Spring Buff - product change

Spoke to rep on phone. He said that Pro Cut and Bubble gum are actually two separate one-step applications depending on the condition of your boat. If oxidized use Pro-cut then White Cloud Wax. If boat is in good shape then use Bubble Gum and White Cloud. Now I understand the skepticism when I read the threads. He said both products have diminishing abrasives and would polish down leaving no swirl marks. Find that hard to believe. I hate to ask but did you use Pro-Cut or Bubble gum, or did you do both? I think you said you've used it a couple years now, what do you think? If your familiar with Shurhold this Pro-cut and white cloud sounds a lot like the Buff Magic and Pro-Polish. Why did you switch from Presta?

I spoke with Jeff at Smoove as well before I made the switch. Good guy that knows his stuff.

I bought Presta when I was doing a few gelcoat repairs a few boats ago. Sold my barely used Presta kit on Facebook for almost what I had in it. None of the boats I've owned have had any oxidation until my current (thats what I get for buying a 12 year old boat). Before Smoove I really just used Starbrite Premium Polish (still have a bottle).

Smoove is really easy to use and not complicated. Aside from removing sanding marks, my first time using pro cut was last week. I put Bubble Gum on after to remove any remaining swirls and also act as the wax until I get to it (it's on my non dock side).

@Geowh pick a product, buy it and go.

@Shaps I agree 100%. Your boat looks damn good!

@Blueone I'm right here, chill! The wife asked if I was going to open this box of Starke or send it back... and there it sits.

Maybe @Geowh wants it?
 
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I spoke with Jeff at Smoove as well before I made the switch. Good guy that knows his stuff.

I bought Presta when I was doing a few gelcoat repairs a few boats ago. Sold my barely used Presta kit on Facebook for almost what I had in it. None of the boats I've owned have had any oxidation until my current (thats what I get for buying a 12 year old boat). Before Smoove I really just used Starbrite Premium Polish (still have a bottle).

Smoove is really easy to use and not complicated. Aside from removing sanding marks, my first time using pro cut was last week. I put Bubble Gum on after to remove any remaining swirls and also act as the wax until I get to it (it's on my non dock side).

@Geowh pick a product, buy it and go.

@Shaps I agree 100%. Your boat looks damn good!

@Blueone I'm right here, chill! The wife asked if I was going to open this box of Starke or send it back... and there it sits.

Maybe @Geowh wants it?
Just because you didn’t take her panties off doesn’t mean you didn’t cheat….. you have some making up to do…..whether you open up that “box” or not…LOL
 
He said both products have diminishing abrasives and would polish down leaving no swirl marks. Find that hard to believe.

I will tell you, using the small rotary with a white wool pad and really working the pro-cut, it diminishes VERY well - I was blown away. Could I have gotten away without doing BG? Quite possibly...but I was running out of time so BG went on (again, it acts as a finish coat as well)...
 
I will tell you, using the small rotary with a white wool pad and really working the pro-cut, it diminishes VERY well - I was blown away. Could I have gotten away without doing BG? Quite possibly...but I was running out of time so BG went on (again, it acts as a finish coat as well)...

I'm hoping to be able to skip the pro-cut next year and only use BG top and bottom. We'll see how it all holds up this summer...
 
On a not so serious note, I used to be that guy who had to have a shiny shiny see myself in it gelcoat. I obsessed about it. If I got a smudge in the gelcoat I had to buff it out quickly. I studied all of the products, buffers, towels, etc.

Now though, with this boat, I care, I just want to use the boat and not obsess about it. I am asking myself "why did I care so much before" To me it's about protecting the gelcoat from weather/sun/etc. now, not is it nice and shiny and I can see myself in it. The boat currently has some "rub marks" on the gelcoat that I have yet to take care of. I see them, think "meh" and move on. In the past I would have had 23 things out working on it.

Not sure what the change is/was, but I like it :)

There will always be someone with a bigger, faster, cleaner, shinier, prettier....boat.
 
On a not so serious note, I used to be that guy who had to have a shiny shiny see myself in it gelcoat. I obsessed about it. If I got a smudge in the gelcoat I had to buff it out quickly. I studied all of the products, buffers, towels, etc.

Now though, with this boat, I care, I just want to use the boat and not obsess about it. I am asking myself "why did I care so much before" To me it's about protecting the gelcoat from weather/sun/etc. now, not is it nice and shiny and I can see myself in it. The boat currently has some "rub marks" on the gelcoat that I have yet to take care of. I see them, think "meh" and move on. In the past I would have had 23 things out working on it.

Not sure what the change is/was, but I like it :)

There will always be someone with a bigger, faster, cleaner, shinier, prettier....boat.

There will be...but for now...on my dock, the shiny one is me! Once its shiny...it is EASY to maintain.

5+ boats and I've never had an issue aside from washing when needed and waxing in the spring. Even on my 33' I hired a company to do a bi-weekly wash and she stayed looking good....with this 37' a different company did the wash and I bet used harsh stuff on it.

Now that its just me doing the wash (and my 9 year old in a few years)...she should stay shiny! Now if the lake would just calm down and the sun would shine. I've been in 8 days and almost half that time there has been 30+ mph winds....


I'm hoping to be able to skip the pro-cut next year and only use BG top and bottom. We'll see how it all holds up this summer...

Maybe we will cross paths again in SH? As @Blueone keeps saying...it really is a great product. Unfortunately the shiny thing always catches my eye....

Now who the hell needs to buy some Starke!?
 
You will be disappointed you sent em back... you'll see...

Sorry @Blueone...

Well I cracked open the box yesterday, nice packaging and really like the bottle tops compared to Smoove's that just unscrew completely.

Tried to think of what I could use the Hybrid Marine Sealant on to test it out (it's very liquidity)... and the kitchen sink won.

Don't tell the Mrs.... but this test spot was still beading up quite nicely after doing dishes twice and hitting that spot with Dawn....

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Color me impressed...I may just have to use this to top the area I hit with Bubble Gum before my launch...
 
I didn’t think this was too bad…. I just spent three days at the boat ….. if you figure hotel and food and hanging out with friends cost around $700……. and I don’t have to do it

this is just below the rub rail…. They did above rub rail last year

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I didn’t think this was too bad…. I just spent three days at the boat ….. if you figure hotel and food and hanging out with friends cost around $700……. and I don’t have to do it

this is just below the rub rail…. They did above rub rail last year

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Not bad, for rub rail down. My is all done and ready for Spring launch. Can't wait!!!!!!!!!
 
Not bad, for rub rail down. My is all done and ready for Spring launch. Can't wait!!!!!!!!!
You’re such an over achiever….. last week I went up on a Wednesday afternoon just checked into a hotel then met a friend for dinner…. Thursday all ready to go to storage ….. I get there and don’t have my fob …… god damn it…. Go to the office a bit away …. They said we can give you another but no one here to program it…. But we can let you in remotely….. $100 later away I go….. get to the boat go to plug in and I don’t have an extension cord to reach…… it’s close to lunch on my way to the most expensive hardware store on the planet and get another call from a buddy …. He said I heard you were in town let’s go for lunch…. Or buy a really expensive extension cord so lunch it was….spent a couple hours there….. work called and said you need to work on a big quote today….so back to hotel and Lost Thursday…. Friday had to get home to Indy ….. so I got a quote to do the work I should have been able to knock out in a day and a half….. damn boats :)
 
You’re such an over achiever….. last week I went up on a Wednesday afternoon just checked into a hotel then met a friend for dinner…. Thursday all ready to go to storage ….. I get there and don’t have my fob …… god damn it…. Go to the office a bit away …. They said we can give you another but no one here to program it…. But we can let you in remotely….. $100 later away I go….. get to the boat go to plug in and I don’t have an extension cord to reach…… it’s close to lunch on my way to the most expensive hardware store on the planet and get another call from a buddy …. He said I heard you were in town let’s go for lunch…. Or buy a really expensive extension cord so lunch it was….spent a couple hours there….. work called and said you need to work on a big quote today….so back to hotel and Lost Thursday…. Friday had to get home to Indy ….. so I got a quote to do the work I should have been able to knock out in a day and a half….. damn boats :)
You need to get rid of that job, and your buddies, so you have more time for other priorities, like your boat ;)
 
I will be looking for a product this year that protects the topsides and above the rubrail from bird poop. I am not talking a few droppings, I am talking the entire top of the boat is almost black. I would still have last years shine, because I am in a covered slip, but for washing/cleaning off the bird poop. And there are still stains that I will need to buff out, only for more poop to plop on.
 

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