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Is that yours with the paint peeling?
Lynwood Ave. All the crack you could want.
 
The idiocy of all this is that if we are forced to go to electric cars, the infrastructure can't handle it. There is only so much juice to go around. If every house on your street is charging a tesla on a 20 deg. F winter night where is the juice to run your furnace going to come from?

Secondly, if you live in an area supported by a coal fired power plant, your fancy car is providing worse carbon emissions than your neighbor's gas powered car.

Thirdly, my friend (who is a tree-hugger) bought one of those newfangled lectric cars. I was impressed. It was quiet and smooth. Then I learned it weighed 5000 pounds. No wonder.

Unfortunately, on his way home he his a widdle baby deer and the car was totaled....so much for aluminum bodies and plastic seats.

It all will be over soon. When coal is outlawed many industries (and workers) will be gone. We already have 2 horses - plan to buy another one so I can go to the launch ramp and fish off the dock....
FINALLY! somebody gets what I am trying to say.
 
And as usual the conversation was gone away from the original question. Not what is more efficient. What is going to happen to the millions of jobs tied to the ICE industry. Even on here no one has a clue. Neither does our illustrious leaders who all want to go electric.
My son is a very good car mechanic by trade. And young. I guess his career will be gone in 10 years.
 
The other part about these electric boats is they are extremely light. Part of the reason they increase the efficiency is because they are prob 25-50% of the weight of traditional gas boats.
How does this affect the handling? What if it sinks? Oil and water don’t mix but the elements of a battery can cause serious contamination. Do the batteries have some airbag that floats them to the surface? I do see electric propulsion having a place but not without environmental concerns.

The technology is just recently becoming viable in the automotive world. A boat uses way more energy to go than a car and generally is a greater danger if you get stuck somewhere far from help.
 
Perhaps boats can be hydraulically powered with a hydrogen ramjet. It is about as feasible as electricity at this point.
 
Mind sharing which company that is? I've invested a bit in EV's and the power source companies.​
Not at all there are several with one an ETF-
Piedmont Lithium Inc (PLL) Purchased Aug at $52.1694, today $58.69
Amplify Lithium & Battery Technology ETF (BATT) Purchased Aug at $16.9558, today $19.99
Albermarle Corp (ALB) Purchased Aug at $218.1990, today $274.19
and
Nextera Energy Inc (NEE) Renewable Energy Purchased Apr at $76.9450, today $87.25

As an edit Piedmont is facing some EPA and public challenges in opening a mine in Gaston County N.C. but I think they will prevail.
 
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And as usual the conversation was gone away from the original question. Not what is more efficient. What is going to happen to the millions of jobs tied to the ICE industry. Even on here no one has a clue. Neither does our illustrious leaders who all want to go electric.
My son is a very good car mechanic by trade. And young. I guess his career will be gone in 10 years.
First off, the original question had nothing to do with any of that stuff. You injected that into this post. There are a lot of jobs in the EV markets. You have already identified that the current infrastructure can't support EVs, so the infrastructure will need to be built. That's jobs. Technicians will need to be trained to work on EVs. More jobs. There will be new technology to spin off from this. More jobs... We can either get on board and make those jobs in the US, or Europe/China will gladly take them.

I mean the following statement as a suggestion, not as a diss to your son, but your son should consider taking classes to become a boat mechanic or an EV technician. Both of them should become more lucrative in the not too distant future. 75% of the local marinas will no longer work on gas inboards. I'd pay good money to have someone I could trust on my boat, but right now, the only local gas guy gets filth everywhere while working and I have to spend as much time cleaning as I would if I just did the work myself.
 
Well fellas I have a Pal that used to buy all of Duke Energys carbon based fuels. When the green power thing kicked in he hated it. I assume everyone on here understands it is heavily subsidized.
Example
MwH
Solar $52
Nuclear $5 ( had this deal went down they would have D rated the Nuc plant)
The goverment was paying the difference, In this example the spread is huge costing us
tax payers a huge amount. When Duke took this one to the regulators they said lets hold up on that one.
Had coal fired power been available the difference not as great but still subsidized by tax payer.
If this country could pull off the Presidents vision on all electric cars in the next decade or 2 we don't have the generation to support it.
 
There are probably 25,000 give or take parts in a car. Cars will still be made and the gas/diesel engine has maybe 300 parts. There's not going to be the end of the world if gss/diesel powered cars went away. The vast majority of the parts in the cars today will carry over into non-ICE cars.

Michigan is approved the development of a wireless charging road. If that is found to be feasible, it'll allow ev's to theoretically run nonstop across the country. By the time it is implemented fully autonomous vehicles will be out. The car will sense the need to recharge, hop in the wireless charging lane, charge without stopping and then back into the fast lane once done.

Didn't people complain the end of the world was coming when the horse less carriage came out? It was a travesty at the time... We seemed to adapt. I'm sure the world will adapt to this.

I won't ever live long enough to see this evolution to happen. So, I'm not losing any sleep over it.
 
Sorry, i dont get it.
Went yesterday. For 5 minutes. Put $23 and filled tank. Will last 2 weeks, 400 miles.
EV lovers will go home, drag out a cord, plug in. Every night. In the rain snow cold.
To save $23? Stop just stop.
 
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ttMott, Here are my EV sector purchases. Some up, some down but all are long term investments.
DATE COST CURRENT
XPEV 6/30 44.32 54.05
IIPR 11/8 275.38 270.00
NVDA 11/22 335.10 326.58
NKLA 10/28 11.07 10.67
TSLA 2/14/2020 164.82 1113.89
LCID 11/15 44.61 52.28
RIVN 11/15 130.90 116.85
 
Sorry, i dont get it.
Went yesterday. For 5 minutes. Put $23 and filled tank. Will last 2 weeks, 400 miles.
EV lovers will go home, drag out a cord, plug in. Every night. In the rain snow cold.
To save $23? Stop just stop.

I'm not following your math here.

Did you only filled the tank of the Veloster 1/2 way? Quick math - $23 of fuel / $3.50 current price is 6.57 gallons (or maybe less). Veloster rated fuel capacity is 13.2 gallons. At an EPA rated 31 mpg combined use, that 6.57 gallons will cover 204 miles over the 2 weeks. I don't see how you are getting 400 miles out of $23 of fuel. That's 61 mpg (400 miles / 6.57 gallons).

I put $60 of gas in my tank last night. Indicated range was 400 miles. Even going to my office only 2x a week, it will last about 2 weeks (including other driving around town /errands). When I was driving to the office daily I was filling up every 4-5 days or so. I have a 10 year old sedan that's averaging 21.4 mph.

I think most vehicles today are not getting the efficiency of a Veloster - whether its 31 mpg or 61 mpg - and can't fill a tank for $23 so it's not a valid comparison. Many people also seem to be driving more than you are.
 
Sorry, i dont get it.
Went yesterday. For 5 minutes. Put $23 and filled tank. Will last 2 weeks, 400 miles.
EV lovers will go home, drag out a cord, plug in. Every night. In the rain snow cold.
To save $23? Stop just stop.
I don’t think they recommend charging every single night. Unless it’s needed. At your rate you’d charge once a week. Literally 30s to plug it in and walk away. You are making a stink over nothing. In fact the opposite argument is much more logical. Filling up at gas stations where you might get mugged and have to touch a handle they hundreds of other touch. That’s just barbaric.
 
I'm not following your math here.

Did you only filled the tank of the Veloster 1/2 way? Quick math - $23 of fuel / $3.50 current price is 6.57 gallons (or maybe less). Veloster rated fuel capacity is 13.2 gallons. At an EPA rated 31 mpg combined use, that 6.57 gallons will cover 204 miles over the 2 weeks. I don't see how you are getting 400 miles out of $23 of fuel. That's 61 mpg (400 miles / 6.57 gallons).

I put $60 of gas in my tank last night. Indicated range was 400 miles. Even going to my office only 2x a week, it will last about 2 weeks (including other driving around town /errands). When I was driving to the office daily I was filling up every 4-5 days or so. I have a 10 year old sedan that's averaging 21.4 mph.

I think most vehicles today are not getting the efficiency of a Veloster - whether its 31 mpg or 61 mpg - and can't fill a tank for $23 so it's not a valid comparison. Many people also seem to be driving more than you are.
He is using his grocery store fuel points for his calculations.
 
$100 and the pump shuts off. Then my credit card is rejected for a refuel at the same pump. Get out another credit card and put another $50 in. That 6.2 boss drinks gas but less than the v10 or 7.3 Godzilla.

I am more bothered by parking my 176” wheelbase truck than fueling it.
 
$100 and the pump shuts off. Then my credit card is rejected for a refuel at the same pump. Get out another credit card and put another $50 in. That 6.2 boss drinks gas but less than the v10 or 7.3 Godzilla.

I am more bothered by parking my 176” wheelbase truck than fueling it.

I hear ya about the v10. Mine gets 10mpg unless I'm going downhill and the wind is blowing from the back - then it's 11mpg. Luckily this is not my primary vehicle!
 
On my way to Myrtle Beach for the day. Just stopped to fill up so I thought I’d post some pictures.
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