Should you buy a gun or not?

TheDudeAbides said:
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I did say “tac lights”, not flashlights. Not exactly the same thing as today’s 500 lumen led’s. But yeah, even being “trained” doesn’t guarantee you don’t make mistakes or rash decisions in the moment.

these were the “tac lights” back in the day…..
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Lol... Even using my "moon beam" in the Corps, situational awareness wouldn't allow me to shoot an intruder blindly in the dark in a house where I knew a toddler was sleeping... Darwin award on that one.
 
Pirate Lady said:
I got a 44 Magnum Virginia 3rd model Dragoon. Awesome. Rock your world recoil. And a sweet Ruger single six .22 . Both totally impossible to trace. Gotta love North Ave. still want a 4” colt python. But Tyron and Dante cant seen find one.
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pretty sure I’ve seen a flyer from either Palmetto State Armory or Primary arms that had both the 6” and 4” Pythons on sale. I’m sure it was within the last week.
 
HawkX66 said:
Lol... Even using my "moon beam" in the Corps, situational awareness wouldn't allow me to shoot an intruder blindly in the dark in a house where I knew a toddler was sleeping... Darwin award on that one.
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Yeah but you have to remember not everyone has military training. That doesn’t mean they don’t still have the right to still own a firearm or defend their home. No $5000 Gucci AR can replace spending $1500 on a decent AR and the rest on ammo and training. But the reality is most gun owners don’t have adequate training or experience. That’s just how it is and why there are accidents. Hence why they make things like tac lights. Not exactly a replacement for proper training, but if it’ll decrease the chance of an accidental shooting, it’s a cheap investment for Joe gun owner.
 
Woody said:
If your son ever wants to part with the Mod 41 I know someone that's interested;)
Mine is the 7" barrel bought in '80 or '81. These are my favorites, both tac drivers, the single action Ruger is what I started the kids with.
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Woody, I doubt you could ever pry that from his cold, dead fingers, to quote a famous gun toter!
 
HawkX66 said:
PLEASE. Do not buy a firearm. With comments like that in a thread like this you surely aren't mature enough to hold one.
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I assume you simply got confused as to who you meant to reply to. :D

There is/are no rational thoughts coming out of that troll. o_O
 
TheDudeAbides said:
Yeah but you have to remember not everyone has military training. That doesn’t mean they don’t still have the right to still own a firearm or defend their home. No $5000 Gucci AR can replace spending $1500 on a decent AR and the rest on ammo and training. But the reality is most gun owners don’t have adequate training or experience. That’s just how it is and why there are accidents. Hence why they make things like tac lights. Not exactly a replacement for proper training, but if it’ll decrease the chance of an accidental shooting, it’s a cheap investment for Joe gun owner.
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Never said having a tac light was a bad idea. Shooting blindly in the dark is. No amount of training can fix stupid....
For example: The poor kid that died unnecessarily at a Mass gun range about 10 years ago. Some moron thought it would be ok to put a full auto in a little kid's hands. You can't fix stupid. Too bad that little boy had to pay for his father's stupidity.
 
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TheDudeAbides said:
There are many instances where there are legal guns owned that aren't registered because they are grandfathered and were family hand-downs (didn't require registration) or might fall somewhere in the 80% firearm category, which is also legal but not registered. Then there is a significant number of households that illegally possess firearms, if you were to also consider them "gun owners".
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Where do you live where you have to register firearms? Move to a free state...no registration needed...
 
firecadet613 said:
Where do you live where you have to register firearms? Move to a free state...no registration needed...
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I didn’t mean registered. I meant serialized.
And I have moved to a free state, thanks. CA to TN.
Also, the earlier argument I made supports exactly that point. Someone claimed that 40% of households have firearms. Without registration how could one actually determine that value?
 
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HawkX66 said:
Never said having a tac light was a bad idea. Shooting blindly in the dark is. No amount of training can fix stupid....
For example: The poor kid that died unnecessarily at a Mass gun range about 10 years ago. Some moron thought it would be ok to put a full auto in a little kid's hands. You can't fix stupid. Too bad that little boy had to pay for his father's stupidity.
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and I never said shooting blindly in the dark is a good idea. The point I was making was that with a tac light, you’re NOT shooting blindly in the dark. That’s the point of them.
 
Whatever you use be sure to train with it. I used to have a rail mounted light on my Glock 22 and it made it different. The feel, the heavier nose weight, the process of turning the light on, whether on continuous or flash, etc. Also keep in mind if you have a light of some kind you are now giving away your position. One training tactic is to give a quick blip of the light then step to one side. Most home intruders won't be armed so might not be as important for home safety but still something to keep in mind.
 
I know a cop from Madison, Ct . 30 years ago went into a beach house in response to an alarm. He shot a man at the end of a dark hall only to find it was his reflection in a mirror.
 
Mark.60 said:
I know a cop from Madison, Ct . 30 years ago went into a beach house in response to an alarm. He shot a man at the end of a dark hall only to find it was his reflection in a mirror.
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Now THAT is funny. I wonder how he explained that one. :eek:

Oh, and I'll bet the teasing around the department never ended.
 
MonacoMike said:
Free states don’t have that registration thingy…
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Most states don't require registration.

Only 8 do, and most of those are only for specific types of firearms.

Only two, Hawaii and DC, require registration of all firearms.
 
TheDudeAbides said:
That may or may not be entirely accurate. 60% of households THAT WE KNOW OF don't have guns. Not everyone admits to owning firearms. So that % may actually be lower.

One might argue that 40% of homes in the US have LEGAL/REGISTERED firearms, but saying one is a gun owner is a broad term. There are many instances where there are legal guns owned that aren't registered because they are grandfathered and were family hand-downs (didn't require registration) or might fall somewhere in the 80% firearm category, which is also legal but not registered. Then there is a significant number of households that illegally possess firearms, if you were to also consider them "gun owners".

I would argue that we can't actually put an accurate % of households that own firearms any more than we can put an accurate number of illegal immigrants in this country. There's no actual count and estimates can vary wildly depending on how you analyze the data (to make it reflect what you WANT it to conclude......)
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You never know who has guns. Many years ago I saw a rummage sale add that included 'lots of handguns'. It said no early sales but I showed up about 15 minutes before.

It was an old woman living alone. I asked where the guns were, they were already gone, someone beat me to it. She didn't even know how many but thought about a dozen. I asked what kind were they, she didn't know. I asked what she was asking for them and she said she took whatever was offered. There was one gun left that the first buyer didn't want. It was a copy of a little Browning .32 auto pocket gun made in Brazil. She sold it to me for $10, it had a broken firing pin, I made one out of a nail, gun works fine.

I asked her why she had all those guns. Her son in Milwaukee gave them to her to keep for him many, many years before. The son ended up in prison for awhile. After all those years she was tired of them in her house and he wasn't supposed to have any anyway because he is a felon, she was happy she got rid of them. I wonder what I missed out on.
 
Woody, sounds like something that happened to me when I was a cop. I took a call at an old couple's house for something and while there they asked me how to sell a handgun, then showed me a beautiful S&W Model 36. I told them how to advertise it and get a buyer to come to the house. They didn't want to mess with that and said the would like it to go to a cop, then asked me if I wanted to buy it.

I don't recall the $$$ but I paid them a fair price for it. They were happy, I was happy. Word got back to the chief (oh, did I mention we didn't like each other!) and he wanted to fire me. He contacted the couple and all they could talk about was how nice I was to give them way more than what they thought the gun was worth. He checked and found out I didn't "steal" the gun from them so there wasn't much he could do.

Nice couple. Chief sucked!
 
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