Anyone else getting inundated with Camp Lejeune claim solicitations?

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Over the last month or so, my email boxes have been hammered with ambulance chaser law firms soliciting for personal injury claims regarding the contaminated drinking water at Camp Lejeune. I never served in the Military or ever lived west of the Mississippi! I have no idea how I would be on a data base that would cover the affected demographic for this class action lawsuit. Anyone else getting these?
CD
 
None in the email yet, but all over local TV stations.
 
Even after marking it as Spam. They must be using different email addresses, as the subject line is nearly always the same.
 
It really is amazing how these military bases end up as superfund clean up projects. Its been in the news lately about a base on Oahu HI with leaking jet fuel into the water table. With all the money allocated to our DOD one would think that the most advanced society on the planet could afford the technology to mitigate these issues before they become serious health concerns. We have no problem affording 100 times the cost of mitigation to paying out injury claims years later though. I say, round up the officers in charge of these facilities and throw them in prison for dereliction of duty and make it very public. I don't care if they are long retired. Some one looked the other way after the problem was detected initially. These things are almost always preventable.
 
The really sick thing is all the attorneys and firms that will reap mega$$ from these rewards.

Congress has already allocated funds for these "victims", so there really shouldn't be much to a lawsuit other than providing verification that the "victim" was actually exposed when they were onsite (that they were actually stationed or working there when the problem was occurring) and that they actually have medical issues that need attention.
 
Carpediem44DB said:
Over the last month or so, my email boxes have been hammered with ambulance chaser law firms soliciting for personal injury claims regarding the contaminated drinking water at Camp Lejeune. I never served in the Military or ever lived west of the Mississippi! I have no idea how I would be on a data base that would cover the affected demographic for this class action lawsuit. Anyone else getting these?
CD
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I thought CA was west of the Mississippi?

:cool:

Bennett
 
Carpediem44DB said:
It really is amazing how these military bases end up as superfund clean up projects. Its been in the news lately about a base on Oahu HI with leaking jet fuel into the water table. With all the money allocated to our DOD one would think that the most advanced society on the planet could afford the technology to mitigate these issues before they become serious health concerns. We have no problem affording 100 times the cost of mitigation to paying out injury claims years later though. I say, round up the officers in charge of these facilities and throw them in prison for dereliction of duty and make it very public. I don't care if they are long retired. Some one looked the other way after the problem was detected initially. These things are almost always preventable.
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Look at the burn pits in Afghanistan ….. you don’t need to be a rocket scientist to know the fumes were poisonous and would cause cancer….. and they ordered it anyway
 
Carpediem44DB said:
It really is amazing how these military bases end up as superfund clean up projects. Its been in the news lately about a base on Oahu HI with leaking jet fuel into the water table. With all the money allocated to our DOD one would think that the most advanced society on the planet could afford the technology to mitigate these issues before they become serious health concerns. We have no problem affording 100 times the cost of mitigation to paying out injury claims years later though. I say, round up the officers in charge of these facilities and throw them in prison for dereliction of duty and make it very public. I don't care if they are long retired. Some one looked the other way after the problem was detected initially. These things are almost always preventable.
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I think that's a pretty broad stroke of the brush. Some of the most prolific cases of ground water contamination found at Air Force bases (and airports) are due to chemicals that at the time of their use were thought (known) to be safe. Even permitted and licensed by the appropriate regulatory agencies.

Even being 100% legal at the time doth not protect one from unlimited liability in the future. And rightfully so I suppose. But I wouldn't round up officers and have public lynchings since they were probably following orders, as they are required to do.

I'd pay the claims, fire the lawyers and move on...
 
i get a bunch including camp leleune
 
Carpediem44DB said:
With all the money allocated to our DOD one would think that the most advanced society on the planet could afford
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As one who defends the DoD through environmental cleanup, I can tell you its not cheap. Just with one set of emerging compounds (PFAS; major component in AFFF-Think fire fighting foam) the cleanup estimate for DoD alone is estimated $10B. Fuels and USTs? Ha, those were all the rage 25 years ago. These class action DAs are WAY behind where the real action is at. Hopefully EPA gets their Sheet together and finalizes goals so we can get going on PFAS cleanup to avoid this class action tomfoolery. The UST guys are likely fighting a loosing battle because its unlikely anyone was on the base long enough to drink a liter of water a day for 20 years (and even then would be 1 in a million chance of cancer).
 
89P270 said:
As one who defends the DoD through environmental cleanup, I can tell you its not cheap. Just with one set of emerging compounds (PFAS; major component in AFFF-Think fire fighting foam) the cleanup estimate for DoD alone is estimated $10B. Fuels and USTs? Ha, those were all the rage 25 years ago. These class action DAs are WAY behind where the real action is at. Hopefully EPA gets their Sheet together and finalizes goals so we can get going on PFAS cleanup to avoid this class action tomfoolery. The UST guys are likely fighting a loosing battle because its unlikely anyone was on the base long enough to drink a liter of water a day for 20 years (and even then would be 1 in a million chance of cancer).
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You're a lawyer? Camp Lejeune PFAS levels are in the 170,000ppt range, yes? The 2018 EPA "safe" lifetime level for PFOA/PFAS is 70ppt and is based on a 70kg adult consuming 2 liters per day. I couldn't find the EPA's definition of a lifetime. But if we say a lifetime is 70 years the folks at Camp Lajuene would have consumed their safe lifetime limit of PFAS in just over 10 days, or 21 liters of water.

I think your 1 in a million chance of cancer may be a bit optimistic. DuPont, 3M, Saint-Gobain, Honeywell and Wolverine Worldwide also likely think you're being optimistic based on the billions they've paid (so far) in settlements over PFAS/PFOA contamination in this country :)

The good news is that EPA health advisory levels aren't legally enforceable. Makes it easier for lawyers to get wicked, wicked rich before reaching those billion dollar settlements.

EDIT - Someone can certainly check my math. I was racing through that a bit :)
 
I qualify for the roundup law suit. I used roundup and I got cancer ….. how the heck they prove the two are related is beyond me….. I am curious so I might hit the send button….. it just doesn’t feel right….. it’s like reverse mortgages I applied to see how it works with no intent of doing it….. might do the same with roundup
 
I'm actually in the affected class; I'm from the area and worked at LeJeune for several years in high school and summers while in college. Thankfully I've had none of the illnesses, at least as of yet. I was contacted by the Marine Corps and was enrolled in a registry of potential victims at least 10 years ago which has provided regular updates on studies of the problem and medical care that could be requested and paid for. I haven't been getting any of the recent emails others seem to be getting but I have seen some of the TV ads. I suspect why are using one or more of the marketing databases out there to they to sweep up potential victims who might not already be in the system. I suspect there are only a few based on my experience.
There were a few law suits seeking damages that ran up against problems restricting the ability to sue at both the federal and state levels (the lawyers probably understand the technicalities). Congress passed some legislation that opens up the gates just this year. This seems to have incited the ambulance-chasers to try to get in on the action. From their perspective, finding just a few new potential victims to include in the class is probably worth their while as they see it.
As far a condemning DoD and retired base commanders, as has been said, this is a very complicated problem. DoD has been working on environmental issues for decades and I suspect is way ahead of commercial entities that have no interest in revealing damaging practices that occurred long ago. I would be interested in the opinions of those on here who clearly are involved in environmental litigation as to whether my assumption that DoD is the tip of the iceberg has merit.
 
Stee6043 said:
You're a lawyer?
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No
Stee6043 said:
EPA "safe" lifetime level for PFOA/PFAS is 70ppt
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That has already been revised to an order of magnitude less
Stee6043 said:
I think your 1 in a million chance of cancer may be a bit optimistic.
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Its not my limit, its EPA's Limit as to acceptable cancer risk and what drives their Cleanup goals.
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billions they've paid (so far)
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This is likely not actual but rather proposed. Not aware there have been actual settlements at this point within the US. If you know of them, reference please.
 
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89P270 said:
This is likely not actual but rather proposed. Not aware there have been actual settlements at this point within the US. If you know of them, reference please.
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All of the companies I mentioned above have had rather public settlements surrounding PFAS/PFOA litigation. I myself benefited from a $70M +/- settlement from Wolverine Worldwide in Michigan.

Dupont is the biggest I'm aware of at $4Billion.

https://www.dupont.com/news/dupont-corteva-chemours-announce-resolution-legacy-pfas-claims.html
 
Blueone said:
I qualify for the roundup law suit. I used roundup and I got cancer ….. how the heck they prove the two are related is beyond me….. I am curious so I might hit the send button….. it just doesn’t feel right….. it’s like reverse mortgages I applied to see how it works with no intent of doing it….. might do the same with roundup
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They don't. None of it is "proven". It's only "associated with" an increase and they make a circumstantial emotional case.
 
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