a stretch but doable. The frisbee table has to go and be replaced with a rectangular top before anyone can actually eat a meal up top.

Henry
 
Posting in a new direction, but definitley 280 related. I have had irritation levels of water in the ER for the past couple years. After fixing the bellows, and then doing the steering arm seals with the gimbal ring this spring I thought I had finally gotten the leak. But no it wasn't so.

Before it starting raining here I cleaned everything out and got the bilge dry. I went to check on things after the first week of rain and found fresh water in the bilge. I also found a little water in one of the ER vent hoses.

Even though the caulking looked good in a move of desperation I got out a tube of 3M silicone and caulked the top seal of the clamshell air scoop/ vent cover. It presently looks like h_ll. But after a week of rain everything is still dry!

So today's helpful hint is that caulking the top of the vent covers will pay off.

Henry
 
Henry Boyd said:
Steve,

I agree on making the jump a bigger increment. While we are happy with our 280, present economy issues aside, we would move up to a 340 if given the choice. Unfortunately a 280 is the biggest boat we can get and be able to use because of tiadl restrictons.

But to answer your mpg questions, the 496seems to be getting 1.3 nautical miles to the gallon. This however has been based on limited use, and very little travel out into Massachusetts Bay. Big waves, currents and wind knock hat right down to around 1.1 1.2 ish.

Cockpit seating is comfortable for four to sit and chat, six adults is a stretch but doable. The frisbee table has to go and be replaced with a rectangular top before anyone can actually eat a meal up top.

Henry
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Henry,
Thanks. So it sounds like a 310/320 with twins would get about the same mpg as a 280 with a single 496. Is that close...or is my math way off??

Steve
 
Steve,

I would say that its close. We have friends with a 320 that we travel with from time to time. We've never really compared fuel bills, but we both seem to spend the same amount of time at the gas dock when we stop along the way.

Henry
 
Dont worry about the fuel usage - that's really not big dollars for these size boats. (This is not the fishing battlewagon type of crowd here.) If I had a 260, the ONLY reason I would even think about a 280 is so as to be able to keep it on a trailer. The 320 is one hell of a boat for the money. The single engine should give you enough power and leaves room to work in the ER - but it doesn't have nearly enough ponies to really move that much weight - it is what I would call adequate. Just seems like it is too close to what you already have! I think there would be a good chance that you would regret moving to the 280 and not to a 320.
 
You guys are making alot of sense. My wife and I are retiring in less than five years and we plan on spending alot of time on the boat. It's our lake home.

The 280 cabin seems substantially larger than my 260, but I suppose it would get small quickly....just like the 260 did. When we moved from the 220SD to the 260DA it felt like the Queen Mary. For awhile.
 
Steve.Lynette said:
The 280 cabin seems substantially larger than my 260, but I suppose it would get small quickly....just like the 260 did. When we moved from the 220SD to the 260DA it felt like the Queen Mary. For awhile.
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This is so true. I am feeling the same way already going from a 240SD to the 280DA. I love the 280 and it will be our boat for years to come but they shrink quickly the more you use them.

Regarding Henry's assessment -- I find 6 adults in the cockpit is comfortable and 8 is pushing it. But that's me. I also find the seating in all areas to be very comfortable.

Wait for another year or 2 and get something larger than 310, you'll be happy you waited.

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